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<0> jelly-ho: thanks. wood is bad 'cause when it breaks, it can hurt badly the flesh. but don't worry i have rulers :) <0> jelly-ho: you're new to this, right? <1> tarzeau: i'm building a new kernel from your .config now. I should not have an initrd entry in grub's menu.lst then, right? <0> j-run: right. if you use make-kpkg (kernel-package) you don't need to edit grub menu.lst by hand <0> j-run: i'd recommend using make-kpkg <1> yes, exactly <1> I am <0> jelly-ho: it's also good to have no hairs on the place to be spanked <2> tarzeau: Not to worry, I'll prepare the parts in advance. <2> tarzeau: If you'd be my, shall we say, Debian sponsor, I could be your long lost NM. <0> jelly-ho: which packages do you maintain? you know i'm NM too ;) <0> jelly-ho: wanna see the double pony tails? <2> tarzeau: actually I haven't even applied yet. ;-) <0> jelly-ho: do it right now. show me your packages <3> how do I search packages based on Tag: ? <3> like I want to find all packages in the archive that have the tag "made-of::lang:php" for instance
<4> did bill gates write linux ( didnt think so) <4> i wonder if bill gates has ever used linux <0> jammyflynn20: why would it matter? <5> Where are the xservers kept in the filesystem? <2> tarzeau: I'm not sure if I should show them to the world yet. Most are binary only... and some do kinky stuff do other people's conffiles. <0> sfullenwider: which version? <5> xorg <6> sfullenwider: if this is about xorg 7.0, read the topic <0> jelly-ho: show me. no source packages? <0> sfullenwider: which version? <0> Seb: i doubt all software is tagged yet. btw remember where to tag them? <5> well, I d/led ATI's proprietary driver and need to know where to dump the resultant xserver <0> sfullenwider: #ati <6> eww ati <6> evil evil evil <3> tarzeau: nope, I don't, but even if not everything is tagged, my questions stands <5> tnx <0> Shadowcat: no more than nvidia <3> question* <6> tarzeau: nvidia actually works once in a while :P <7> yeah <0> Seb: i don't know the answer <3> tarzeau: k :) <0> Shadowcat: true. i've also seen ati work... <7> nvidia doesnt break power managent as badly on my laptop <0> Shadowcat: just don't use the tutorial that you find when googling for fglrx debian ati <6> don't use? <6> give me the url so that I can blacklist it <1> my ati agp works just fine... glorious b/w on a 7" crt ;) <0> let me check if it's here <0> !ati <8> Read http://www.linuks.mine.nu/debian-faq-wiki/UseAti <6> don't use that? <6> heh <0> Shadowcat: http://xoomer.virgilio.it/flavio.stanchina/debian/fglrx-installer.html that one is bad <0> Shadowcat: that one is good: www.linuks.mine.nu/ati/ <6> in other words <0> Shadowcat: yes the debian faq wiki is bad too <6> blacklist the first link <6> gotcha <9> Hehe -- shadowcat was right -- upgrading sid to xorg still isn't a good idea ;) <10> Hi there... I have just directed the MX-Record of a domain to one of my root servers, and after that I installed a raw postfix. - What have I to do to make the whole thing secure? <11> gnufan: what problems did you have? <0> Shadowcat: blacklist both but the one with good in the same line not <9> stew I can't install xserver-xorg :( <6> that's no surprise <6> I told you it would **** up <11> gnufan: be more specific <9> the problem I have is the preconfigure script for xserver-xorg fails with error 64. I'm sure I've debugged problems with these before the good old fashioned "bash -x" way -- where does it unpack? <2> tarzeau: yup, no source. this is an example: http://kosjenka.srce.hr/~jelly/squirrelmail-change-p***-cn_2.6-1_all.deb unfortunately the repository isn't open to the outside world... <12> gnufan: Dude, if you could debug that I'd owe you a beer <11> gnufan: /var/lib/dpkg/info/xserver-xorg.preinst <12> gnufan: I've seen the bug but I haven't been able to reproduce it yet due to time constraints <9> shadowcat it looked really promising up to the point it installed the xserver ;) <13> hi all, is there someone familiar with anjuta ??? <12> Xorg 7 really is on the verge of being in pretty ok shape <12> That bug and a font one that's already patched is all that's left <6> heh <6> good to hear <0> jelly-ho: once you open it with source, feel free, i can check things <0> jelly-ho: and apply as NM! NOW
<9> stew hmm no xserver-xorg.preinst in there.. I have a postrm and list but no preinst <14> I only have one computer and was trying to install debian (sarge) on the other partition, for some reason the network card was not recognised, how can I go about fixing it // I won't have connectivity at the time <13> is there someone who knows about any problems with anjuta-encodings.c, cause my anjuta is crashing there <6> minerale: what nic? <9> stew no such file ought to give me 127 not 64 error code -- hmm <6> gnufan: get your *** into #debian-devel :P <6> we need you there :P <11> gnufan: that's odd, unless it changed from 7.0.11 to 7.0.12, 7.0.11 definately had a xserver-org.preinst <11> gnufan: lemme upgrade mine <14> shawn : The nic is Marvell Yukon 88E8001/8003/8010 PCI Geigabit Ethernet Controller <14> Shadowcat: s/shawn/Shadowcat <6> uhh <6> try etch <6> that's a VERY recent ethernet controller <15> shogunx, ding ding ding <14> The nic came with a Gigabit motherboard <15> abrotman, how are ya <15> asg, hey there <6> minerale: it's the new "standard" nic on most motherboards <11> minerale: i don't recommend upgrading to testing just to get a newer kernel as Shadowcat does <0> !seen bob2 <8> bob2 <i=rob@crumbs.ertius.org> was last seen on IRC in channel #debian, 123d 14h 16m 37s ago, saying: 'Mortal1: np, good luck'. <6> he needs a newer kernel to get that nic recognized <0> what happened to bob2? <12> tarzeau: No one knows <11> minerale: /msg dpkg sarge 2.6.15 <16> he said, he had another job, but that was it <6> stew: well or that <6> I'd go with etch though <9> stew it claims (dpkg-deb) I don't really need it -- should I install the dependencies manually - see if that works? <6> it's got generally speaking newer software <17> I have a super weird network problem <15> gravity, he probably went on sabbatical ;) <18> how does a developer get their apps into the debian repositories? <6> but either way stew and I agree on one thing, a newer kernel is needed, which is a miracle <12> dan2: I hope so <12> I hope he's ok <12> I worry about him <15> gravity nobody's worried about me for my time being gone about 8 months ;) <17> My debian box is dualhomed, 1 wan 1 lan. Both nic's work fine as the lan card. But when working as wan neither works properly. Only 1/50 or so packets get in/out <12> dan2: I noticed you were gone but I figured you were just hanging out with Ubuntu or something <17> i dont knwo what caused this weird behavior. The wan link works fine. tested it on 2 other boxes <16> gravity: not that unusual, see caphuso... <16> !seen caphuso <8> caphuso <n=caphuso@p54819620.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> was last seen on IRC in channel #debian, 94d 9h 13m 21s ago, saying: 'nerdy2: (ok, we do use sftp, but not in the ftp-over-ssl sense)'. <15> gravity, nah, I had to go back to windows to go work on my trading, but now I've got colinux and windows running (colinux kicks ***) <12> Cool <15> I've got real debian running under colinux (noemu) <9> E-bola may the wrong cable -- do these nics automatically cope with the case where they don't have a crossover cable to the router? <17> Can you track/check anywhere what packages ahve been installed/removed/upgraded? A sort of history function for packages? <17> gnufan: its the same cable ive always used <17> and it works with 2 other nicks in the other servers <17> only thing i can see changed is an apt-get upgrade i did yesterday <17> so im wondering if there is somewhere i can see what pakages i upgraded? <9> E-bola dpkg has a log -- I think some of the other install tools log stuff but not all <16> E-bola: /var/lib/dpkg/info via ls <19> did any of you guys see that optical transistor stuff on digg? <14> Shadowcat: I'm downloading the Yukon nic driver for linux... 137 mb :O <20> there a place here called Yukon <19> that's stuff's crazy <20> its full of rednecks <21> minerale: a 137mb driver? <17> streuner: how can i use that? <6> minerale: there is no 2.6 driver for that nic <6> minerale: it's in the kernel <6> just go install etch <6> it'll save you a lot of trouble <11> !tell Shadowcat about enter <11> minerale: you are trying to install right? <21> !tell Norbert about enter <6> wait, never mind, my fault <6> !beat stew <11> Shadowcat: stop doing that
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