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<0> spaere: huh. say, could you do me a favor? could I pm you with a quick question?
<1> Anyone know any good games for Debian?
<2> sure?
<3> BigBuddha: torcs
<4> spaere: You might want to look up the large disk howto.
<5> Vasistha, talk in the channel mate, nobody likes pming
<5> this channel is busy enough as it is
<4> BigBuddha: Yeah: irc.
<6> I now have 1GB RAM! Whoohooo!
<7> lastnode, well spoken :)
<7> stoned, hellzjeah!
<1> tralala: What is that?
<1> k-god: What is that?
<7> lastnode, i have Jack, i'm good for the night :)
<4> BigBuddha: NFC.



<5> how can i tell make-kpkg to stay the hell away from my lilo!
<6> mngrif, good movie, a bit sad though
<7> stoned, fedex me you're leftover RAM
<5> i dont want kpkg hitting on my bootloader
<6> mngrif, no leftovers
<1> Btw, does anyone know why I can't configure wine? It says, winecfg not found.
<7> stoned, crummy. i'm stuck with 160MB in my 'work'station
<0> lastnode: believe it or not, I happen to have a compelling reason to pm someone whom I trust. I'm aware of the guidelines
<7> BigBuddha, "wineconf" IIRC is the command
<6> mngrif, ram is cheap
<4> BigBuddha: Install it, check the command.
<1> mngrif: Aight thanks. Let me check.
<8> lastnode: might look at /etc/kernel-img.conf
<4> stoned: but sheep are pleasing.
<5> cahoot, will check, thanks
<9> Is there a way to enable/disable preemptive kerneling @ runtime?
<0> lastnode: oh, one thing I do is set up a reserved area (well, this is in grub) ... but make-kpkg probably has an area that it edits, and if you put your preferred stuff outside of that area, it won't touch it
<10> how do you use aptitude to track recently installed packages?
<5> Vasistha, it's just stupid, because my lilo is on my gentoo part. i just want it to stop it
<7> BigBuddha, it used to be called "winesetuptk" but i don't know about nowadays, it's been a VERY long-while since i've used wine under debian
<4> kepht: Er, pardon? what are you trying to do?
<10> k-god: with debfoster, i can "roll back" recently installed stuff, how do i do that with aptitude?
<0> lastnode: dunno what to say, is it not practical to try to work around the problem as I suggested? Of course a real answer from someone who knows would be better!
<1> mngrif: Nothing is working...
<1> k-god: Any ideas?
<5> Vasistha, thanks anyway dude :)
<11> !debfoster
<12> rumour has it, debfoster is a package that detects "orphaned" dependencies and cleans them up. deprecated starting from Etch
<10> yeah
<10> using deborphan, i've had some applications break ..so i use debfoster mostly (and cautious w/ deborphan)
<10> not fun losing some obscure lib to a package
<1> Dammit, how do you configure Wine?!?!
<7> BigBuddha, go through aptitude and see what you get when searching for "wine", i'm positive that you're missing another program
<1> mngrif: Aight
<7> BigBuddha, if you can't find one, the conf is ~/.wine/config
<7> BigBuddha, it's rather well commented by default, IIRC
<4> kepht: aptitude logs its changes. /var/log/aptitude
<10> so i have to *look* at the logfile and manually remove selected items?
<4> kepht: Other than that, I'm not aware of any automated rollbacks. Debian's rollback capabilities are 1. weak and 2. not offially supported in any way. apt is an upgrade process, you can get yourself into states you can't readily roll back from.
<1> mngrif: You were right! I found them.
<10> right
<4> kepht: You can replace yourself with a very simple shell script.
<11> !dependencies
<12> hmm... dependencies is one of the killer benefits of Debian. Packages have or provide dependencies on other packages. The packaging tools (apt-get, aptitude, synaptic, etc.) automatically determine these dependencies and select additional packages for installation or removal if necessary, or may have to download deb files and do dpkg -i from time to time
<10> k-god: yeah, that's true
<11> kepht: You are welcome to try to script it.
<4> BigBuddha: Any ideas on what?
<1> k-god: Nvm, I figured out.
<4> BigBuddha: Sorry, scrollback ****s on this term.
<1> I figured it out*
<4> BigBuddha: NP
<1> k-god: Lol
<11> k-god: /lastlog BigBuddha but that will scroll likely as well.
<7> BigBuddha, aptitude = your best friend.
<4> kspath: Long story, OSX, rxvt under X11, macbook pro, pageup/pagedown seems to come and go.
<1> mngrif: I still use apt-get
<7> BigBuddha, you're missing out on a lot of useful things
<4> !tell BigBuddha about aptitude
<13> /join #jabber
<13> oops
<13> sorry



<11> that evil spacebar, curse of many
<11> parsonsd: umm, that is my hiding place.
<4> kspath: I kinda like the tacit irony in jabber needing an IRC channel.
<11> k-god: does gaim have a channel?
<11> k-god: I know what you meant though.
<4> kspath: /query chanserv list *gaim*
<13> k-god -- the channel message says go get a jabber client and then go join one of the jabber rooms
<4> kspath: gaim is either self-supporting or can't find its way out of a paper bag.
<13> on jabber.org
<4> parsonsd: Heh.
<1> Hmmm
<11> k-god: I just use naim or centericq or pork for non-irc things though I prefer to think there is little outside of irc
<14> how do I get realtime-lsm up ? I do modprobe realtime and get Fatality, error.
<1> Do they have a GUI Aptitude?
<13> sadly, tho i figured out how to join the jabber service from google's chat, i am trying to setup a jabberd client for my own local network and am having issues.
<8> dn4: built it using m-a?
<4> kspath: Thing for me is that 1. All Jabber clients ****. By definition.
<4> kspath: ... and group chat in anything but IRC is painful
<4> l.
<11> !tell BigBuddha about aptitude
<14> cahoot, I just did apt-get install realtime-lsm-source
<4> ... and policies other than focus-follows-mouse are spawn of the devil.
<8> dn4: didn't compile?
<13> if i thought it would be easier to setup a small irc server for the 4 client machines in my local network, i would
<4> l.
<4> ****. Twice now.
<3> BigBuddha: aptitude has a text interface when you run it without any options. There is also synaptic - it is a gui.
<14> cahoot, the package installed, but modprobe realtime-lsm did not get loaded, so perhaps compile error
<14> How do I do the module ***ist method?
<3> !m-a
<4> BigBuddha: aptitude == ncurses. Think top, mutt, etc. Very usable. Wonderfully accessible say, under ssh + screen.
<12> rumour has it, module-***istant is a tool helping to build additional (kernel) module packages and generate/install DEB packages with them, or the daddy, or apt-get install module-***istant kernel-headers-$(uname -r) build-essential
<13> k-god, i much like the focus-follows-mouse, but i grew up in a GEM world and the ST didn't get that for several years and it consumed a highly useful accessory slot
<4> parsonsd: GEM?
<4> ... and ST?
<15> thanks to everyone who helped me get the duel head going! ;) that was easier then I expected :)
<4> izzyb: s/deul/dual/
<13> k-god, atari ST and GEM was its window interface. stood for Graphical Environment Manager
<4> parsonsd: Ah.
<15> k-god, :) thanks
<13> k-god, ancient history, sadly. boohoo.
<15> parsonsd, I loved my atari ST
<4> parsonsd: What was ST? I remember Commodore, IIRC Atari picked them up.
<15> still have a couple systems kicking around here, but I doubt they work anymore
<15> k-god, they were around about the same time iirc
<13> k-god, ST was the 16bit atari platform that came out in late 84, shortly following Commodore's agiga
<13> amiga
<16> k-god: atari st was quite similar to amiga, same cpu, but 'cheaper' rest, but build in midi
<4> OK.
<17> can someone tell me why when i try to burn a cd with graveman i get the following error: " Can't open input file '(null)': No such file or directory"
<13> brownie17, how do you incant cdrecord?
<18> is there a program that will update a dyndns host via http? like from a daemon.. my linux box does not use ppp and accesses net via a router
<16> brownie17: check the bts
<13> brownie17, pardon me -- with graveman, and I really wouldn't know, now that I read a little better ...
<17> parsonsd, sorry?
<16> brownie17: graveman also looks like its abandoned upstream to me, why not use gnomebaker?
<17> parsonsd, well i'm not using the console version, i'm using gui
<11> !tell brownie17 about bts
<13> brownie17, yah, sorry, i realised i'd not read your q correctly
<17> parsonsd, it's cool
<14> be back
<14> wait how do you update grub?
<14> so that a certain kernel will show up
<8> dn4: edit menu.lst
<8> dn4: i e put in a new stanza for the new kernel
<11> dn4: /msg dpkg update-grub
<16> snadge: apt-cache search dyndns
<16> snadge: for http updates you can use wget, your dynamic dns provider should provide a link / script
<2> hi all, i've looked everywhere on the net and I've just forgotten how to upgrade my kernel? (i was hoping to do it through dselect and not need to compile - I'm running sarge and am on 2.4.18 and was hoping to move up to 2.6)
<16> snadge: your router is incapable of updating dyndns itself?
<2> I ***ume there's a dummy package, what is it though?


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