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<0> stew: yeah, it's weird
<1> dazjorz: /etc/crontab? crontab -e -u root ?
<2> checking
<2> hmm
<2> btw.
<2> by default, dir is recursive here
<1> dazjorz: man crontab ; man cron
<2> but when I want to say dir /etc/cron.*, I want to see what directories begin with cron. in /etc, not their contents
<2> kspath, I know about crontab or cron, just didn't know the quotadaemon is in that?
<0> stew: any other ideas?
<3> dazjorz: ls -ld /etc/cron.*
<4> !dir
<5> wrong OS, foo
<2> but you're right, there's a /etc/cron.daily/quota
<3> hah
<2> hehe



<6> crookshanks: and that lsmod was DEFINATELY after you ran modprobe mousedev? (and not after you ran modprobe -r mousedev)?
<2> I know, I'm just still used to dir
<2> sorry...
<2> ..
<7> Hi,I'm trying to compile the bootsplash utils, using etch, but when it is compiling some stuff of freetype2 I get an error... the whole log is here: http://channels.debian.net/paste/2546 --I get the same error when I try to compile the bootsplash utils from bootsplash.org
<1> dazjorz: Everything that reports/excutes periodically is either a standalone daemon or cron or remote-login-execute.
<8> how find out what packages installed are from contrib or non-free?
<0> stew: pretty sure. I'll do it again to make sure
<4> seb-: apt-cache show vrms
<2> kspath, ok, i'll remember that
<9> !win32codecs
<8> valdyn: thanks
<2> kspath, just didn't think about cron
<9> !win32codec
<10> does someone know, why exim sent me mails, that I had deleted
<9> argh
<10> ??
<1> dazjorz: welcome to unix/linux/bsd
<6> seb-: there isn't a way to show where a pacakge was installed from after it is installed
<3> valdyn: well, that's one way tot do it :)
<9> !w32codecs
<5> w32codecs is, like, a package, not in Debian (or non-free or contrib) due to legal issues, that provides numerous multimedia codecs normally found on win32 systems for popular but usually proprietary formats. ask me about <marillat> to get it anyway
<3> *to
<2> kspath, that sounds like this is my first day on it...
<2> kspath, I've worked with cron before, I just thought it was a running daemon, but couldn't find it, that's why I asked here
<8> valdyn: heh, virtual rms
<0> stew: http://channels.debian.net/paste/2547
<3> stew: he could iterate over installed packages and feed the to apt-cache policy couldn't he?
<11> Hey guys, know you some apps to cut a part of an movie. I have record an thing from my tv card an need to cup some minutes on the begin and the end of the movie
<12> Can someone help me?.. I'm trying to convert the 5 CD ISO's of suse into a DVD, but the program titled 'makesusedvd' needs Yast & rpm, both of which i do not have (using mepis).
<3> lss: try #mepis and #suse / #novell
<13> good luck on that with the yast
<1> lss: This is #debian. That is not a Debian question/statement.
<13> ill never understand that program
<12> yast doesn't work on here anyway
<14> hello all, i'm afraid i'm not welcome... i have made a question twice, without any answer.. maybe i don't know how to make it?
<15> ok this is weird i iwlist and iwconfig all show the wireless airsnort as well but i cant dhclient to get a ip address weird
<16> littlesniper no, I'm just trying to make myself consise and clear :) but it's not that simple :)
<16> true
<13> lss my experience with yast is that the suse people say it works fine, just doesnt doo everything they would like but there ok with that.
<15> yast is a hog though really slow and you really have to dig for the good options
<13> the fact that the config files are unlocatable does not seem to bother them
<14> tralala have said to me how to make a question, but... maybe i have to look in another place..
<13> they have a really interesting idea of Open source
<13> thats for sure
<2> uh
<2> Now I've got this in my bashrc
<2> alias dir='ls -ld --color=tty $@'
<2> why, if I do dir in a directory with files, it only displays . as a directory, instead of all files?
<6> asg: yeah, i guess you are right
<3> stew: it's ugly and slow though
<7> Hey, I'm trying to compile the bootsplash utils, using etch, but when it is compiling some stuff of freetype2 I get an error... the whole log is here: http://channels.debian.net/paste/2546 --I get the same error when I try to compile the bootsplash utils from bootsplash.org
<0> asg: were you referring to me when you were talking about apt-cache policy?
<6> seb-: COLUMNS=200 dpkg -l | awk '/^.i/{print $2}' | while read a ; do apt-cache policy $a | egrep -q contrib\|non-free && echo $a ; done
<3> seb-: for i in $(dpkg -la | egrep ^[hi]i | awk '{print $2}') ; do echo -en "$i --> " ; apt-cache policy $i | grep 500 ; done
<0> asg: ah, nm =)
<13> hey who has there own email server based on debian? reason im asking is we are thinking about do our own email serving here and creating some sort of alowed list to allow individulas to send email. "closed system" i believe its called
<1> dazjorz: man ls
<0> stew: I think I'm just gonna punt on this and compile my own kernel
<1> dazjorz: look at was -d does in manual for ls
<0> stew: I've had pretty annoying problems with the kernel package that debian supplies in the past, also



<2> kspath, somebody just gave me that
<17> hi, can some one recommand me a good wireless pci card that is suported whitout propriety driver?
<1> !tell dazjorz about grounding
<2> kspath, I didn't want to get the contents of directories when I asked for them
<2> brb
<0> stew: I appreciate your help though
<6> crookshanks: i've never ever heard of the problem you are having with any kernel no matter who compiled it
<18> Hi there
<18> How can i do chown -R
<3> crookshanks: did mousedev show up in /proc/modules but not lsmod?
<18> When i try do that in the home dir
<6> Wharf: be more specific
<19> how could i specify more searching characters with grep ... like command | grep SEARCH1 SEARCH2
<18> It says to few arguments
<0> asg: nope, not there either
<20> chown -R *
<3> crookshanks: that is odd
<18> ta
<6> Wharf: what command are you typing?
<0> asg: yeah
<0> asg and stew: oh well, thanks for the help. i guess i'll tinker around with it more and see what i can figure out
<3> crookshanks: good luck
<0> asg: thanks
<6> yang: you mean search for either SEARCH1 or SEARCH2?
<21> hello guys I am trying to install debian sarge stable in a xserie server from IBM 330
<22> yang : use sort
<19> Stew yes
<21> and everything is running good until I start the partitioner phase. :(
<6> yang: egrep "SEARCH1|SEARCH2"
<21> it is not finding any of the scsi disks that the server have
<21> I am not sure if I need to configure the scsi devices or install any patch in order to the kernel 2.6.x can see it.
<21> anyone have any suggestion?
<14> jair: you will need the drivers to tha scsi control...
<0> stew: turns out my co-worker had this exact problem last week
<6> jair: are you using the 2.4 or the 2.6 kernel?
<0> stew: with a different computer
<0> stew: i think the 2.6.15-1-686 kernel compile must be fubar
<6> crookshanks: check the bts
<6> crookshanks: (btw i'm using it here on 4 or so machines with no such problems)
<14> jair: what is your scsi controller?
<0> stew: odd
<0> stew: bts?
<6> !bts
<5> bts is the Bug Tracking System for Debian packages, http://bugs.debian.org/ or to go directly to the bug page for a particular package/bug, try http://bugs.debian.org/packagename or http://bugs.debian.org/bugnumber apt-get install reportbug, and check out querybts too. Unstable users are required to check the BTS, useful for sid: apt-get install apt-listbugs, or apt-get install apt-listchanges, or http://fabre.debian.net/
<0> stew: thanks.
<6> crookshanks: http://bugs.debian.org/linux-source-2.6.15 ; and http://bugs.debian.org/linux-image-2.6.15-1-686
<21> byLeal__: one sec I will go check
<6> crookshanks: or just try a 2.6.16 kernel now that it has hit etch
<21> stew: I am using 2.6
<0> stew: ok, thanks again.
<21> stew: and byLeal__ I know that the server is a x86 PIII and it have an utility for raid and the hard drives are scsi.
<21> stew: byLeal__ but I will go check for the brand of what I see in the bios.
<14> jair: you will need to know what the hardware is... so you can generate a module and load to installation...
<23> hey, do any of you guys have experience with cross-compiling for other architectures? I'm cross-compiling a kernel for an ARM machine and even though the whole GCC operation goes through with no errors, no files are being generated. I'm getting a bunch of empty directories, but no files. Anyone know why?
<14> jair: Are you sure that is not SATA for example?
<14> jair: There are too many SATA controllers that are not recongnized... sorry by the english.
<21> byLeal__: stew here I found a pretty good document about the installation of the caldera Linux. But I want Debian .http://www-307.ibm.com/pc/support/site.wss/document.do?sitestyle=ibm&lndocid=MIGR-39006
<24> Is there any guide on how to do that ?
<24> yrjan: I want to install it FROM windows, because the debian cd doesn't do wireless, perhaps using vmware of some sort, I want to install it on real partition tho
<24> Wow
<21> byLeal__: it is ok they are scsi very sure
<23> #vmware, wietzor
<24> Thanks Unetixs
<23> they know how to play over there ;)
<21> byLeal__: that document I sent have info about the same server but installing other linux version.
<14> jair: well, so with the vendor you can load a driver.
<24> Can I use another livecd to install debian ?
<23> so, nobody knows why I don't get anything except empty directories when I cross-compile my kernel?
<23> wietz0r: don't use a livecd, it's the wrong tool for the job. Use a net install
<14> jair: i have these problems, but with SATA... just make the module and it's done.
<24> Unetixs: I treid with the new debian installer
<23> wietz0r: just get the first disk of the debian install off Jigdo, it's explained in www.debian.org
<23> what's the problem?
<24> Unetixs: It doesn't detect my wireless


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