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<0> Whats the point in forcing testing users to use nv/vesa?
<1> http://www.debian-multimedia.org/pool/main/m/mplayer/ --> i dont understand, if it has mplayer 1.0pre8 then why is apt not pulling it in ?
<2> it's ****ing testing idiot
<2> if you want stable .. use stable
<1> liable: i.e. if he must watch porn urgently
<3> hrm, i think my qemu install has hung :(
<0> Thats no reason to remove nvidia from it
<4> rohan: what does "apt-cache policy mplayer" say for candidate?
<5> omg!
<2> it is if it doesn't work with what was currently in testing
<3> rohan: well, when you need to release, you need to release :P
<1> Installed: 1:1.0-pre7cvs20060430-0.0
<1> Candidate: 1:1.0-pre7cvs20060430-0.0
<6> liable: move the mouse around, or press some keys in it
<1> stew: ^^



<6> liable: that usually speeds things up when it looks to have hung
<4> rohan: that's why its not pulling pre8 in
<1> stew: then do i 'force' it manually ?
<1> or what do i do ? :S
<4> rohan: download the deb and dpkg -i it
<7> hi i have a problem with krdc when i connect with vnc the goes to 100%
<2> solemnwarning: alternately .. don't buy garbage from nvidia
<6> liable: for some reason, qemu seems to hit "rough patches" where it can barely make forward progress
<3> secureboot: tried that, been hanging on 33mins for like 20mins now :(
<8> which is the correct file in /etc to edit to add a line like "alias grep='grep --color=auto'"?
<1> stew: fine, but for for my info, why is it not upgrading mplayer ?
<0> nVidia is not garbage
<6> liable: i had an ubuntu take 40 minutes at one stage
<0> They actually make nice cards
<4> rohan: because a newer one isn't available from your apt source
<3> secureboot: yeah, i'll give it till i wake up tommorow then i'll kill it
<0> And they work when installing the drivers is possible
<6> liable: and it finished fine - not saying it isn't hung, but if you've got time...
<2> too bad they **** over thier users
<0> ZOMG!
<9> is there a good reason that the debian sid kernel is compiled with gcc4 and the current package is 4.1?
<1> stew: oh, then let me try adding d-m.org in place of ftp.nerim.net
<0> They didnt release thier drivers under GPL! Everything they make ****s now!!
<5> <2> solemnwarning: alternately .. don't buy garbage from nvidia <-- what the **** is wrong with you
<5> and I mean all the offence you wanna take, take it
<3> secureboot: it was going good, but it seems a bit stuck now
<4> rohan: d-m.org is currently offering no packages
<10> i seem to be in a situation where upgrading to xorg has many conflicts in /usr/X11R6/bin
<5> thats just a ****ing retarded thing to say
<6> liable: same experience here, with ubuntu
<10> when i try and do an apt-get install xorg that is
<9> solemnwarning if there drivers were lgpl/gpl it would save a lot of h***el
<6> liable: probably the same point in d-i
<2> stoned: no it's not ..
<5> yes it is
<3> secureboot: the thing that worries me is that cpu usage has gone back to idle
<5> and you need to stop being a **** to people
<2> stoned: i'm not advocating ati either
<1> stew: even though i see them .. what is the problem with d-m.rog ?
<1> *org
<3> secureboot: this is a windows install
<4> rohan: its Packages files are missing
<5> it doesn't matter how long you've been here, it also doesn't matter how much you know, you need to quit bieng a ****
<2> stoned: he's whining because testing doesn't have a binary driver ..
<1> stew: oh ok :)
<2> stoned: you're telling me how to act?
<9> stoned why? this channel has a reputation to up hold... abrotman is just doing his part
<5> I said what I had to say
<5> I'm done
<11> lol
<5> I still love you abrotman
<5> :)
<2> stoned: he whines constantly about debian .. i have no idea why he uses it
<9> "I'm done" is a cop out
<2> if your OS doesn't work for you .. find a new one
<5> yeh well **** em, I can't deal with morons either
<2> if you want nvidia drivers to be there always .. use stable .. it's nto a difficult concept
<3> !group hug
<6> liable: ah.
<3> meh



<2> or figure out how to use the nvidia.com installer
<9> debian never works for me...but I'm using sid so I'm asking for trouble :P ...now back to why some newb package maintainer decided to loose sync between the kernel package and the gcc version, it's been four days now and it hasn't been fixed
<4> eps: what exactly are you talking about?
<5> omg
<4> see this is why I avoid non-free drivers, they make people angry :)
<3> secureboot: i think i might have to start agian, but, i'll see how its gone in the morning i guess
<5> abrotman, I see exactly what you mean
<3> secureboot: no big hurry, was just for ****s and giggles anyway
<2> stoned: keep an eye on him .. he does it all the time .. you'll figure it out :)
<5> word
<3> secureboot: but now i am gonna have to work out why the ****er wont work :)
<9> kernel 2.6.16-1-686(-20) and 2.6.16-2-686(-14) are compiled with gcc4.0 while the current sid version of gcc is 4.1 which is making installing nvidia a complete bitch...renaming all the sym links AGAIN (I should write a script to do it for me)
<6> liable: do you use kqemu?
<9> note those kernels are current (as off I just tried updating them all again today...and using nv as a driver is a pain as I only get like 60hz instead of 75)
<4> eps: a new version of 2.6.16-1 is never going to be uploaded to debian now that 2.6.16-2 is available
<5> I have a 32mb old nvidia card running nvidia drivers on sarge and it works just the way it should
<3> secureboot: no, i only just tried this cause someone else was talking about it earlier, so i thought i would give it a burl. have been meaning to try it, but never really gotten around to it
<12> hello~
<5> dvcoa, hi
<9> stew note I've already tried with current -2 and it's the same problem
<6> liable: kinda fun though. The linux installs are super-easy, and let you play around with things like hula with impunity.
<12> I was wondering when you using ssh terminal putty, does the keep alive option work?
<9> and I REALLY want to avoid renaming all the sym links...and I REALLY want to get onto eve online before bed tonight to train a skill and I need direct rendering for that :|
<2> stoned: that's kind of my point
<3> secureboot: yeah, i have no idea what the hell i am gonna do with a windows install... but i spose its just something to play with till i find the next thing :)
<12> is there anybody know how not to logout automatically when idling.
<12> ?
<5> you don't
<9> dvcoa turn off screen saver?
<5> oh that thing, yeah, SS
<9> logout or get a locked screen?
<4> eps: ask #debian-kernel on irc.oftc.net about when a 4.1 compiled kernel will be available. but why can't you just compile nvidia with gcc-4.0 like the kenrel?
<13> has anybody compiled mod_ntlm2 using apxs
<9> they are two different things
<5> optionally remove the xscreensaver package i think
<12> eps / logouted.
<5> dvcoa, correct grammar would be, logged out
<5> :)
<12> thanks.
<5> np
<9> stew because I don't want to change the sym links of all the gcc, g++ etc binaries to the gcc4 ones from gcc4.1
<9> unless there is a nice simple way that I don't know?
<3> secureboot: its still using a wee bit of cpu, but thats prolly just the silly windows advertising it does whilst it installs
<2> dvcoa: is it logging you out or killing X ?
<4> eps: no you should never change those symlinks, just export CC=/usr/bin/gcc-4.0 ; export HOSTCC=/usr/bin/gcc-4.0
<1> is debian-marillat repo superseded by d-m.org ? or they both remain 'valid' ? since if christian maintains d-m.org then he is kind of 'ignoring' debian-marillat repo right ?
<13> has anybody compiled mod_ntlm2 using apxs
<6> liable: ha... it may be the virtualized disk access that's taking so long - in that case, little cpu would be used
<5> I think it might be a lock screen thing, he might see it as being logged out
<12> abrotman : logged me out
<5> hmm
<3> rohan: i think they both work for now, but its moving over
<9> thanks stew, had always wondered how to do that :P (time to boot back to -2)
<1> liable: i.e. the 'main' repo is becoming d-m.org ?
<12> abrotman : and just terminated the putty window.
<3> rohan: for marillat? yeah, i think so
<4> eps: sorry, i didn't get which symlinks you were talking about at first, i figured it was some nvidia installer thingy
<1> liable: oh ok
<9> stew thanks man, will save me lots of time in future :D
<9> bbs
<2> dvcoa: wait .. is it X or just a terminal ?
<3> secureboot: ****it, i just killed it..
<5> or is it a remote login?
<2> i used to have a mahcine that after 10 minutes .. the DPMS would kick on .. and the machine couldn't handle it .. and it would crash X
<2> (well .. still have it .. but no X now)
<12> abrotman : it is a ssh terminal.
<2> dvcoa: that's probably a router in between
<14> hi, im running sarge, whats the best way to get kde 3.5 installed?
<5> !tell junir about backports
<5> there might be an updated repository or kde 3.5.1 at deb.stosberg.net
<5> junir, check deb.stosberg.net as well
<12> abrotman : the putty has a option which is keep alive, it would send a packet not to lost connetion.
<5> junir, I believe backports.org only has 3.5.0


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