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<0> shingouz: the bios? seriously?
<1> tty: Yes, but what if he plans to sell his laptop?
<2> nkuttler: I remember to already have read it, without succes, read it again
<1> tull: I would back it up.
<0> tull: google 'linux install laptop model'
<3> nkuttler: like the compaq armadas or ibm ps/2
<1> shingouz: Right.
<3> !tell tull about laptop
<0> scary
<4> !tell AciD about laptop
<5> Yeah ill do a little search. thanks
<3> what is scary, nkuttler?
<1> If you plan to ever resell your laptop, you should make sure there is a way to get the *legal* version of Windows reinstalled.
<0> shingouz: that a bios would care about what is on a hd
<1> I upgrade my laptop every 3-6 months, so I like to be able to get Windows XP reinstalled when I am ready to sell it on eBay.
<1> nkuttler: Saves money.



<6> apt question: is there a way to get apt to just show you what would be upgraded without it trying to upgrade ie waiting for a Y/n? I'm scripting and looking for simple output.
<7> ...but question: is already something else...
<5> OfficeChair but do u need both the recovery partition and diagnostics for that?
<3> nkuttler: that is how it is sometimes done. at least compaq and ibm has used that in the past
<1> tull: YES>
<8> OfficeChair: no you dont
<9> OfficeChair: what does a piece of furniture know?
<1> tull: It is very common that the recovery CD uses a partition on your HDD to "restore" Windows.
<10> does xterm -en iso-8859-1 work for you?
<10> here it interprets "iso-8859-1" as a command and tries to execute it...
<9> OfficeChair: it's not very common
<1> blondie: I'm not just any piece of furniture, I'm a cloth-covered office chair.
<8> dells recovery cds repartition the drive
<1> petemc: Yes, Dell does.
<3> OfficeChair: with hand rests?
<11> OfficeChair, nkuttler: I reinstalled locales, hopefully now I wont get anymore errors.
<1> petemc: If you get all the CDs.
<9> at least, the sony, toshiba, hp and dell laptops I've fixed dont use any hidden partitions
<1> shingouz: Yes, plush hand rests.
<9> dell give you full windows CDs
<8> no they dont
<3> OfficeChair: oooooo
<6> My dell has 2 hidden partitions.
<8> its off topic here tho
<9> petemc: they do.
<6> Support recommended I keep them after I switched to Ubuntu.
<8> blondie: they dont in ireland/uk
<9> they do in the UK thanks
<1> The last two Compaqs I have been aquainted with used hidden recovery partitions.
<8> blondie: recovery != full copy of windows
<9> they claim to be recovery CDs but are full windows xp cds
<1> And Compaq wanted payment for the CDs that reinstall Windows entirely.
<9> at least the ones i have seen.
<5> jadrifter really? that means I will loose 5 gb
<1> petemc: Exactly.
<0> blondie: could you use them to install on a non-dell box?
<3> tull: how big is the hd on the laptop?
<11> I need help configuring the sound for my laptop, I just realized that I have none. >_<
<12> what exactly does apt-get install linux-image-2.6.15-1-k7 do ?:/ i swear you used to be able to upgrade kernel just by doing that, not sure what it did this time :\ still on 2.6.12-386
<6> tull: They didn't say I HAD to keep them. Just suggested it.
<1> If you have more than two "restore" CDs, they probably don't need a hidden partition to reinstall Windows.
<5> shingouz 100gb
<1> Note you may have more than three, as they also install useful things like AOL, etc.
<6> apt question: How can I get a list of programs that will be upgraded if I give the upgrade command?
<2> nkuttler: In the french section the help file are not clear. In the dutch section, the readme file are missing
<0> jadrifter: man apt-get, -u
<3> tull: and you complain about 5GB? you sure you definitely need the space? ;)
<13> Does anyone know why my wireless card is having issues? I know it's recognized and that the drivers are loaded, I can connect to different networks but when I start up a browser I get no internet..
<5> I was looking in the box and i dont even have the recovery cd
<6> nkuttler, that will still aske me if I want to install.
<6> I'm looking for a scriptable solution.
<3> augi01: does the thing resolve? your routing ok?
<1> tull: How many recovery CDs are there? Just one?
<9> nkuttler: yes.
<13> shingouz: How do I check that?
<0> jadrifter: man apt-get...
<14> tull: I had to order a set of CDs from Compaq. They only work for my model as well.
<5> OfficeChair none
<3> augi01: try pinging www.google.com for starters, report what it says
<11> Can someone help me set up my sound system?
<1> tull: Call Dell and get full restore CDs if you can.



<14> I am so glad I can wipe windows and install debian
<6> I've read the man pages nkuttler. Now I need a solution.
<0> jadrifter: you missed the solution when you read it
<1> tull: They may charge. But if it is less than $75 USD, it is worth it. Either that, or leave the diagnostics/recovery partition entact.
<5> OfficeChair i will try but i doubt it. i good a crappy media center edition as part of winxp home. i got the price down.
<6> nkuttler if you don't know you don't have to answer.
<5> OfficeChair I will just leave the partition. I dont use windows anyway.
<15> i wonder when will xgl get to debian.
<12> is ther a guide to upgrading kernel i can follow, i also wana build in like, nvidia graphics stuff to it? suggestions?:p ty
<1> tull: Okay. But if you plan to sell, being able to reinstall Windows is good.
<5> hence leaving the partition!
<0> jadrifter: haha, i do know. i just feel like you did not read the man page.
<1> tull: Okay.
<5> thanks guys. see you in an hour. ;)
<16> are there any laptops with 1280x1024 (1280x960) resolution?
<1> jelly-ho: Yes.
<6> nkuttler we can discuss your feelings later. Now I need tech info.
<1> jelly-ho: Newer laptops that aren't budget machines will have higher than 1024x768 resolution.
<16> OfficeChair: pretty please point me in the right direction
<0> jadrifter: *plonk*
<1> jelly-ho: IBM Thinkpads, Powerbooks, Toshibas are good
<9> my laptop has 1400x1050
<11> OfficeChair: do you know how to set up sound on an old IBM thinkpad?
<3> rublind: what thinkpad?
<11> shingouz: 570E
<1> rublind: I have done it on several Thinkpads
<3> rublind: crystal audio?
<11> OfficeChair, I don't think mine is working...
<1> rublind: You should be able to just apt-get install alsa-base and then do alsaconf
<11> shingouz: beats me, OfficeChair: okay.
<16> OfficeChair: nuh-uh, 1400x1050 has too little pixels for my short-sighted eyes. I know there's WXGA 1280x800, but I was specifically looking if there's a resolution between 1024x768 and 1400x1050.
<12> 1366
<16> 4:3 aspect ratio.
<3> rublind: what kernel you have there?
<1> jelly-ho: Look for a specific resolution then, Google around, check ebay.
<13> shingouz: Here's what happens: augi01@M275X:~$ ping -c 3 www.google.com
<13> ping: unknown host www.google.com
<13> augi01@M275X:~$
<1> rublind: Make sure you have the ALSA modules for your specific kernel.
<11> shingouz: 2.4 I think
<3> augi01: your resolv.conf is screwed
<13> Alright, how do I fix that?
<3> rublind: uname -a tells you the version
<12> anyone point or quickly guide me to howto upgrade kernel?:x deb used to make it easy to just apt-get install kernel-image-blah
<11> OfficeChair: how would I check that?
<3> augi01: check /etc/resolv.conf
<1> rublind: If you installed a kernel (Linux) image (package), you probably already have the ALSA modules.
<17> hi maybe is someone here who talkin in polish ?
<18> google "comile kernel the debian way"
<3> !pl
<19> i heard pl is sometimes referred to as "packet loss", or polska -> #debian.pl
<11> shingouz: 2.4.27-2-686
<17> i am lookin little help in patch debian :)
<11> OfficeChair: okay, then how would I go about fixing this ?
<3> rublind: first install the alsa-modules for that specific kernel with apt-get
<1> rublind: rublind Did you apt-get install alsa-base yet?
<20> does anyone know how to disable encryption in ssh beyond the authentication process?
<11> OfficeChair: oh, hah, no. My bad.
<13> shingouz: Should I PM you my resolv.conf?
<3> rublind: either install the alsa modules and alsa-base or go to a 2.6 and just get the alsa-base
<3> augi01: no
<13> Paste it here then?
<3> augi01: in #flood
<11> OfficeChair, shingouz: I apt-got alsa-base
<21> Morning all.
<13> Ok.
<1> rublind: When I installed kernel (Linux) image 2.6.15 from backports via apt-get, the ALSA modules were included.
<1> rublind: Okay, now try alsaconf
<22> in debian, is there any special trick to enable hebrew input in scim or the m17n library?
<3> rublind: you need the alsa modules too. for a 2.4 they are a separate package, for 2.6 they are in the main kernel tree
<23> pan in unstable -- doesn't show me any articles as of most recent update? Anyone else have this, fixed this.
<21> I broke apt-get. Can anyone here help me with that, please?
<1> rublind: If it complains about not having any modules, you'll need to get ALSA modules for your kernel


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