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<0> rublind: If it complains about not having any modules, you'll need to get ALSA modules for your kernel
<1> hesco: just explain the problem
<0> hesco: Be more specific, please.
<2> OfficeChair: didn't work. Shingouz: how would I get them? apt-get install alsa-modules ?
<3> augi01: try pinging one of the nameservers with the ip
<0> hesco: If you can't, a reinstall will work.
<0> rublind: Yes.
<0> rublind: apt-get install alsa-modules
<3> rublind: yes. or go from the 2.4 to a 2.6, the modules are in the main kernel tre
<0> rublind: Is this kernel 2.4.26?
<3> tree even
<4> apt question: How can I get a list of programs that will be upgraded if I give the upgrade command?
<2> OfficeChair, yeah, it's an older kernel.
<1> jadrifter: -s is dry run -- apt-get -s upgrade
<5> jadrifter: apt-get update && apt-get --dry-run dist-upgrade
<6> shingouz: I should probably make clear that eth0 is my Ethernet cable and eth1 (which seems to be non-existant) is my wireless card.
<7> how do you find out the installed version of a package?
<2> shingouz, officechair: couldn't find package alsa-modules
<5> multi_io: dpkg -l package
<0> rublind: I always upgrade to a 2.6ish kernel for ACPI support.
<5> multi_io: Or if you're not sure, dpkg -l | grep substring
<3> augi01: in that case, ifconfig -a first to see if the card is even seen
<2> OfficeChair, I wanted to update my kernel, but I don't know how, I'm a big n00b in terms of linux.
<5> multi_io: replace substring with an actual substring, of course
<8> after running an apt-get upgrade, it is now hanging on 0% Waiting for headers message.
<5> No Xorg 7.0 packages for Debian yet, I guess?
<0> rublind: You should start using apt-cache search
<2> OfficeChair, maybe...
<7> _keroppi_: thanks
<1> hesco: does apt-get update work?
<3> rublind: apt-get install linux-image-<whatever version you want>, reboot
<9> _keroppi_: wtf, I've just install 6.9.x the other day?
<0> rublind: Do an apt-cache search kernel-image
<8> I had edited sources.list to include a testing archive.
<0> (Or linux-image)
<2> OfficeChair, shingouz: okay, thank you.
<8> yes, update, works. upgrade hangs.
<4> WOO HOO! Thanks gnufan and _keroppi, the -s switch wasn't in my version of the man pages!
<0> 2.6.8 will probably work for you.
<5> jelly: There's no difference between the two other than xorg 7 is modular, instead of one big package. So you can update individual drivers
<10> shingouz i did apt-get install linux-image-2.6.15-1-k7, it worked fine, rebooted, im till on 2.6.12-1-386 ?:s
<5> jadrifter: Woah, get some new manpages
<2> OfficeChair, okay thank you.
<11> well i did a apt-get -t testing upgrade/dist-upgrade and from 1.7 i have now 2.5~ , my X dosen`t start... gdm... and I have KDE there
<5> jelly-ho: There's no difference between the two other than xorg 7 is modular, instead of one big package. So you can update individual drivers
<5> jelly-ho: It's needed for the new wicked xgl and compiz stuff
<11> is this NORMAL ?!
<2> OfficeChair: I don't see 2.6.8, I see 2.6.15
<4> _keroppi_ you're right. I'm bouncing between the servers and this one is still runnning FC1.
<0> For my Toshiba laptop, I have to use 2.6.15 from backports to get ACPI suspend to memory working.
<5> Does anyone have Xorg 7.0 on debian?
<0> rublind: 2.6.15 should be fine.
<2> Okay.
<0> rublind: Are you using Etch?
<1> hesco: have you trued undoing the sources.list change to see if that is definitely the culprit
<8> gnufan: yes, update works, upgrade does not. I edited sources.list to include a testing archive with the stable so I could upgrade amsn for my partner's grand daughter
<11> _keroppi_ you don`t wish xorg 7.0 y wish xorg 6.9
<3> augi01: ifdown eth0; ifup eth1; ping ip.add.re.ss; ping www.google.com
<6> Ok.
<0> rublind: On Sarge you have to use backports to get 2.6.15.
<8> I did undo that change. commented it out. reran update successfully, then upgrade hangs.
<2> OfficeChair: yeah, etch.
<5> nuambenzina: I don't understand what you're saying...
<10> OfficeChair any idea why my apt-get install linux-image-2.6.15-1-k7 worked (ie if i run it now it says its the latest version) but rebooting didnt give me the image option in grub, and uname -r gives 2.6.12-1-386
<0> rublind: You probably have Etch, so apt-get install <that kernel>
<8> gufan: that was for you
<2> OfficeChair, okay, will it also fix grub for me?
<12> !beer nuambenzina . :)
<0> arsen: Hmm, /boot/grub/menu.lst didn't get updated?
<13> cahoot: I also installed the one from sarge
<10> im guessing not
<0> arsen: Look at /boot/grub/menu.lst to see.
<8> gnufan: I had tried to apt-get -i testing install amsn, that is where it started.
<11> _keroppi_ i`m sayng that is the same thing. I wished to switch on xorg 7.0 on freeBSD machine but the guru guys told me that i don`t wish xorg 7.0, i wish 6.9 it`s the same thing
<5> nuambenzina: Do you mean "want" instead of "wish"?
<13> cahoot: unfortunately this blocks some other packages
<8> gnufan: In the past I had either a stable or a testing system. I had never tried to mix them before.
<0> arsen: Make sure you have the initrd image (if applicable) and the kernel in /boot
<11> my advice is to relax if xorg6.9 is working
<10> OfficeChair i still only have the option for 2.6.12-1-386
<1> hesco: ah so you installed stuff from testing, and removed it from sources.list ? Hmm wouldn't expect a hang, but it is probably safer to leave the sources.list entries in, and using pinning.
<5> nuambenzina: I actually need xorg 7.0 to get xgl working, though
<14> hi everybody
<0> rublind: It should.
<5> Does anyone have xgl working?
<11> yeah yeah
<2> Officechair: okay thank you. You seem to be overworked.
<15> _keroppi_: no. wait for 1 year for it to hit debian
<0> rublind: On Sarge when I went to 2.6.15 it fied grub's menu.lst. I always tweak it myself though. :)
<16> hi
<17> !xgl
<18> XGL is for debian already?
<5> deadcat: It should be on experimental soon
<19> can anyone PLEASE help me set up european fonts(polish especially) for locale en_US.UTF-8? (been all around the web already and am a tad crazed)
<2> OfficeChair: what kind of tweaks, anything I may find of interest, or useful?
<5> raf256[laptop]: No, not yet
<15> _keroppi_: i hope so too.
<8> gnufan: I had hoped to track the changes with future upgrades, not to have to update the pin configuration everytime and upgrade comes along.
<5> deadcat: gravityboy.livejournal.com
<15> _keroppi_: hows Xgl diff from X and xorg?
<15> _keroppi_: cool (=
<5> deadcat: Oh man, it's amazing
<18> deadcat: its *** kicking fast
<0> rublind: Nah, this is a break from dealing with pesky eBay buyers asking if my laptops support (insert Windows app here).
<18> deadcat: uses opengl to draw GUI
<15> _keroppi_: ya. seen the demo. i wet my pants (=
<8> gnufan: This is my first attempt to run a mixed system.
<0> rublind: vga=791 :)
<20> hey
<15> raf256[laptop]: wow. fast too? thats what i want hehe
<5> deadcat: My friend has it working here at work
<15> raf256[laptop]: its still gonna be xorg right?
<20> am installing debian 3.1
<2> OfficeChair: hah, well, that's better, what does vga=791 do? Prettier start up screen?
<0> rublind: Gives a nice 1024x768 console at 16-bit. :)
<5> deadcat: It's absolutely amazing, and faster than OS X stuff
<15> _keroppi_: steel his machine (=
<18> deadcat: ytap :) but it should be stable/usable probably in months
<20> but when it ccomes to partitionning it says no partitionnable media found
<3> augi01: your resolv.conf is screwed up for some reason
<1> hesco: I think beyond my ken to fix, other than perhaps going for the pinning config. You can pin indiviudal packages at a higher priority - that way you get the updates (well if the dependencies don't change).
<2> OfficeChair: oh, well, I don't really need that, kde works fine (as far as I can tell)
<10> OfficeChair if that is all in my /boot dir, shold i just add the image to menu.lst?
<20> can anyone help me out?
<16> my tvcard gets loaded with the wrong options
<6> shingouz: Do you know how I can fix it? Or anywhere I can look for advice?
<15> raf256[laptop]: nice nice. i cant believe it. i thought it would take at least 1-2 years till it get to debian.. unstable (=
<0> rublind: Also, you can get kernel sources and add a bootsplash patch to the kernel.
<3> augi01: the easiest way to fix it is to use an editor
<9> rublind: you'll get a free penguin on boot! :-)
<21> i'm running a mail server w/ the courier-imap packages and filtering mail w/ maildrop. i can access the folders i'm filtering mail into if i do mutt -f Maildir/.Backup or whatever, but if I try to access it from home using thunderbird or mutt, i get a 'Mailbox does not exist or must be subscribed to." error. I've tried hitting 's' to subscribe in mutt, but no luck... any ideas?
<1> hesco: not that I do any pinning.... I did some today to downgrade from "Sarge with Etch installer" to "Sarge"
<0> rublind: Err, it is while you are booting Linux and before XDM (login) starts.
<2> I want a penguin on boot... how!
<15> raf256[laptop]: so xgl is replacing xorg or X? i am kinna confuseds. since Xgl is x server, so is xorg but it still seems to require to modify xorg.conf
<9> rublind: and dog slow console, but who cares...
<2> OfficeChair: yeah, I figured.
<16> the hw detection uses saa7134 card=12 but i need saa7134 card=4
<0> arsen: Sure, but make sure you know what you are doing.
<6> shingouz: Any suggestions on what I should add to the resolv.conf in order to get my wireless working?
<18> deadcat: I think XGL is replacement for xorg
<1> rublind: there is a lot of documentation on howto do a GRUB splash screen
<0> arsen: Keep the entry to your old kernel in case something goes wrong.
<8> gnufan: sounds like a great plan, but my immediate issue is getting the upgrade to stop hanging so I can perform any apt-get function at all. Any ideas how to get past this immediaet issue?
<2> Alright, kernel is installed, time to reboot. Be back shortly (hopefully)
<10> yeah ;)
<21> raf256[laptop]: xgl is just a server
<12> _keroppi_, u can get xgl working on the developing version of ubuntu ( 6.04)
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