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<0> you can use make-kpkg to compile on another machine
<1> might have to try that
<1> have a much faster one at home
<2> on cmp /dev/cdrom /home/burn/data.iso I'm getting "cmp: EOF on /home/burn/data.iso" is this 'normal'?
<3> is there a debian equivalent to "rpm --checksig" to make sure installed binaries/libraries meet the md5 of the originals? i've trying to clean up a root-kitted box.
<4> what is lncurses? i am trying to compile xterm. here's some debug: gcc -m32 -o resize -g -O2 -fno-strict-aliasing -L/usr/X11R6/lib resize.o xstrings.o -lncurses /usr/bin/ld: cannot find lncurses
<5> why does 'fdisk -l' not show a list of partitions in Debian ????
<6> displague: no, md5sums might help though
<7> Wanderer: then dont compile on the laptop
<6> displague: debsums that is
<7> I always roll all my kernels on the fastest machine in a screen session with kernel-package and fakeroot
<6> justletters: /msg dpkg ncurses
<7> distribute them through samba or ssh or something
<7> apache if I have it running
<8> justletters: why are you trying to compile xterm?
<4> stew: recompiling it with ctrl+c ctrl+v support
<4> you know..
<9> which binary package contains the KDE desktop
<10> justletters: for what do you need that?
<9> as in the actual 'desktop'
<11> is there a (text based) program that shows bandwidth utilization in kb/s per network interface?
<10> amee2k: iftop
<12> ntop ?
<4> jfs. if I want to copy and paste to other things from xterm!! ofcourse. i need that. i am a needy maann. so .but i get more compile errors now
<6> xterm supports that out of the box, use ****+insert
<12> justletters: or you could mark and paste as nature intended
<8> justletters: run "apt-get build-dep xterm" then
<3> jm_: at one point both tar and md5sum were hacked.. I scped a copy of busybox to /tmp to give myself a working tar and used dpkg -x to get back a number of things (there was a good lot in /var/cache/apt). ofcourse, i had to debugfs most of the evil files. chkroot still tells me something may be compromised - but i'm not sure what, and it's not telling..
<11> ty
<10> justletters: you can do that without the windows shortcuts, just select text and press third mouse (or mouse 1+2 at the same moment if you simulate a 3 button mouse) to paste
<12> displague: Blow the machine away?
<9> ah, nevermind, my problem is already in the BTS
<4> jm_ no not my xterm. but it works with gnome-terminal
<12> /msg dpkg mark and paste
<6> displague: boot from a CD or somesuch and compar ethings
<4> hey what does build-dep do?
<6> justletters: WFM
<10> wfm?
<6> !wfm
<13> [wfm] Works for Me, or some strange corruption of hopwfm, or what ****ing manual?
<8> justletters: installs the packages required for building said package (if you had run that it would have install the ncurses libraries for you)
<3> resiak: most of the evil has been driven out. plus i don't like reinstalling when fixing is a possibility.
<4> oh. handy :)
<3> resiak: i still have an uptime of above 1 - which is bothersome... a quickcam program is constantly probbing, so i am hoping that is all it is...
<12> displague: You'll probably miss something
<3> jm_: it's a remote systems that belongs to a friend...
<6> displague: the only proper way to do it though
<3> resiak: i agree - that's why i'm looking for md5sums
<12> displague: You'll probably miss something, so why not just blow it away and restore the data?
<0> debsums ?
<14> hi, i am running debian 3.1 and i have a question about the wireless indicator on my T42
<0> so ask!
<15> is encfs regarded as a secure method?
<0> method of what?
<14> The wireless works fine and connects using WPA PSK but the wireless indicator doesnt glow. It does glow in XP
<0> bhasker: the little one below the LCD ?
<14> abrotman: yes
<0> bhasker: afaik .. tha'ts a hardware function .. perhaps the driver doesn't know how to turn the light on(though the one on my G40 works)
<15> i mean is it crackable/decryptable or can i relay on it for being a secure place to put my files?
<3> resiak: i like to think i can be thorough when needed.. at one point ps and top were hacked and i couldn't see the eggdrops - but that has since been resolved and i can atleast see that nothing bad is running actively as a process.. i'm still curious about remnant files, libraries, and kernel modules...
<0> dorel: given time .. everything is decryptable
<5> why does 'fdisk -l' not show a list of partitions in Debian ????
<3> abrotman: that's what jm_ recommended. i was looking for a rpm --checksigs alternative
<0> deeler: did you specify a device
<0> displague: debsums ?
<0> !info debsums sarge
<6> displague: I also said there's no similar thing in Debian
<9> dorel: i use encfs daily
<14> abrotman : does this have anything to do with the madwifi driver version ? i am uiing 0.9.4.12, is your version the same ?
<9> dorel: everything is secure to some extent until a vulnerability is found. google encfs vulnerabilities
<0> bhasker: mine isn't madwifi .. mine is orinoco
<0> bhasker: though .. you may wish to ask #madwifi .. they may know ..
<14> abrotman: thanks i will try to post them a query
<0> bhasker: though .. IIRC .. they have a decent wiki also
<0> dpkg: hi
<13> que tal
<0> wtf
<14> ok
<5> abrotman, no, but in most other distros, it show all, even the devices that do not have a partition, i find it usefull to check on what drive a usbdrive is mapped .....
<0> deeler: fdisk -l /dev/hda ... etc
<15> abrotman: given time even RSA can be cracked, but this time is in numbers of billions of years.
<0> i doubt billions .. let LLNL have a crack at it :)
<15> abrotman: so i'm talking in general, is it a secure method of encrypting files/fs?
<0> dorel: SerajewelKS said he uses it every day
<0> afaik .. it's fine .. but he may know more
<15> abrotman: RSA is literally uncrackable
<15> ahh thanks ill check with him maybe
<0> dorel: nothing is uncrackable
<16> i get i "sorry, no mixer elements and/or devices found" but i can hear sound, whats the problem?
<3> jm_: a number of packes don't have md5sums available.. like base-files, initscripts, and alot of really important ones (ed, sed, at, modutils, netbase, ...)
<0> dorel: except oracle! ... :)
<2> on cmp /dev/cdrom /home/burn/data.iso I'm getting "cmp: EOF on /home/burn/data.iso" is this 'normal', was the brun successfull??
<15> even with all of the processing power of computers in the world it would take a universe time to crack
<15> lol, yeah and mysql :)
<0> displague: http://pdo.debian.net/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?searchon=names&version=all&exact=1&keywords=debsums
<12> dorel: Do you have anything you could cite to back up that ***ertion?
<15> ofcourse it's crackable. but it would take too long. when i say uncrackable i refer to it as taking too long that it would not be useful in 100 years from now.
<17> hello all can someone ssh me if its working please
<15> resiak: yeah, the encryption itself. you can read about it.
<0> dorel: that's not a valid ***ertion
<0> bliss_: you can try it
<15> resiak: im talking about rsa with public private keys as stated by the diffie hellman method
<12> dorel: Like abrotman says, your ***ertion is (I'm fairly sure) false
<15> sure it is
<18> if you type into a textbox and a listbox appears ABOVE it, which entry would you expect to highlight by pressing the up arrow?
<12> dorel: so you should back it up
<0> sparr: the top most one? the bottom most one?
<15> i can back it up, question is if you know what is rsa. if you don't how it works then you should read it up.
<3> abrotman: i ran debsums -c and the output said that the packages listed above did not have md5sums available.. is that normal for those packages? i am apt-get --reinstall'ing them now (i may have overridden some of them with dpkg -x, but i don't think that would destroy any md5sum records)
<12> dorel: Yes, I know what it is
<18> abrotman: i was hoping for a more specific answer :)
<0> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RSA
<8> dorel: RSA keys as large as 512 bits have been cracked, since you didnt' specify a key length when you made your claim, i claim that this invalidates your claim
<0> dorel: we're aware of what RSA is .. if you think that's unbreakable .. you're fooling yourself
<17> for my own machine yes no problem but at work i have putty on windows and it times out
<15> lol
<12> dorel: If you have a long enough key, then it... what stew says
<15> ofcourse it's all about the length of keys.
<12> Right, we know that.
<15> every cipher is measured that way except for quantum encryption
<15> so what im saying is that i can encrypt something with thousands of bits of key length and you'll never crack it within the next billion years
<15> that claim is ofcourse with the current technology.
<0> i beg to differ
<8> dorel: its not true that every cipher is as strong as its key length
<16> can somebody help me with my problem i wrote earlier?
<19> how can I change the look of TCL/Tk applications? (Is there some skin file like in GTK or QT?)
<18> stew: it is, given no further knowledge of the plaintext or key
<15> then you need to check your facts abrotman.
<15> stew: not every, just some.
<0> they've ****ed 512 .. 1024 is questionable .. timing attacks are there(though supposedly not useful anymore) .. if you think 2048 is some golden apple .. you're wrong
<17> RSA rules ok 2048 bits is the best
<20> when I double click a url in redhat, it selects the whole url, when I do the same on debian, only what is between '/' is selected? what determines the string selected by a double click?
<15> abrotman seriously, you should consult some more books
<0> cr3: in waht?!
<21> may anybody take the time to explain mcast routing to me?
<18> RSA-2^googolplex == uncrackable
<9> when generating gpg keys i typically pick 4096 ;)
<17> IDEA
<0> dorel: i don't have to ... you need to think about logistics .. it's only a matter of time .. they used to think a 128 key was good enough
<9> sparr: until computers get fast enough and support hardware bigints
<20> abrotman: it could be any installation, it doesn't matter that it's another distro.
<0> cr3: i meant what app :)
<15> googleplex HEH
<20> abrotman: oh, I thought that was the beginning of a distro war :)
<20> abrotman: xterm
<0> oh .. click it three times?
<18> dorel: ever heard of moore's law? RSA with 65536 keys will be broken in a few decades, tops. it wont stop.
<0> sparr: LIAR! .. i burn your brains with stupid claims!
<20> abrotman: that does the whole line, but I just want the whole url or what is delimited by spaces.
<18> 65536 bit
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