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<0> abrotman: Lesbian GNU/Linux had something like that
<1> what's the difference between /dev/psaux and /dev/input/mice ?
<2> avar: i was joking and don't really want to know
<3> litage: the former is specific to ps2 devices, the latter is for all input devices.
<4> dpkg, ati
<5> Read http://www.linuks.mine.nu/debian-faq-wiki/UseAti
<6> does debian use LD_LIBRARY_PATH? (set | grep LD_LIBRARY_PATH return snothing)
<3> tktktk: man ld.so
<6> dondelelcaro, thanks
<7> since a recent dist-upgrade my machine has exhibited very unstable tendencies. i cant play 3d games for more than a few minutes without them crashing. half the time when they crash they also take kicker/kwin/kvirc/kded/etc with them, and occasionally the X server restarts. ive upgraded my video card drivers twice now, 8174->8178->8178-2, to no avail. help?
<4> any person knows about the ATI "flavio" way ?
<8> sparr: This is with a proprietary video driver?
<0> sparr: what driver are you using?
<7> gravity: yes. with the oss nv driver i have only one odd behavior, changing virtual terminals (from X to console) takes 3-4 seconds.
<7> avar: nvidia
<0> sparr: try using nv



<9> ok which one of you put this together http://www.lesbian.mine.nu/
<7> avar: i have
<2> konfuzed: someone here .. but i won't say who :)
<0> well, if the problem goes away then it's an issue with nvidia
<9> you guys are nutz
<9> oh wait
<3> no, we're certified insane. We don't use l33t sp34k here.
<7> avar: i agree, but ive gotten no help trying to downgrade my drivers so im trying for any other method
<0> konfuzed: the autopr0n downloader no longer works
<0> autopr0n is down for quite some time now
<3> it's not like it's all that difficult to operate a sed script to wget...
<4> Fglrx + 6.9 ETCH please ?
<3> Thanatermesis: you'll have to ask a slightly more complete question...
<4> dondelelcaro, yes... but i have tried this way for better read me ;)
<10> Hmm, bah, I keep getting W: GPG error: ftp://ftp.nerim.net sarge Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 07DC563D1F41B907 .. I've done the gpg --keyserver subkeys.pgp.net --recv-keys 2D230C5F ; gpg --export 084750FC01A6D388A643D869010908312D230C5F | apt-key add - .. but same error. Any ideas?
<2> does marillat have a key for sarge?
<3> !apt-key 07DC563D1F41B90
<5> gpg --keyserver subkeys.pgp.net --recv-keys 07DC563D1F41B90 ; gpg --export 07DC563D1F41B90 | sudo apt-key add -;
<4> dondelelcaro, im trying to compile the fglrx driver for this upgrade of xorg (6.9), using the flavio's way (very good), but when i try to build the package it try's to download the file, and the file (curiously called *6.9*) don't exists... and i only found for versions 6.8 of xorg for download
<10> gpg: "07DC563D1F41B90" not a key ID: skipping
<3> foo: you should of course check that 07DC563D1F41B90 is actually a valid key for nerim to actually have.
<10> dondelelcaro: hmm. How do I check that?
<3> foo: try D1F41B90; you should ideally have a trust path to that key.
<10> dondelelcaro: Trust path? Hmm.
<10> gpgkeys: key D1F41B90 not found on keyserver
<3> foo: well, then that key doesn't exist on the server; you'll have to find it somewhere else, or bug nerim.
<4> dondelelcaro, better ? :)
<4> aparently no any person has ATI on etch running FGLRX :/
<3> Thanatermesis: what is the full output of whatever script it is that is actually running?
<4> dondelelcaro, its a "rules" from a source pacakge... and it try download a file (rpm) to actually don't exists
<3> Thanatermesis: meh? the rules file shouldn't be doing that.
<4> i can posible to modify the rules file but... the file to try to download is...
<4> fglrx_6_9_0-8.19.10-1.i386.rpm
<4> 6_9 <--
<4> and the only of i found on the ATI's site is a 6_8
<7> can anyone help me downgrade my nvidia drivers using the debian packages and module-***istant?
<3> Thanatermesis: well, see what files actually exist there, and substitue the proper one; it's also possible that ati hasn't built the 6.9 ones
<4> oh yes dondelelcaro... is a very good rules :)
<11> Thanatermesis: welcome in the world of non-free, not yet updated for reality software ;)
<4> yes... this is my problem... i don't know/think to it builds and runs properly on the 6.9 version of xorg... :/
<4> hehehe _rene_
<3> Thanatermesis: well, you can always just run 6.8; but we really can't do much about it. You could also try bugging ATI.
<7> (Reading database ... 372782 files and directories currently installed.)
<4> dondelelcaro, im rebuilding because the old don't works... im recompiling now.. maybe works.. maybe no... i don't know... coming soon we know :)
<10> The DISPLAY variable is not set. You should either login to as root or use the command "su" with no flags, to make sure setup has an X display to use.- any ideas on this error? I do su and enter root p*** and then I get this: Setup requires an X display to run. There is a display variable set, however you have no permissions to access the X server (:0.0) it points to. Try running xhost +localhost before su'ing to root.
<4> 1 out of 1 hunk FAILED -- saving rejects to file firegl_public.c.rej
<4> ouch!
<7> I need to get a ~1 month old copy of the nvidia-kernel-source and nvidia-glx packages. Where can I get them?
<2> !sdn
<5> it has been said that sdn is go to http://snapshot.debian.net to get older packages. Almost every single package since somewhere in 2002 is here. year 2004 is laregly lost because of harddisk problem.
<0> is dpkg russian?
<2> dpkg: what are you
<5> I am a blootbot. For more info see <blootbot>
<3> dpkg: sdn =~ s/problem/problems/
<5> OK, dondelelcaro
<0> dpkg: blootbot
<5> it has been said that blootbot is a severely mutiliated infobot (right now, the code doesn't even look like infobot any more), by xk. Homepage at http://blootbot.sourceforge.net. Archive is at http://www.nyip.net/~apt/blootbot. See blootbot debs now in debian, or if you didn't already know this you probably don't want to run a blootbot unless you're very good with perl
<3> avar: you can /msg the bot...
<7> abrotman: sdn is having trouble finding nvidia-kernel-source or nvidia-glx
<2> maybe he doesn't put non-free there?



<7> never mind
<7> its just broken web forms
<7> or broken firefox
<7> i guess i need to go read the html specs before i decide who to email
<7> no doctype... html4 is in vogue, yes?
<2> sparr: PEBKAC
<7> ok, seems to be a firefox bug
<7> abrotman: PEBBAW
<7> browser and website
<12> hi, i've just re-installed Testing, but don't seem to have all the options i used to have in Gnome's Keyboard Preferences > Layout Options. I used to use the one that made Caps Lock an extra Ctrl key. Anyone have any suggestions?
<13> i need to change my default website on apache2 in sarge...how do i do that?
<14> There's a few packages I'm having trouble finding. I'm not sure if it's because I need something else in my sources.list or not. But does anyone else have libxfont in their repositories? If so, what are you running? (stable, unstable, testing)?
<15> Is there a package like libsasl2-modules-ldap, or something that has the ldap modules for sasl?
<3> !+info libxfont1
<5> Updating debian files... please wait.
<5> Package 'libxfont1' does not exist.
<14> !+info libxfont
<5> Package 'libxfont' does not exist.
<7> awww, no more abrotman?
<3> !+info libxfont1 experimental
<5> Updating debian files... please wait.
<7> turns out SDN has a bad form
<5> libxfont1: (X11 font rasterisation library), section x11, is optional. Version: 1:1.0.0-1 (experimental), Packaged size: 221 kB, Installed size: 480 kB
<7> not firefox's fault
<7> guess i should email whoever does the html there
<12> hey luke
<8> No one should be running libxfont1 in Debian yet
<14> !+info libxfont unstable
<5> Package 'libxfont' does not exist.
<14> !+info libxfont1 unstable
<5> Package 'libxfont1' does not exist.
<8> Not for a least a week or two
<8> simplex: It's not in unstable
<8> I haven't put it there yet
<8> Geez
<14> gravity: just wondering. Thanks.
<3> gravity: you lazy bastard! ;-)
<8> dondelelcaro: :-)
<15> Anyone? :)
<15> Is there a package like libsasl2-modules-ldap, or something that has the ldap modules for sasl?
<14> How well does experimental run? From what I've heard, there aren't many problems with it.
<8> simplex: You shouldn't run that library yet
<8> It's not ready
<3> simplex: depends totally on the package in question.
<8> You'll break your X
<14> gravity: I see. What I'm trying to do is install xgl.
<8> simplex: Have fun
<14> And it requires that apparently :-/
<8> simplex: #xgl will probably be of more use to you
<14> gravity: Well if I can't run that library yet I should probably just wait anyways.
<14> Thanks for the information.
<16> i'm getting authentication errors on the packages dash, cramfsprogs, and initrd-tools from ftp.us.debian.org as i try to do a netinstall with etch
<16> should i force apt-get to use them anyway or should i be worried about the state of the repository
<16> ?
<17> greetings, what parameter in fstab should I put in Type for mounting Fat32 drives without getting the 8-character-max limit ?
<18> Non-compliant: install the 2006 key and update again
<18> RedDrag0n: mount as vfat instead of auto
<16> SerajewelKS: can i do this from within the etch installer shell? i'm not yet familiar with the gpg authentication of packages
<17> SerajewelKS, thanks :D
<18> !tell Non-compliant about 2006 key
<18> Non-compliant: the etch installer should have the key, i would think...
<4> _rene_ i have like your words of "welcome to the world of non-free"... i need to explain now about this problem.. can you posible to recomends me about a good link/howto/text where explains WHY don't use propietary hardware and all this things ? (the tipical story for the ppl to not knows about all this)
<11> Thanatermesis: because it's a) not free b) you cannot change/fix it c) the ati aand nvidia drivers are buggy d) they let you run into situations like these
<19> c) is actually the weakest argument
<11> it's not like the release of x 6.9 was a surprise
<8> hehe
<19> A good argument is "you're at the mercy of your vendor, which is not a good place to be".
<18> agreed, the nvidia drivers have no problems over here
<11> dagbrown: that's d)
<20> hi, is a file server ram intensive mainly nfs/samba
<21> /set
<4> ok


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