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<0> Reformatting ls(1), please wait...
<0> can't execute exec: No such file or directory
<0> command exited with status 65280: /usr/bin/zsoelim /tmp/zmanqMDz46 | /usr/bin/tbl | /usr/bin/nroff -mandoc -rLL=107n -rLT=107n -Tascii | exec /usr/bin/pager -s -X
<1> ye_old, ok
<0> can't remove /tmp/zmanqMDz46: No such file or directory
<0> command exited with status 65280 - what is it?
<2> AR: wild guess really, try touching that file.
<3> Eulex: probably I am already using etch, how could I test that? uname -a doesn't tell it
<1> AR, well, have you got zsoelim, tbl, nroff and pager? and does the exec command in your shell work?
<0> yes
<0> this programms i have
<0> yes
<4> liable /dev is there, but im confused about what you told me to do.
<1> ye_old, dpkg -l libc6|tail -1 && apt-cache policy libc6|grep 500
<0> which zsoelim
<0> /usr/bin/zsoelim



<5> cat /etc/debian_version
<2> daniel^^_: does /dev/input/mice exist?
<3> sais testing/unstable
<0> i try to reinstall packages manpages and man-db, but this don't help
<4> liable: no, I have tried to cat it too. it says "no such device" same goes for /dev/mouse /dev/usb/mice and some other
<5> mousedev perhaps
<2> daniel^^_: man makedev .. MAKEDEV generic or whatever if theres a more specific one (dont have access to man myself atm)
<5> modprobe mousedev ?
<5> already tried?
<2> AR: touch /tmp/zmanqMDz46 ??
<3> I heard the freeze in debian sid is very near, so the packages should be in a good shape, is this trustworthy? :)
<2> no
<0> modprobe mousedev && mkdir /dev/input && mknod /dev/input/mice c 13 63 && gpm -t mps2 -m /dev/input/mice
<0> liable: empty
<2> AR: man touch (make the file..)
<6> ye_old, maybe my sarcasm probe is decalibrated yet again, but sid will never be stable
<0> liable: man don't work :(
<2> AR: copy what i wrote
<3> Maakuth_: hehe, yeah, i know
<5> !blame udev
<0> /tmp/zmanqMDz46 - as i think temporary file, when man preprocessing the page
<2> heh, its sorta behaved itself lately :)
<7> duh
<5> lol sorry
<0> when i repeat man ls
<0> tehis file is new: can't remove /tmp/zmanQwtzo0: No such file or directory
<8> liable: Can I trust that script? :P
<8> heheheh.
<2> holmeh: no idea :)
<8> I will hold you liable
<8> What's your realname so I can sue you?
<2> bah
<8> I am just kidding anyways. :-)
<0> command exited with status 65280 - where i can fined the error description
<0> ?
<0> *find
<2> AR: whats your perms in /tmp? did you extract a deb there or something?
<0> drwxrwxrwt 11 root root 4096 Feb 19 13:39 tmp
<2> hrm, looks ok.
<0> i try strace the command such as 'man ls', but i don;t find nothing ...
<0> thi troubles begins after i upgrade my distributiv ...
<2> AR: can you use zless on any .gz?
<0> yes
<3> this is actually a devils circle: you need some package, that has an important update but is unstable or testing, so you have to go there, get all the dependencies and soon you find yourself using unstable and whining about how everything is crashing :D and the best part: you won't get support, because you're using unstable.
<0> y can red man pages with mc [F3], or in konqueror [man:/ls]
<9> hey guys. Where can on which kernel is supported by the latest debian distro?
<0> but this don't usability
<9> where can I read up even.
<2> AR: check the bts, i have no idea.
<0> liable: what is bts?
<1> !bts
<10> bts is the Bug Tracking System for Debian packages, http://bugs.debian.org/ or to go directly to the bug page for a particular package/bug, try http://bugs.debian.org/packagename or http://bugs.debian.org/bugnumber apt-get install reportbug, and check out querybts too. Unstable users are required to check the BTS, useful for sid: apt-get install apt-listbugs, or apt-get install apt-listchanges, or http://fabre.debian.net/
<1> Stormtrooper, the latest kernel in debian testing and unstable is 2.6.15.
<0> thnx
<9> Eulex, stable?
<2> 2.6.8
<5> lots of online manpages too
<2> but you can install newer kernels..\
<0> i install 2.6.15 kernel, and on my pc don't work sound :(



<2> AR: read your aptitude or dpkg log and look for what may be the culprit.
<9> hm.. isn't debian stable supposed to bu super-duper tested for robustness? i.e. the kernel included in the stable version, is the super stable/tested one, right?
<5> right
<1> Stormtrooper, yes, stable has 2.6.8 and 2.4.27
<5> with security patches
<2> many servers say so..
<0> liable: when i upgrade distr, i have so much troubles ...
<5> i had that manpage problem
<5> lemme think
<2> jetscreamer: fix it!:)
<5> did you chown/chmod the tmp dir
<5> ?
<5> del the zkhfdhsuyt765 file?
<0> 2.6.15 kernel use udev system or hotplug?
<5> i don't know i can't remember, me and my box have been through 2.5.15 stock + udev hell the past couple weeks
<5> both
<0> hm...
<0> and when i install udev, hotplug removes ...?
<2> you are supposed to purge it
<5> i think i might have deleted that tmp file and chown either/or my home dir or /tmp
<5> no hotplug stays
<2> udev replaces hotplug.
<5> removing udev will take 2.6.15 and mkinitramfs-tools with it.. unless you install yeaid first
<0> it is really
<5> not 'really'
<5> yaird i mean
<11> packages.debian.org is down at the moment due to performance issues.
<2> mivecz: /topic
<1> mivecz, /topc
<5> there seems to be 2 or 3 different 'flavors' of hotplug though
<2> !win me
<10> Congratulations, liable! You have won a lifetime supply of spam!
<2> yay
<1> hehe
<1> spam spam spam, lovely spam :)
<0> when i use apt-get dist-upgrade... udev not install because i not have kernel 2.6.12, but install 2.6.15 kernel require udev :)))))
<1> AR, reboot a new kernel, then reboot and install udev with the new kernel.
<1> umh
<5> AR: it's because 2.6.15 requires an mkinitrd tool, and mkinitramfs is one of them, and it depends on udev. yaird is an alternative, and doesn't depend on udev.
<1> *install* a new kernel
<2> AR: bugs.debian.org/udev
<5> and mkinitramfs is the default
<2> read up on some of the fun things about udev
<11> is work ok
<12> when I log in, how do I stop it saying "No Mail."
<5> get a friend who will email you? :)
<2> mail yourself?
<0> what is better : hotplug or udev?
<12> Haha I walked right into that one :(
<5> neither
<12> how do I turn the mail notification off
<3> aidehua: type: givemail --please --now
<3> AR: udev/hal/dbus in my opinion
<5> compile your own kernel
<0> O, a have yetanother question, in my laptop don't work the volume keys in lateral panel...
<5> unless you're a compulsive hardware buyer
<1> AR, xbindkeys or lineakd.
<5> i just can't affordt to be one :(
<0> Eulex: thnx, i try it
<5> i want a cray
<1> AR, yw :)
<3> I've man'ed through the sources.list but it still does not tell me, how i can find out, what sections a server has. I mean, how can I find out if there actually is a section testing/non-us on a specific server?
<2> AR: what laptop? check tuxmobil.org
<5> browse the ftp site
<0> HP Omnibook 6100
<2> !non-us
<10> non-us is, like, where we put software that cannot be distributed from the USA. For woody, use "deb http://non-US.debian.org/debian-non-US woody/non-US main contrib non-free" in sources.list, and deb-src if you want sources. Changes in legislation mean that post-Woody, there is no non-us, so you don't need it for Sarge, Etch or Sid. Ask me about "crypto". for the few remaining packages, see http://lists.debian.org/debian-release/2005/05/msg01355.html
<13> ye_old: because the server has the appropriate dists/testing/binary-i386/Release et al.?
<2> ye_old: non-us is no more..
<3> it was only an example
<0> i use some times Mandriva linux, in mandriva this keys work immediately
<2> bad example! :)
<3> well, but you see my point? :)
<0> but i don't like mandriva ...


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