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<0> so if i apt-file *.jpg?
<1> dli: firefox 1.5 won't go into stable(sarge) until the next version of stable(etch) is out.
<0> oh
<2> I think... you could always apt-file search firefox to find out
<1> !tell dli about stable
<2> _unstable++
<1> !tell dli about backports
<0> !tell me about apt-file
<0> oooooooh
<0> noce
<2> heheh
<3> AceSmythe: Searching for .jpg, I get 7066 files...
<4> what package does gtk-config come in?
<5> !tell akira -about search
<6> akira: /msg dpkg search
<7> i did an apt-get source <package>; now what do i do? i want to modify the source a bit and then compile.



<3> ejofee: Modify, and then dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot -us -uc (heh)
<7> sanxiyn: where do i find it (so that i could modify)
<3> ejofee: Eh, you did apt-get source <package> ?
<3> There should be a directory named <package>-<version> then.
<7> sanxiyn: and what was the "heh" for?
<7> sanxiyn: in var?
<0> hahah san
<0> it's better than locate then
<0> or search/find/etc...
<3> AceSmythe: In that it can search contents of not-yet-installed package, yes.
<0> welp, my new laptop will be here next weekend
<3> ejofee: heh was for... heh.
<7> sanxiyn: could you tell me the full path?
<8> is it good to do apt-get install every day? I did ... and my system changed.... many programs dissapear etc
<8> I mean apt-get install upgrade
<8> corrected: is it good to do apt-get install upgrade every day? I did ... and my system changed.... many programs dissapear etc
<9> Sonny: Depends on what you're trying to do. If your goal is to have a usable system, probably not.
<10> does debian have a quick command to setup ipforwarding?
<11> you mean apt-get upgrade
<8> dannyp: tell me more about that? why not?
<5> TurboBee: apt-get install ipmasq;
<7> Sonny: upgrade selectively
<9> I largely subscribe to the "if it ain't broke" philosophy, with the *very important* exception of security fixes
<7> Sonny: use synaptic.
<10> thanks
<12> are there any tricks to installing to an external?
<1> Anyone know off the top of their head, if I install wifi-radar from ubuntu will it work...or no?
<6> TurboBee: that's a feature of Linux kernel, you can enable it via /etc/network/options or via sysctl
<8> ejofee: how do I do that?
<10> i like dondelelcaro's idea
<10> :)
<9> dondelelcaro's idea is not set up IP forwarding
<10> oh
<9> s/is/does/
<9> it sets up NAT
<9> if that's what you need...
<10> i wanted masquerading.... i just forgot the name
<5> it can do either, actually...
<6> yeah it can enable forwarding too, but you don't really need it for that
<12> has anyone tried installing to an external usb drive before?
<9> ook, I stand corrected
<7> Sonny: apt-get install synaptic
<5> it's just a generic framework which can do either, and happens to come with rules by default which do masquerading...
<7> Sonny: then open synaptic
<7> Sonny: you'll figure it out
<10> i now just have to wait for my windows machine to get up and running to see if it works well
<10> wasnt too much configuring involved
<7> Sonny: you should do that from root, obviously
<10> i guess it knows a lot on its own
<3> dondelelcaro: I thought ipmasq is there only to support ipchains/iptables syntax difference...?
<10> im not used to the simplicity of debian, i did everything by hand with slackware
<8> ejoffe: I use sypantic, but theres just an option to mark the whole updates
<5> sanxiyn: nope...
<9> TurboBee: so much of it is what you're used to. Personally, apt-get install ipmasq wouldn't have occured to me in a million years
<9> I administer a couple of debian boxes, and at times I've ran debian from home, but my primary OS at home has been FreeBSD since 1999. Some tasks are really easy in one and a PITA in the other, and the other way around
<8> ejoffe: How do I decide what should I upgrade or what no?
<10> lol
<10> ive been on a kick with this apt-get ****
<10> everthing i want to do has an apt-get way
<10> im jsut a little sore though, I have to put linux on my slower computer because my faster computer needs to be available for games
<10> yet



<10> linux stil lruns smoking fast on this computer
<10> whereas windows would not
<13> Anyone know what syntax i can read up on to launch an application onto a specific monitor when using xinerama and multiple monitors?
<14> _max_: it just uses the DISPLAY environment var. so something like DISPLAY=:0.1 foo
<5> Agrajag-: that's when you're not using xinerama...
<14> oh whoops read the question wrong
<5> _max_: you're looking for the --geometry option...
<13> hmm... so DISPLAY=:0.1 is when i have different "Screen" values ?
<5> _max_: nah, it's when you're running multihead without xinerama
<13> dondelelcaro where would i use --geo ? when i launch the program?
<13> okey.
<5> _max_: right
<13> so rdesktop --geometry 0 0 -u username -p p***word -n name ip.ip.ip.ip f.ex ?
<5> _max_: --geometry +0+0; ***uming rdesktop takes --geometry like it should.
<13> thanks.
<1> dondelelcaro: network-manager is on the ftp master's new list...how can I get the deb now before he adds it to experimental?
<5> _unstable: you can't.
<5> _unstable: packages which are in NEW are unavailable due to export restrictions.
<1> dondelelcaro: It's been on the new list for a couple weeks. What has to happen before it is added...anything I can do?
<5> _unstable: the ftpmasters have to check it out and make sure that it's ok to be added to Debian.
<1> dondelelcaro: dpkg didn't tell me anything about "export restrictions" what is that?
<5> _unstable: as in the fact that we cannot export cryptographic software from the US without complying with specific regulations.
<5> _unstable: to comply, we have to notify the BSA before we allow software to be exported; this is why you can't download software from NEW.
<1> I didn't know that, damn the man
<1> dondelelcaro: But what about upstream..can't people just get it from sourceforge?
<5> _unstable: sure, they can.
<1> And if they made sourceforge wait, why do they make you wait if one party already did?
<5> _unstable: they may not make sourceforge wait.
<7> i changed the contents of some of the source files. how do i now compile it as a deb?
<5> ejofee: fakeroot debian/rules binary;
<5> ejofee: the NM guide will also help yuou
<7> dondelelcaro: what's the nm guide?
<5> !tell ejofee -about nm guide
<1> dondelelcaro: Does debian have more info on the regulations they have to follow, and paperwork sent to the BSA?
<5> !tell _unstable about crypto in main
<15> What would be the easiest way to go about setting up a cronjob to get a file from an ftp server? The file name is named from a date, so it will shift every time.
<6> wotnarg: the same as with any other cron job
<15> well, I mean how is it easiest to the do ftp part
<15> I can do the cronjob just fine :p
<16> wotnarg: Use wget
<17> hi is there anyone have experience with cross compiling using toolchain
<17> or how can I add additional options to configuration process
<15> ah, I forgot wget could use ftp. That should do it. Thanks.
<17> when building debian package
<6> plain ftp supports netrc, then there's lftpget and so on
<18> For a machine that primaraly will play dvd's/music/video and games etc.... and my RAM is 512mb DDR - how big would you say the swap space needs to be ? ??/
<5> phu: get the package, then change the debian/rules file to do what you want it to do, then fakeroot debian/rules binary
<5> !tell phu -about nm guide
<16> Gnesh: ABout a gig
<18> Well I have it at a gig at the moment
<18> I remember there being a rule of double your ram - that still the case?>
<5> Gnesh: that's a basic rule of thumb
<18> k
<18> anyone here back that up?
<19> has anybody here used GmailFS? Whats it like I have never had time to try it myself
<5> Gnesh: since generally you have way more disk than that, it's fine... (although, in most cases, it's probably more than you actually need)
<7> dondelelcaro: i think it shouldn't be that complicated. i don't want to debianize a file, but only to compile an already debianized source package. i did an apt-get source, then modified some files, then rearchived as a tar.bz2, now i think a dpkg one-liner should be enough. could you please help me?
<7> s/file/package/
<5> ejofee: you modify the files, then you fakeroot debian/rules binary;
<5> ejofee: that's the command. I told you about the nm guide, because it has the rest of the information surrouding what exactly that is doing.
<7> dondelelcaro: you mean this is the exact syntax and it all?
<5> ejofee: yes.
<7> dondelelcaro: why, thanks!
<5> ejofee: ***uming you've installed the build-deps, fakeroot, and build-essential, of course.
<20> Gnesh: you'll probably never use that much swap under normal conditions, if you really need that extra half gig of disk space you could put same size of swap and RAM.
<7> dondelelcaro: i guess "binary" is actually "<binary>" and it stands for the final binary package, right? (it should include name and exact version)
<12> I'm currently installing debian, what's a good apt-get mirror?
<5> ejofee: no.
<5> ejofee: that's the exact command.
<5> Ashex: one that is close to you and fast. /msg dpkg mirrors
<3> ejofee: It is a makefile target.
<17> the rules file configuration entry is different from the standard one
<17> $(configure_dependencies)
<17> $(configure_stamp): control $(unpack_stamp) $(patch_stamp)


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