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<0> stew, We got a VOIP gateway, a ADSL router and a Gigabit switch.
<0> stew, Our ADSL provider is unreliable as hell.
<0> stew, And we have the option of getting a wireless internet aswell.
<1> nice link dpkg... that's what sciboy wants!
<2> oh !
<1> we love our bots here...
<3> sciboy, keep in mind that 2 lniks from the same provider is probably just as unreliable as one. get another link from a different provider
<0> stew, What my boss wants to know is if we can use them both simultaneously?
<2> dli_: i see
<1> sciboy: did you see the message from dpkg dude?
<4> hejux, don't what's causing the trouble :(
<5> sciboy: certainly. see url dpkg just spit out or the tons of info from lartc.org
<2> well , CTRL +P doesn't work in irssi !!!!
<3> sciboy, if you replace the gateway line on eth0 in that exaple dpkg pasted for you with a multipath default gw route, you will have working loadbalancing
<6> Who can tell me ,how to list all users in debian?
<2> clear



<5> OhMyGod: getent p***wd
<3> sciboy, then you need to do some scripting or ping checks or (some means of detecting a link failure) that removes the downed interface from the master routing table.
<0> sep, It is never fully down, it just becomes insanely slow at times so much i can ping timeout.
<1> OhMyGod: you can also cat /etc/p***wd though it is a few more keystrokes :-)
<3> sciboy, well you can srop it manualy or you can drop it based on ping latency or timeouts that's up to you. since youll need to script that.
<5> !split access is also http://lartc.org/howto/lartc.rpdb.multiple-links.html
<7> okay, stew
<6> thank you
<3> stew, no. that's loadbalancing
<8> !popcon
<7> [popcon] the Debian Popularity contest. See results at http://popcon.debian.org/ or install popularity-contest to participate. do the dpkg-reconfigure -plow popularity-contest right after you answered all debconf stuff
<3> stew, altho it's just the master default gw changing :)
<5> sep: this is not split access?
<3> stew, i had that link in a different factoid earlier. but i cant seem to find it again. :] it's ok
<9> Here's an old script I made a while back for rudimentary load balancing between interfaces -- http://www.matts-hosting.com/~generalmx/rc.firewall-2.4-gnmx.tar.gz
<3> stew, technicaly not. since there are several usages of split access without bothering with loadbalancing. but that's nitpicking
<5> sep: it doesn't seem to be in any other factoids now
<10> hi, which library I need so I can compile some programs with gcc 3.4? (I am building my system from scratch with just debian kernel in it)
<5> renewbie: apt-get install build-essential
<10> :)
<11> greetings everyone!
<5> renewbie: oh, and apt-get install gcc-3.4
<10> stew: did that
<3> stew, i know dont know what happeded to it
<10> stew: thank you
<5> sep: http://dpkg.vireo.org/search.php?q=lartc.org&term=value
<3> stew, not there. mine was named loadbalanace or some such
<12> I guess I should clarify I'm looking at moving my whole partition onto another disk and using that disk as my new primary disk. cp -a is all that's necessary? fstab will be messed up ... should I just change that over there?
<10> stew: build-essential is a breeze
<4> aesxa, you have to rewrite fstab, reinstall grub
<11> aesxa: personally, I dins drive cloning software to be the fastest best way
<13> aesxa: did you look at partimage yet?
<13> !info partimage
<7> partimage: (backup partitions into a compressed image file), section admin, is optional. Version: 0.6.4-14+b1 (sid), Packaged size: 279 kB, Installed size: 796 kB
<12> newave, streuner, no, I haven't looked at those things. dli_, how do I reinstall GRUB?
<12> Yeah maybe I should switch to lilo ... I've used GRUB for a long time, is using lilo a good idea?
<4> aesxa, I think you have to read a howto, or ask with specific conditions
<5> aesxa: stick with grub; read /usr/share/doc/grub/README.Debian
<1> aesxa: yeah, change fstab afterwards. one option is to just put grub on a floppy and boot from it, then install in the new drive's mbr. But it -ought- to be possible to install grub on a second hard drive's mbr
<1> streuner: I remember using lilo once in the past. but once I learned grub, I haven't looked back. what's lilo good at?
<11> david3: to look at heh
<1> newave: what, while it doesn't boot the computer? that's rather below the belt, I remember it worked fine
<13> david3: some people know lilo and have no clue about grub ;-)
<12> I see. Thanks everyone. Can I not just edit grub's routines, or will it cry? When GRUB starts it lets me c for command line or e for edit. I should just be able to change the hard drive number, right?
<13> !start a bootloader war
<7> silo 0wnz j00
<11> i use grub myself but for no other reason than it came with my distro and works
<11> I'll use whatever works
<1> I learned to use grub when I needed it to dual-boot win98 from an external hdd
<14> triffid_hunter: ok /etc/aliases says:
<14> postmaster: root
<14> root: zu22
<13> !literal start a bootloader war
<7> "#debian start a bootloader war" is "<REPLY> (grub rules|lilo ****s|msdos bootloader kicks some ***|OS/2 Boot Manager is all you need|grub ****s|lilo rules|palo is the best!|milo ****s|silo 0wnz j00|yaboot rules)"
<1> streuner: excellent. that's all I have to say!
<13> hm, created by xk, no big suprise then
<15> i'm having a problem with the flash plugin, i'm not able to see text at all on flash objects.
<11> any amiga vets here?
<13> hardly
<1> Fac51: which flash plugin? there are several (and we might not be able to help you a whole lot with that in #debian)



<16> Hi guys. Need some help with installation using minimal CD. System not recognizing Intel on board 82801GR (ICH7) network adapter. What to do? Thanks
<17> I've got the same Flash problem on all browsers in Debian. Sites such as http://stargatesg1.com/stargatelb.html don't show the text on the top layer.
<5> Fac51: make sure you ahve gsfonts-xll installed
<15> david3: the one that firefox downloads when you try to view a flash movie
<15> stew: i did that
<18> endless: take an unofficial install image with a recent kernel
<13> endless: try another installer
<16> Thanks
<13> endless: is the chipset supported at all in linux?
<16> Have no problem at all with FC5
<12> alright I guess I'll go to sleep while this copies : P. Thanks for the help everyone. : )
<13> endless: wanna use sarge?
<5> endless: what does "lspci -n | awk '/0200/{print $3}'" say?
<16> I just try to instal from minimal CD
<16> Stop at ethernet screen
<13> endless: try kmuto's sarge installer
<13> !sarge 2.6.15
<7> i heard sarge 2.6.15 is http://kmuto.jp/b.cgi/debian/d-i-2615.htm or for amd64/em64t http://kmuto.jp/b.cgi/debian/d-i-2615-amd64.htm
<3> newave, why do you want to know ?
<19> Hello good people. Anyone familiar with softwareraid 5 and the error: May 19 00:03:23 localhost kernel: md0: rw=0, want=9838415368, limit=1465190784 ?
<11> sep: just curious. A lot of us old ami users moved to linux... just seeing if any were in here :)
<16> which unofficial I need to download, test or unstable?
<13> endless: none
<13> endless: install stable/sarge first
<3> newave, im still using my amigas now and then. shame that spareparts is so hard to cmoe by
<16> I have stable minimal cd
<16> That the cd i run
<11> sep: right on same here! The parts issue was bad even during their production
<11> sep: today, emulated ami is just as good IMO so it isnt really an issue to me anymore. Keep the antiquities under fl*** and play the emu
<11> gl****
<3> newave, noooooo i want my ND100 working again too.. !! it pains me to see it in such a defective way
<11> sep: ND100?
<20> how big is a debian base install?
<13> with or without X?
<20> without
<20> eewww X
<21> is there any performance/stability difference using a msdos partition table over bsd or sun when installing on a new hdd?
<5> kgoetz: troll elsewhere
<21> stew: er....
<21> wtf?
<13> kgoetz: read /topic
<18> !d-i kgoetz
<7> kgoetz, you want to go to http://www.debian.org/releases/sarge/debian-installer/ - for your own good, and everyone else's.
<22> hey can anyone help me i'm trying to dual boot knoppix 4.0 and xp pro
<20> can someone shoot me?
<22> sure
<13> hm, do we have friday today? ;-)
<13> or sunday :-)
<18> !friday
<7> methinks friday is Tardsday Eve Eve
<21> thanks tralala
<18> oh, yes we do have one
<13> !sunday
<7> Sunday is the day all trolls swarm to #debian, avoid at all cost to remain sane.
<18> !sing sunday
<7> Everyday is like sunday... Everyday the tards come to play...
<18> that settles it, I think
<13> xbmodder_lappy: i would say about 100 MB
<20> sweet
<18> xbmodder_lappy: there isn't much you can do with it though
<22> yea thx for being so usefull, i'll go elsewhere
<18> !customer
<7> another happy customer leaves the building
<23> streuner, xbmodder_lappy: that much? my base/minimal installs are usually ~30MB
<23> oops, sorry - that is way off
<5> oh
<5> heh
<23> i have a rsync mirror of a minimun debian base install. du -sh reports it as 298M.
<23> i must be remembering back to old days of minimal floppy installs
<5> i misread kgoetz question the first time
<5> he wasn't trolling
<5> although i have my doubts that he runs debian
<23> oops


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