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<0> dondelelcaro: When I do "apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade" for the last week, it says "the following packages have been kept back: locales"
<1> dondelelcaro: dpkg just told me I can't do that.
<2> dagbrown: see http://people.debian.org/~osamu/downgrade.html
<2> _unstable: if the package is being kept back, it means that it can't be installed because it depends on some package which is not yet available. It's not really a big dela.
<1> Actually: couldn't I use the source build thingy to roll my own? The point of this exercise actually being to have a libreadline5-dev that works.
<2> dagbrown: well, if you didn't care that the packages which you've got installed won't have security updates, you can get the libncurses5-dev from unstable and just install it.
<2> dagbrown: but if it were my server, I wouldn't run it like that.
<1> dondelelcaro: Not to worry, it's only a little dev server.
<1> It never sees the light of the Internet.
<3> dagbrown: Set stable to priority over 1000 and upgrade.
<4> wtf? a duo core and single core processor of the same ghz is an $80 difference?
<1> sanxiyn: What? how do I do that?
<4> is there ANY difference?
<5> AceSmythe: that's right.
<3> dagbrown: It's on the link dondelelcaro posted...
<3> dagbrown: Basically, man apt_preferences
<5> AceSmythe: yes, one has two cores, the other is a uniprocessor
<0> dondelelcaro: o ok, I was checking the bts and I couldn't figure it out..that sums up what I wanted to know. Thanks for squashing my curiousity dondelelcaro.
<5> AceSmythe: think "SMP in one CPU"
<4> Gnea: will there be a difference?
<5> AceSmythe: if you set things up right
<1> sanxiyn: Aha, okay
<6> it sounds like you don'tneed duo core version :P
<4> that ***umes competence on my part :p
<4> what all would be different in the setup?
<3> dagbrown: APT doesn't downgrade until priority exceeds 1000.
<5> different?
<3> (Default release is 500.)
<4> you said one would need to set it up right
<5> an OS that sees and uses both cores, for starters
<4> oooh
<4> sarge debian?
<7> i have a question about psybnc and the virtual host, if i set psybnc on my Linux, and use a freehost from dyndns.org like test.dyndns.org can i get it to have on irc: test@test.dyndns.org
<7> ?
<5> naw, any 2.6 SMP kernel will do it
<8> hi
<5> but yeah, sarge will do it
<4> oh
<5> install sarge with a 2.6 kernel and then get a 2.6 smp image
<4> is there a 2.6 kernal that isnt SMP?
<4> asked and answered
<8> anyone knows if its there any kids educational software for linux ?
<5> heh
<9> nickserv identify ice_1963
<4> will there be a signifigant performance jump?
<5> ice_1963: cool!
<5> LMAO!!
<10> javiolo: debian-edu
<3> javiolo: See also http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-jr/
<5> that was so randomly awesome
<3> Hm, -edu is for education, -jr is for kids.
<10> javiolo: debian-edu is a sub-project of debian; and installs plenty of educational s/w
<4> Gnea: would there really be a justification for that $80?
<4> or will i not even notice?
<11> So I tried creating an equivs package for libqt3c102-mt, but it conflicts witih libqt3-mt. How do I get around that (Skype wants libqt3c102-mt)?
<8> ok Im looking for software to be used by 6 years old
<5> AceSmythe: what cpu is it and where are you looking?
<4> dell
<10> javiolo: you can also google for skolelinux - it is a distro - and it formats hard disks without your permission, though.
<4> intel duo core
<12> AceSmythe, this isnt the place for cpu 101, but yes, if you multitask you'll notice a difference
<4> .66ghz
<4> er
<5> url?
<4> 1.66
<4> emme see...
<13> Connection failed with error NT_STATUS_ACCESS_DENIED --- this from /var/log/cups/error_log. I cant print a test-page. I'm trying to setup cups to use a printer attached to an xp computer
<4> it's on the customizable options for the dell e1705
<1> dondelelcaro, sanxiyn: Thank you for the pointers! Off to administer a beatdown now.
<4> i dont think the customizations i have set are linkabler
<5> good point
<4> http://www1.us.dell.com/content/products/productdetails.aspx/entnb_e1705?c=us&cs=19&l=en&s=dhs
<8> thanks for the links!
<13> smbclient sees the computer and the printer and the shares
<4> actually: http://www1.us.dell.com/content/products/features.aspx/entnb_e1705?c=us&cs=19&l=en&s=dhs
<13> another debian box is setup and works to print to that printer
<13> the config files seem to be the same
<14> is there a debian channel for newbies?
<4> it's the t1300 and t2300
<15> what is the replacement for base-config on a chroot install of sid?
<2> wonderline: not really, no.
<2> meff: there isn't one... just use an editor...
<14> k thanks, i'll just watch and learn.
<12> wonderline, if you have a question just ask. you wont (generally) get picked on for being a newbie :)
<4> Gnea: see what i mena?
<13> this channel helped me out a lot when i was a newbie some years ago
<4> i know what i'm doing generally, but i dont know hardware NEARLY as well as i know software
<14> please sugest what documentation you may have read as a newbie that helped set up printers, sound, and usb storage devices.
<5> AceSmythe: hopefully you're not going with the stock hard drive...
<4> i think i'm opting for the 80gb
<4> yup
<4> why?
<5> 5400rpms? SLOW
<4> heh
<10> wonderline: sysadmin guide
<5> never settle for less than 7200rpms, unless you're without a clue and have no idea what you're doing.
<14> thanks paivakil
<5> AceSmythe: there's a big performance difference
<2> 5400 is fine if you know what you're doing, and why you're getting a 5400 rpm drive...
<4> ... or cant spend another 130$?
<4> :p
<2> Gnea: the performance difference depends on exactly what you're doing to the drive
<16> Is there a way to force the removal of a package which is depended on?
<2> simplex: no.
<2> simplex: doing that is never what you actually want to do. What are you actually trying to do?
<5> AceSmythe: are you getting a dell for the support, or because the system is pre-built?
<1> dondelelcaro: Actually, doing that would have come in real handy with my readline problem.
<4> Gnea: it's among the only laptops I can get that use nvidia and are under $1500 with a dvd burner
<4> the other option was alienware
<4> Gnea: do you have an alternate suggestion?
<5> i might
<1> Why do you need nvidia?
<16> dondelelcaro: Well, when I'm installing x11proto-render-dev, it's trying to overwrite a file that was put there by render-dev. So I want to force the removal of render-dev so I can replace it with this experimental package.
<4> shoot ^c^
<9> Hi if i have the netinstallation cd
<2> simplex: ugh.
<4> dagbrown: i like nvidia's driver support, and i hate ATI
<9> have i to boot to be able to install it or can i mount the image with
<16> dondelelcaro: And of course if it breaks it, I'll just reinstall it.
<9> deamon tools?
<2> simplex: if you have to ask what to do in that situtaion, you really should *not* be using experimental.
<1> AceSmythe: Ah, the only two video card vendors in the world :P
<4> Gnea: what's on your mind?
<10> ice_1963: boot from the cd
<6> ice_1963: you need to boot it so it will run with Linux kernel
<16> dondelelcaro: What better way to learn?
<9> ****
<9> i dont have a free cd :(
<2> simplex: read documentation. like man dpkg; and man apt.conf; and learn about the --force-overwrite option.
<17> I tried to upgrade a .deb package but the postinstall script failed, however I ran it manually and it seems to be working, but dpkg still thinks the package needs to be configured, but it just hangs. Is there a way to mark that package is already configured?
<6> ipso: yes
<13> is smbp***wd relevent to me when i'm printing to a windows print server?
<10> ipso: do apt-get -f install
<4> dag: i dont want to use an intel or SIS chip
<2> ipso: the configuration scripts are idempotent. However, by manually running it, you may not have actually configured it properly, unless you ran it with the right options.
<4> or any other <insert generic name here> card
<17> Paivakil: I try... it hangs on configuring a package...
<16> dondelelcaro: I actually had read the manual for dpkg and apt-get right before this. it's not in dpkg's man page. (the force-overwrite) option that is.
<10> ipso: which package? sid? sarge? etch?
<17> Paivakil: Postgresql 8.1.3, unstable.
<6> simplex: actually it is
<2> simplex: yes, it is... "overwrite: Overwrite one package#s file with another's file."
<4> Gnea: you sounded like you had important information for me
<17> Paivakil: When I strace the configure process, its sitting there at a "read()" call
<16> dondelelcaro: Oh sorry, I was just doing a search for "force" through the manpage.
<17> Paivakil: However it is installed, and running, and working so far just fine.
<4> is etch the new stable?
<2> AceSmythe: no, it's testing.
<4> i thought sarge was
<4> or did it all bump up
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