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<0> !gtk theme <0> pengol: apt-cache search gtk theme switch <1> JNelson, humm you could use the backported kernel from backports.org if you not eady to face the udev issues yet. <2> damn, that's getting messy <3> tarzeau: firefox is linked with /usr/lib/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0 <4> Koffa: well certainly you want to maintain seperated traffic or are you trying to load balance the 3 as a WAN <0> pengol: why do you tell me? i hate firefox <3> tarzeau: can gtk-theme-switch be used for gtk 2.0? <3> tarzeau: it looks like a gtk1 app to me <0> pengol: it has two different apps for both crap gtk settings <0> s/crap/inconsistent/ <5> sorry to interrupt, but are 802.11g card driver easy to find? <3> tarzeau: wow <6> depends on which chipset <2> do you think I could get away with a forced updated of udev? <1> IEEE1003, depends entierly on the card chipset
<7> anyone has installed imp4 on debian? <8> konfuzed: first separated, on some point some load balancing/whatever (probably leave one connection for ssh only etc) <4> IEEE1003: go with PRISM <8> but now to work, afk 30min -> <9> IEEE1003: where on amazon.com ? <10> in which .deb is XML::Parser <4> Koffa: you'll need some firewall acrobatics to make that work right I believe <5> what is PRISM <9> IEEE1003: I still use 802.11b <4> PRISM CHIPSET <6> prism chipset <8> konfuzed: the first step is to get the ifaces up nicely :) <0> hahaha KDE ****s <5> oh <8> konfuzed: no matter what I try to do after that <3> tarzeau: it doesn't work with fonts <6> what brand did you bought from <11> memic: libxml-parser-perl <0> our users run into quota because KDE apps write so much crap into .xsession-error that gets larger than 100 mb! <10> \amethyst thx <0> pengol: yes it works, but you don't know how <9> memic: apt-cache search xml|grep parser <0> pengol: but it's understandable because the graphical user interface to change the font is horrible <3> tarzeau: maybe I need to restart X <4> Koffa: just because each card is a seperate line with dhcp doesnt mean you have to use dhcp <6> anyone know touch: setting times of `ptrace.h': Operation not permitted <5> I didn't buy a card yet, it's just that my mom is going to buy one for me <0> pengol: maybe you just need to click all things that you see and find out where it is <9> tarzeau: been there, deleted that. <4> setting static lan addresses would simplify your life greatly <12> tarzeau that would happen only with gnome or kde right? <0> pengol: and maybe you should forget that this is NOT WINDOWS <6> how to solve it? touch: setting times of `ptrace.h': Operation not permitted <10> hm already installed <0> pengol: restarting **** won't help you! <3> tarzeau: true :) <3> was a checkbox <0> kevix: still it ****s. no way to turn that off? <4> IEEE1003: dont get anything else besides a PRISM chipset, PRISM III if you can find it <0> Azar: it never happened to me with GNUstep software <5> OK, thx <0> Azar: it was logging the same **** millions of times (kile) <12> tarzeau, I only run openbox <3> there it is <3> thanks tarzeau <6> or RT2500 <3> tarzeau: but firefox still suks <12> pengol, try "links" :) <0> pengol: i agree <0> Azar: or links2 or dillo <9> tarzeau: dont know. maybe its a debug setting left ON. <12> yes yes <6> actually, different chipset has their related linux driver project <0> kevix: i don't bother enough to find out <0> kevix: we don't support gnome or kde here, luckily <3> tarzeau: all apps changed fonts except firefox <0> kevix: alone the migration from woody gnome/kde to sarge was PAINFUL <9> tarzeau: I just started using 'twin' <0> pengol: firefox ****s, didn't i tell you? stop bothering me <13> may as well recommend elinks while we're at it <0> ootput: doesn't do graphics
<0> ootput: and the keyboard navigation is kinda ugly in forms <13> kevix: that's an interesting Window manager <3> ok <3> sorry <4> Koffa: that would also make your competeing default gateway moot and then it will always stay the way you set it <3> Azar: sometimes it's needed <4> way simpler <13> Azar: it renders badly (structurally) without the image <9> ootput: it could use a bit more polish but it seems ok. <5> all these problems with GUIs... linux wasn't mean't for GUIs <14> firefox r0x0rs lolz! <0> IEEE1003: not all GUIs make problems <12> hahaha liable <0> IEEE1003: debian is not just linux <13> Opera is where it's at <5> hmmm... <2> damn, looks like the onlyw ay to do this is with backports <2> of the kerenl <0> ootput: it's not free software <13> tarzeau: free beer <15> Oracle bought Sleepycat, the company behind Berkeley DB. <0> ootput: is not worth much <15> Hm, old news? <14> dont start with the free beer ****.. <13> liable: haha <9> IEEE1003: gnu is about freedom and choices. <4> IEEE1003: I could be wrong but I think both kde and gnome were around before linux <0> ootput: not worht anything if i can't run opera on hurd or kfreebsd <14> i *hate* that anaology <11> konfuzed: are you serious? <4> please feel free to flame me oon that one <5> hope not... <5> ? <13> tarzeau: i usually use whatever works best on whichever OS <11> konfuzed: KDE and Gnome came about in the mid-late 90s <4> X-Windows was certainly around before linux <11> yes <11> X was <0> !xwindows <16> well, xwindows is NOT the name of it. It's simply called X, X11, The X Window System, X11R6, etc. Do a "man X" for more. < Zxcvb> X + KDE/Gnome + Codeweavers Wine == X-windows, or ask me about x windows trap <11> since 1984, same year as the Mac <0> ootput: so do i, it just ****s to have so much hardware around <4> SUSE didnt start KDE did they? <0> konfuzed: no <5> the free version is called Xfree86 <4> both outa germany and all <13> konfuzed: not at all <4> unles i m konfuzed there <13> it was mandrake <5> stop using your username as pun <4> IEEE1003: its too truthful <11> KDE was around 2 years before Mandrake <13> aha, got one <5> when did the first UNIX come out? <4> i dont really like guis either so I always avoided them <0> IEEE1003: long long ago <4> 1960s <12> 1965? <5> what about POSIX standard?? <11> IEEE1003: late sixties to mid seventies, depending on how closely you want it to look like modern Unix <13> 1969 <0> IEEE1003: http://www.levenez.com/ <11> POSIX is 1980s <17> 1974 (it was actually the year I was born, but what really significant happened before that?) <0> IEEE1003: he has a unix history diagram <13> an appropriate year <11> IEEE1003: do you know how to use wikipedia? <0> IEEE1003: 1969 <13> http://www.faqs.org/docs/artu/ch02s01.html <5> yes... <15> tarzeau: Ah that longish picture. <0> IEEE1003: and it was called UNICS <18> hi. what kernel does Etch "ship" with?
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