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<0> does debian use differenet repo's based on arch?
<1> yes
<0> im getting an itanium machine next week....
<1> flash git
<2> m1ke_l: no, same repository, it'll just be looking for the ia64 packages instead of the i386 ones
<0> how does it know which arch to use then.
<0> ?
<2> m1ke_l: you have to download the correct installer CD image, but after that it just knows
<3> When booting debian-installtion image (loadlin vmlinuz root= ??) I get an error message stating I have to vfs:cannot open root device "hda1" please append a correct "root=" boot option.
<4> PeterS I have the nerim net...but etch...is it only in sid perhaps. Thanks Seven_Six_Two but I prefer to apt-get unless there is no other way
<0> peterS: thanks.
<2> mohkohn: browsing just now through ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/pool/main/m/mplayer/, I see there are -686 packages for one version of mplayer but not for other versions. I don't know what's up with that.
<2> mohkohn: anyway, it doesn't matter all that much. the -586 package may use a bit more CPU, but you have plenty of CPU, as long as you're not trying to watch a movie and play a FPS game at the same time
<4> thanks peterS
<4> Got to crash. TTFN
<5> i've put some drive details in fstab - to mount it... how do i activate it?



<6> Andy298: mount -a
<7> Hey. I'm doing an upgrade of packages on testing and one of the recent ones was xlibmesa-gl. Now OpenGL on X doesn't work properly. glxinfo|grep direct says no, when it used to say yes. I have the ATI Rage 128 card. Everything used to work. What should I do?
<8> anyone knows how to take a live CD ISO and stick it onto an external USB drive instead? (for booting from)
<9> dabreegster, check your X log
<2> Skaag: you can't do that, in general. the provider of the live CD may have made a procedure available.
<7> Eulex: Alright, but I think I need to upgrade libgl1-mesa-dri and related
<8> peters: So boot from the livecd, then install it onto that drive..?
<2> Skaag: Debian doesn't have a live CD, so I don't know what live CD you are talking about. the procedure would vary between different ones
<8> ok thanks
<8> peterS: http://mklivecd.sourceforge.net/
<10> knoppix is like debian live
<8> Debian Live CD
<8> anyway never mind
<8> i'll play around with the stuff, it's fun anyway ;)
<2> Seven_Six_Two: it's also like something other than debian live. and it certainly isn't the only live CD which uses debian as a base
<7> Where are the X.org logs located? I only see old Xfree86 logs in /var/log
<10> no, but highly popular and well documented
<2> Skaag: yeah, the boot procedure for a CD, or for a USB disk, are quite different. so your live CD provider would have to explicitly support booting from a disk, or I doubt you can get it to work
<8> yes I understand
<9> dabreegster, /var/log/Xorg.0.log
<8> i'll create an ext2 partition on that usb drive and make it bootable, then debootstrap it, and see what happens... ;-)
<7> Eulex: Hmm, maybe I don't have xorg. Odd, I could've sworn that I did.
<2> Skaag: *nod*
<10> http://rz-obrian.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de/knoppix-usb/
<8> thanks Seven_Six_Two
<9> dabreegster, if you're running stable you won't have xorg if you don't get backports for it.
<8> that looks nice
<7> Eulex: Nah, I'm on etch
<9> dabreegster, hrm. then you haven't run a complete dist-upgrade. apt-cache policy xserver-xorg, btw?
<11> hey
<11> what package has unrar?
<7> Eulex: I've never done a dist-upgrade. Hangon.
<12> !tell BLAFD about search
<7> Eulex: No, it's not installed. Odd.
<13> blafd - unrar
<13> :)
<10> BLAFD: unrar-nonfree
<7> Eulex: I presume xfree86-common being upgraded and xserver-xfree86 being removed is correct.
<2> BLAFD: there are two packages, 'unrar' and 'unrar-free' - the former is in the non-free section but works a lot better than unrar-free does
<10> or something like that
<9> dabreegster, it is
<7> Eulex: OK, thanks
<9> dabreegster, yw :)
<11> hn
<11> peters doign apt-get install unrar, sais its obsolete
<11> unrar-free isnt a know package
<2> BLAFD: the package names may have changed between stable and unstable. I suggest you dig around on pdo.debian.net to confirm this
<9> !non-free
<14> i heard non-free is always "evil". It has its place in the world, but most Debianistas would rather not use it. Any software not meeting this definition: http://www.debian.org/social_contract#guidelines is in there or contrib, or #debian-nonfree and http://nonfree.alioth.debian.org/, or if you MUST, add 'contrib non-free' to the end of a sources.list line, or http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/categories.html
<9> BLAFD, unrar-free is only in unstable.
<12> !info rar sarge
<14> rar: (Archiver for .rar files), section non-free/utils, is optional. Version: 3.30-2 (sarge), Packaged size: 239 kB, Installed size: 419 kB
<2> !find unrar sarge
<14> unrar: (Unarchiver for .rar files (non-free version)), section non-free/utils, is optional. Version: 1:3.5.2-0.1 (sarge), Packaged size: 85 kB, Installed size: 216 kB
<12> well, 'rar e foo.rar' would do the same...
<15> how do I know if if have testing or unstable?
<12> What does 'dpkg -l libc6 | tail -1 && apt-cache policy libc6 | grep 500' say?
<16> I have the following situation: an AMD64 system ready for an OS with no video at all (I thought I had a spare PCI video card laying around for installation, it's missing). It's possible that the nforce4 gigabit eth ship supports PXE, but I don't know if the AMD64 port can be installed that way ATM. A livecd is also a possibility, but I'd really like to be able to use the installer. Any ideas?
<16> s/ship/chip/
<12> Sonny: sources.list would tell you and/or libc6
<2> bancus: I'm not sure, but I *thought* I heard that the nforce4 ethernet chip was not yet supported



<15> streuner, in my sources I know that it's pointing to "testing" tell be about the other way
<2> bancus: anyway I doubt you can install without video, unless your BIOS happens to support a serial console. most PC-cl*** machines don't.
<17> :'(
<17> ****ed TAB buttom
<16> peterS: I know earlier nforce ethernets had issues, but I thought nforce4 was usable.
<16> peterS: :/
<17> sonny, good rootkit
<16> So I couldn't, for instance, boot with a livecd that supports ssh and ssh in?
<18> &msg dpkg ati
<15> acktvst, excuse me?
<17> nothing
<2> bancus: well, I should amend that, it may be possible to get the installer up and running by typing blind, and use a serial console for the installer itself
<2> bancus: as for sshing in, the debian installer doesn't currently support that. you may be able to do *something* with a live CD, but what the procedure would be is more than I can say
<5> how do i change where root mail is sent to?
<2> Andy298: edit /etc/aliases then run 'newaliases'
<19> the debian install cd should include a little more tools
<2> magnus: such as what?
<19> I had great troubles editing a textfile
<19> needed to alter the pcmcia config file to get my network card to work
<20> hi!!!
<12> nano is great
<19> i had to pipe stuff here and there
<12> you prolly never used 'ae' ;-)
<2> magnus: it comes with nano, which is quite functional, even if we don't like it too much
<19> vi etc is nightmare :)
<19> if you enter it you are dead and must reboot ;)
<21> heh
<21> or type [Esc] :q
<22> hello
<21> speaking of piping stuff..
<22> how can I add a default gateway ?
<19> ah ok, must check out nano, but if thats included and adequate for editing files, then I guess I cant think of any more tools to be included
<22> i've used route but i must add manually at every boot
<21> magnus: try mped
<12> wantoch: /msg dpkg interfaces
<23> !beer nvz
<24> anybody got a convert to udev howto?
<11> gr
<25> i'm having trouble getting a new installation of debian to resolve DNS
<2> wantoch: I suggest adding a line to /etc/network/interfaces, under the correct interface name, 'up route ....'
<21> I already got beer
<11> i put unstable in my sources
<19> nvz: thanks for the tip!
<12> wantoch: and read /usr/share/doc/ifupdown/examples/
<2> wantoch: the 'up' word means 'execute this when the interface has come up'
<11> but it complains it needs libc6 >= 2.3.5
<11> but the one im using is 2.3.2
<6> magnus: vi is actually fairly simple to do most basic tasks in... you should really learn how to open a file, edit it, and save it in both vi and emacs.
<2> BLAFD: we don't suggest using packages from unstable if your system is based on stable. too much trouble.
<11> contrib then?
<2> BLAFD: 'rar' and 'unrar' both live in non-free, on debian stable
<26> hi. those of you using xfce, which displa manager do you use?
<2> BLAFD: you just have to add ' non-free' to the stable line that ends in 'main', in your sources.list
<11> ah
<21> ringo999: what does it matter?
<27> dondelelcaro: why in emacs?
<27> dondelelcaro: I was forced to use xemacs once, for a cl***. absolutely hated it.
<26> nvz: it doesnt really, im just wondering which one is good...
<21> ringo999: your choices are pretty much KDM, GDM, XDM, WDM.. pcik one
<21> ringo999: tey are all good
<28> Hello all
<28> I have a routing question
<2> dannyp: it's still useful to know how to do basic editing in it, in case you're faced with a system where vi isn't usable. (not that this is common.)
<27> peterS: I don't recall ever being on a machine that had emacs but not vi
<19> dondelelcaro: I only know emacs and programs that work like it, such as jed
<26> nvz: mmm...and which one would be standard with xfce? just plain xdm?
<19> i use jed for everything :)
<28> I set ipforward in /network options to yes
<19> (coding, configuring, etc)
<2> magnus: well, I'm not on the debian-installer team, but I doubt they are planning to add emacs to the initial ramdisk
<28> but when I reboot the box this entry takes no effect
<27> peterS: and when I don't have vi, ed is usually available, which I've generally found to be sufficient for getting vi back
<20>


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