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Comments:
<0> bah
<1> abrotman, yes
<0> -colorspace Gray
<2> Which is this material?
<0> -modulate 100,-1 worked too but doesn't seem logical :/
<3> Pakety: what is what material?
<4> i'm giving a demo to a bunch of tech-coordinators on installing debian but i only have one hour... i want to put all the latest security updates on a cd so it doesn't have to download them - is that possible?
<5> Pakety: have you installed Linux yet?
<6> What I call typical linux problem : how can i remove gnome-system-tools as its giving error when i want to install kdenetworkconf. However when i try to remove it by apt or synaptic I can't remove it becaus it wants to install the kdenetworkconf first.. how do i get out of this circle?
<7> parsek_77: make them owned by root?
<8> hueh, thanks
<0> Troebadoer: apt-get -f isntall should fix kdenetthing and remove gnome-thing too
<8> hueh, is it the only solution?
<9> is there a way to export unix users to sqlbased or ldap based authentication?
<10> anyone know if there is a key for debian unofficial?
<6> not realy
<11> when will udev 0.084-5 be available via apt?
<12> Ungy, most official repos all have different keys.
<2> Therefore it is not this that I am trying to make? Only necessary of a clearer explanation, therefore I want to install Linux and Windows in one alone HD?
<6> gomox that would want to install the kdenetworkconf again that can't be installed aslong as this gnome-system-tools is there.. that i can't seem to remove aslong as knetworkconf ain't installed
<3> Pakety: yes you can dual boot windowx and linux
<13> Mike3: try without -smp
<14> falco_toadfoot: now
<15> hmm, all versions of debian i have tried refuses to recognize the other processor... really getting annoyed
<11> chealer: aptitude still shows 0.084-4 as the newest version
<11> I _just_ updated
<15> and, yes i have smp opteron kernel
<2> How and either I specify well?
<7> parsek_77: I think so - why are you trying to stop users changing permissions?
<3> Pakety: may i suggest a debian channel in your native tongue?
<12> !br
<16> Esse canal e apenas em ingles. Por favor, use #debian-br (/j #debian-br) para ajuda em portugues.
<3> Pakety: install windows first, leave free space for debian, tell debian to install to free space (basically)
<1> abrotman, you mean try installing the kernel-image-2.6.8-2-686 2.6.8-16sarge1 rather than kernel-image-2.6.8-2-686-smp 2.6.8-16sarge1
<17> has anyone used exim and debian?
<11> chealer: should I use some specific mirror in /etc/apt/sources.list?
<11> kippi: yes
<17> falco_toadfoot: I am getting this error, any ideas why? Unrouteable address
<2> Debtor
<11> kippi: what are you trying to do?
<12> kippi, exim is part of the debian base install. therefore most debian users use exim.
<17> falco_toadfoot: send an test e-mail
<17> falco_toadfoot: I am just trying to set it up
<11> kippi: have you set up exim correctly with the dpkg-reconfigure exim4-config?
<2> it looks at I I wanted to say to it very obliged
<18> Hi everyone - my email server is SuSE9.3. I recently installed debian on a home server and I've got to say I'm very impressed. Is there any kind of a 'best practices'/guide thing for migrating to a new distro?
<12> kippi, setting it up for what?
<17> Eulex: external mail
<1> abrotman, does this make any sense to you...im sending you a msg
<1> using the name megaraid (not megaraid2). This will cause the wrong
<1> megaraid driver to be present on the initrd.
<1> A work around is to add a line with megaraid2 to
<1> (ie. On tty2, after the installation of mkinitrd and before the
<1> sorry
<12> kippi, umh... to 'connect' it to an external smtp and pop3 server?
<1> MSG abrotman are you there
<6> it even gets funier : can't remove kde becaus i don't have knetworkconf
<19> :)
<11> chealer: just updated package list again from ftp.debian.org..still 0.084-4 shows up as the newest version
<2> thank you!!!!!!!
<17> I want to be able to send and recive mail to my box
<2> :)
<6> but then again my car won't start when its dark outside aswell
<14> falco_toadfoot: I don't think you can get packages from incoming via APT without special privileges. just download the deb manually
<11> kippi: maybe you should use imaps?
<4> i'm giving a demo to a bunch of tech-coordinators on installing debian but i only have one hour... i want to put all the latest security updates on a cd so it doesn't have to download them - is that possible?
<11> chealer: that's the problem..I don't know where to get it :p
<14> !tell falco_toadfoot about incoming
<17> hmm now getting all relevant MX records point to non-existent hosts
<11> chealer: thanks, again :)
<4> please
<20> lo. has there been any reports of sid / official 2.6.15 kernel not booting anymore ?
<13> Mike3: kind of :)
<19> kippi: http://talk.trekweb.com/~jasonb/articles/exim_maildir_imap.shtml
<13> Mike3: yes .. try the non-smp one
<21> TTimo: /msg dpkg bts
<1> abrotman, k ill try now
<17> Azar: thanks
<20> yeah the bts doesn't carry anything useful at this point
<19> shale, no security updates come via apt-get on a ready installed Debian
<20> there was some udev bug yesterday / got fixed this morning which looked close to the problem, but no go
<19> shale, one hour it is not enough to train a bunch of people
<4> thank you Azar
<3> Azar: it is though to give a demo
<4> who said anything about train? I just want to show them the install process.
<22> Azar: for stable, you can enable security updates when installing debian
<20> actually, if there's a place somewhere that explains in understandable terms this whole initramfs insanity in the recent kernels, I'd gladly go read it to try understanding why it's screwed up like that
<19> shale: basic demo: installation, apt HOWTO, kernel upgrade.
<19> SerajewelKS: ah there is an auto update ?
<20> kernel lists my IDE drives, and two lines later bumps me up saying /dev/hda1 doesn't exist
<4> i plan to just run through the install, enable samba, and show them how to access it from another puder.
<22> Azar: what?
<12> shale, not many packages in the base install have been affected by security updates. if you really can't afford downloading at most a few megs, set up apt-cacher on a server and let them point their sources.lists to it.
<4> "mission critical debian file server"
<22> Azar: i'm talking about the netinstall
<23> TTimo: sounds a lot like udev breakage
<19> SerajewelKS: ah I see
<20> yeah it does
<4> Eulex: apt-cacher ?
<20> I was following http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=352753
<12> !apt-cacher
<16> i guess apt-cacher is a caching proxy designed specifically for use by Apt. at http://www.apt-cacher.org/, or a nifty tool
<22> shale: just use the netinstall, it will ask you if you want to enable security updates before it installs packages
<20> which may or may not be my problem
<4> SerajewelKS the netinstl takes too long
<20> still, I got the "fixed" one installed, and reinstalled a fresh kernel with an initramfs generation
<20> still broken
<24> udev + 2.6 really bites, for me and my addin controller card
<4> thx Eulex, i'll look into apt-cacher when their site is back up
<12> shale, with apt-cacher, you will just have to download the security updates once.
<19> shale since system packages installations are handled by apt you should read and teach your people what is made of, how it works and how to use it. wgets (net installations) are not very used in these situations
<23> TTimo: are you getting a shell, or is it just panicing?
<24> TTimo: 2.6 module loading order or something perhaps. vorlon explained it to me very well
<20> yeah shell
<12> shale, it's pretty easy to set up, btw.
<20> the early busybox one .. the one you can't do anything useful with except reboot :)
<23> TTimo: lsmod may be helpful, then.. you may need to modprobe/mount some stuff before you can get that, though :x
<4> Azar: i don't want to teach 'em anything ;) ..... just let them watch the process so they can get a glimpse at the non-Macintosh world.
<1> abrotman, i put the error message in the other window
<12> shale, http://pdo.debian.net/stable/net/apt-cacher
<13> Mike3: other window?
<11> TinoW: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=352753
<11> maybe?
<20> yeah that's the one I pasted above
<11> oh, sorry
<1> abrotman, I just sent a DCC chat request
<11> TTimo: didn't 0.084-5 solve it?
<20> jetscreamer, as I understand you're hitting the same thing ?
<13> Mike3: i didn't get it .. use #flood
<12> !dcc
<16> dcc is, like, a protocol used for sending files on IRC. <asuffield> I suggest burning all people who offer dcc connections, or The Distributed Checksum Clearinghouse or DCC is a cooperative, distributed system intended to detect "bulk" mail or mail sent to many people. http://www.rhyolite.com/anti-spam/dcc/, or see <dcc alliance>
<19> shale just a quickie: http://os.newsforge.com/os/04/12/02/1710208.shtml?tid=130
<20> well I'm not sure .. since I have never found documentation on the initramfs crapolata .. once I upgrade udev, I need to build a new initramfs ?
<25> when I use kaffe, all my browser applications become crazy
<25> doesnt shows applet java
<23> TTimo: i think dpkg-reconfigure on the kernel package will rebuild the initramfs
<25> Thats why I dont want to use kave
<25> kaffe
<1> abrotman, ok i put it in flood
<20> is it at all possible to not use the initramfs crap, like old school initrd only ?
<25> I really prefer native java
<23> TTimo: check timestamps though
<4> Azar thank you
<25> but to install openoffice.org 2, is necessary to install kaffe
<25> What to do ??
<26> why wireless-toolkit has non-standar version
<19> shale, you are welcome
<13> Mike3: in 2.6 .. i don't think it's called megaraid2 anymore
<26> I mean strange 27+28 I cant configure app that depend on 28pre6
<12> Usiu, no such thing in debian at all
<25> Is there a solution ?
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