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<0> jelly-ho: thanks. wood is bad 'cause when it breaks, it can hurt badly the flesh. but don't worry i have rulers :)
<0> jelly-ho: you're new to this, right?
<1> tarzeau: i'm building a new kernel from your .config now. I should not have an initrd entry in grub's menu.lst then, right?
<0> j-run: right. if you use make-kpkg (kernel-package) you don't need to edit grub menu.lst by hand
<0> j-run: i'd recommend using make-kpkg
<1> yes, exactly
<1> I am
<0> jelly-ho: it's also good to have no hairs on the place to be spanked
<2> tarzeau: Not to worry, I'll prepare the parts in advance.
<2> tarzeau: If you'd be my, shall we say, Debian sponsor, I could be your long lost NM.
<0> jelly-ho: which packages do you maintain? you know i'm NM too ;)
<0> jelly-ho: wanna see the double pony tails?
<2> tarzeau: actually I haven't even applied yet. ;-)
<0> jelly-ho: do it right now. show me your packages
<3> how do I search packages based on Tag: ?
<3> like I want to find all packages in the archive that have the tag "made-of::lang:php" for instance



<4> did bill gates write linux ( didnt think so)
<4> i wonder if bill gates has ever used linux
<0> jammyflynn20: why would it matter?
<5> Where are the xservers kept in the filesystem?
<2> tarzeau: I'm not sure if I should show them to the world yet. Most are binary only... and some do kinky stuff do other people's conffiles.
<0> sfullenwider: which version?
<5> xorg
<6> sfullenwider: if this is about xorg 7.0, read the topic
<0> jelly-ho: show me. no source packages?
<0> sfullenwider: which version?
<0> Seb: i doubt all software is tagged yet. btw remember where to tag them?
<5> well, I d/led ATI's proprietary driver and need to know where to dump the resultant xserver
<0> sfullenwider: #ati
<6> eww ati
<6> evil evil evil
<3> tarzeau: nope, I don't, but even if not everything is tagged, my questions stands
<5> tnx
<0> Shadowcat: no more than nvidia
<3> question*
<6> tarzeau: nvidia actually works once in a while :P
<7> yeah
<0> Seb: i don't know the answer
<3> tarzeau: k :)
<0> Shadowcat: true. i've also seen ati work...
<7> nvidia doesnt break power managent as badly on my laptop
<0> Shadowcat: just don't use the tutorial that you find when googling for fglrx debian ati
<6> don't use?
<6> give me the url so that I can blacklist it
<1> my ati agp works just fine... glorious b/w on a 7" crt ;)
<0> let me check if it's here
<0> !ati
<8> Read http://www.linuks.mine.nu/debian-faq-wiki/UseAti
<6> don't use that?
<6> heh
<0> Shadowcat: http://xoomer.virgilio.it/flavio.stanchina/debian/fglrx-installer.html that one is bad
<0> Shadowcat: that one is good: www.linuks.mine.nu/ati/
<6> in other words
<0> Shadowcat: yes the debian faq wiki is bad too
<6> blacklist the first link
<6> gotcha
<9> Hehe -- shadowcat was right -- upgrading sid to xorg still isn't a good idea ;)
<10> Hi there... I have just directed the MX-Record of a domain to one of my root servers, and after that I installed a raw postfix. - What have I to do to make the whole thing secure?
<11> gnufan: what problems did you have?
<0> Shadowcat: blacklist both but the one with good in the same line not
<9> stew I can't install xserver-xorg :(
<6> that's no surprise
<6> I told you it would **** up
<11> gnufan: be more specific
<9> the problem I have is the preconfigure script for xserver-xorg fails with error 64. I'm sure I've debugged problems with these before the good old fashioned "bash -x" way -- where does it unpack?
<2> tarzeau: yup, no source. this is an example: http://kosjenka.srce.hr/~jelly/squirrelmail-change-p***-cn_2.6-1_all.deb unfortunately the repository isn't open to the outside world...
<12> gnufan: Dude, if you could debug that I'd owe you a beer
<11> gnufan: /var/lib/dpkg/info/xserver-xorg.preinst
<12> gnufan: I've seen the bug but I haven't been able to reproduce it yet due to time constraints
<9> shadowcat it looked really promising up to the point it installed the xserver ;)
<13> hi all, is there someone familiar with anjuta ???
<12> Xorg 7 really is on the verge of being in pretty ok shape
<12> That bug and a font one that's already patched is all that's left
<6> heh
<6> good to hear
<0> jelly-ho: once you open it with source, feel free, i can check things
<0> jelly-ho: and apply as NM! NOW



<9> stew hmm no xserver-xorg.preinst in there.. I have a postrm and list but no preinst
<14> I only have one computer and was trying to install debian (sarge) on the other partition, for some reason the network card was not recognised, how can I go about fixing it // I won't have connectivity at the time
<13> is there someone who knows about any problems with anjuta-encodings.c, cause my anjuta is crashing there
<6> minerale: what nic?
<9> stew no such file ought to give me 127 not 64 error code -- hmm
<6> gnufan: get your *** into #debian-devel :P
<6> we need you there :P
<11> gnufan: that's odd, unless it changed from 7.0.11 to 7.0.12, 7.0.11 definately had a xserver-org.preinst
<11> gnufan: lemme upgrade mine
<14> shawn : The nic is Marvell Yukon 88E8001/8003/8010 PCI Geigabit Ethernet Controller
<14> Shadowcat: s/shawn/Shadowcat
<6> uhh
<6> try etch
<6> that's a VERY recent ethernet controller
<15> shogunx, ding ding ding
<14> The nic came with a Gigabit motherboard
<15> abrotman, how are ya
<15> asg, hey there
<6> minerale: it's the new "standard" nic on most motherboards
<11> minerale: i don't recommend upgrading to testing just to get a newer kernel as Shadowcat does
<0> !seen bob2
<8> bob2 <i=rob@crumbs.ertius.org> was last seen on IRC in channel #debian, 123d 14h 16m 37s ago, saying: 'Mortal1: np, good luck'.
<6> he needs a newer kernel to get that nic recognized
<0> what happened to bob2?
<12> tarzeau: No one knows
<11> minerale: /msg dpkg sarge 2.6.15
<16> he said, he had another job, but that was it
<6> stew: well or that
<6> I'd go with etch though
<9> stew it claims (dpkg-deb) I don't really need it -- should I install the dependencies manually - see if that works?
<6> it's got generally speaking newer software
<17> I have a super weird network problem
<15> gravity, he probably went on sabbatical ;)
<18> how does a developer get their apps into the debian repositories?
<6> but either way stew and I agree on one thing, a newer kernel is needed, which is a miracle
<12> dan2: I hope so
<12> I hope he's ok
<12> I worry about him
<15> gravity nobody's worried about me for my time being gone about 8 months ;)
<17> My debian box is dualhomed, 1 wan 1 lan. Both nic's work fine as the lan card. But when working as wan neither works properly. Only 1/50 or so packets get in/out
<12> dan2: I noticed you were gone but I figured you were just hanging out with Ubuntu or something
<17> i dont knwo what caused this weird behavior. The wan link works fine. tested it on 2 other boxes
<16> gravity: not that unusual, see caphuso...
<16> !seen caphuso
<8> caphuso <n=caphuso@p54819620.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> was last seen on IRC in channel #debian, 94d 9h 13m 21s ago, saying: 'nerdy2: (ok, we do use sftp, but not in the ftp-over-ssl sense)'.
<15> gravity, nah, I had to go back to windows to go work on my trading, but now I've got colinux and windows running (colinux kicks ***)
<12> Cool
<15> I've got real debian running under colinux (noemu)
<9> E-bola may the wrong cable -- do these nics automatically cope with the case where they don't have a crossover cable to the router?
<17> Can you track/check anywhere what packages ahve been installed/removed/upgraded? A sort of history function for packages?
<17> gnufan: its the same cable ive always used
<17> and it works with 2 other nicks in the other servers
<17> only thing i can see changed is an apt-get upgrade i did yesterday
<17> so im wondering if there is somewhere i can see what pakages i upgraded?
<9> E-bola dpkg has a log -- I think some of the other install tools log stuff but not all
<16> E-bola: /var/lib/dpkg/info via ls
<19> did any of you guys see that optical transistor stuff on digg?
<14> Shadowcat: I'm downloading the Yukon nic driver for linux... 137 mb :O
<20> there a place here called Yukon
<19> that's stuff's crazy
<20> its full of rednecks
<21> minerale: a 137mb driver?
<17> streuner: how can i use that?
<6> minerale: there is no 2.6 driver for that nic
<6> minerale: it's in the kernel
<6> just go install etch
<6> it'll save you a lot of trouble
<11> !tell Shadowcat about enter
<11> minerale: you are trying to install right?
<21> !tell Norbert about enter
<6> wait, never mind, my fault
<6> !beat stew
<11> Shadowcat: stop doing that


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