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<0> !gtk theme
<0> pengol: apt-cache search gtk theme switch
<1> JNelson, humm you could use the backported kernel from backports.org if you not eady to face the udev issues yet.
<2> damn, that's getting messy
<3> tarzeau: firefox is linked with /usr/lib/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0
<4> Koffa: well certainly you want to maintain seperated traffic or are you trying to load balance the 3 as a WAN
<0> pengol: why do you tell me? i hate firefox
<3> tarzeau: can gtk-theme-switch be used for gtk 2.0?
<3> tarzeau: it looks like a gtk1 app to me
<0> pengol: it has two different apps for both crap gtk settings
<0> s/crap/inconsistent/
<5> sorry to interrupt, but are 802.11g card driver easy to find?
<3> tarzeau: wow
<6> depends on which chipset
<2> do you think I could get away with a forced updated of udev?
<1> IEEE1003, depends entierly on the card chipset



<7> anyone has installed imp4 on debian?
<8> konfuzed: first separated, on some point some load balancing/whatever (probably leave one connection for ssh only etc)
<4> IEEE1003: go with PRISM
<8> but now to work, afk 30min ->
<9> IEEE1003: where on amazon.com ?
<10> in which .deb is XML::Parser
<4> Koffa: you'll need some firewall acrobatics to make that work right I believe
<5> what is PRISM
<9> IEEE1003: I still use 802.11b
<4> PRISM CHIPSET
<6> prism chipset
<8> konfuzed: the first step is to get the ifaces up nicely :)
<0> hahaha KDE ****s
<5> oh
<8> konfuzed: no matter what I try to do after that
<3> tarzeau: it doesn't work with fonts
<6> what brand did you bought from
<11> memic: libxml-parser-perl
<0> our users run into quota because KDE apps write so much crap into .xsession-error that gets larger than 100 mb!
<10> \amethyst thx
<0> pengol: yes it works, but you don't know how
<9> memic: apt-cache search xml|grep parser
<0> pengol: but it's understandable because the graphical user interface to change the font is horrible
<3> tarzeau: maybe I need to restart X
<4> Koffa: just because each card is a seperate line with dhcp doesnt mean you have to use dhcp
<6> anyone know touch: setting times of `ptrace.h': Operation not permitted
<5> I didn't buy a card yet, it's just that my mom is going to buy one for me
<0> pengol: maybe you just need to click all things that you see and find out where it is
<9> tarzeau: been there, deleted that.
<4> setting static lan addresses would simplify your life greatly
<12> tarzeau that would happen only with gnome or kde right?
<0> pengol: and maybe you should forget that this is NOT WINDOWS
<6> how to solve it? touch: setting times of `ptrace.h': Operation not permitted
<10> hm already installed
<0> pengol: restarting **** won't help you!
<3> tarzeau: true :)
<3> was a checkbox
<0> kevix: still it ****s. no way to turn that off?
<4> IEEE1003: dont get anything else besides a PRISM chipset, PRISM III if you can find it
<0> Azar: it never happened to me with GNUstep software
<5> OK, thx
<0> Azar: it was logging the same **** millions of times (kile)
<12> tarzeau, I only run openbox
<3> there it is
<3> thanks tarzeau
<6> or RT2500
<3> tarzeau: but firefox still suks
<12> pengol, try "links" :)
<0> pengol: i agree
<0> Azar: or links2 or dillo
<9> tarzeau: dont know. maybe its a debug setting left ON.
<12> yes yes
<6> actually, different chipset has their related linux driver project
<0> kevix: i don't bother enough to find out
<0> kevix: we don't support gnome or kde here, luckily
<3> tarzeau: all apps changed fonts except firefox
<0> kevix: alone the migration from woody gnome/kde to sarge was PAINFUL
<9> tarzeau: I just started using 'twin'
<0> pengol: firefox ****s, didn't i tell you? stop bothering me
<13> may as well recommend elinks while we're at it
<0> ootput: doesn't do graphics



<0> ootput: and the keyboard navigation is kinda ugly in forms
<13> kevix: that's an interesting Window manager
<3> ok
<3> sorry
<4> Koffa: that would also make your competeing default gateway moot and then it will always stay the way you set it
<3> Azar: sometimes it's needed
<4> way simpler
<13> Azar: it renders badly (structurally) without the image
<9> ootput: it could use a bit more polish but it seems ok.
<5> all these problems with GUIs... linux wasn't mean't for GUIs
<14> firefox r0x0rs lolz!
<0> IEEE1003: not all GUIs make problems
<12> hahaha liable
<0> IEEE1003: debian is not just linux
<13> Opera is where it's at
<5> hmmm...
<2> damn, looks like the onlyw ay to do this is with backports
<2> of the kerenl
<0> ootput: it's not free software
<13> tarzeau: free beer
<15> Oracle bought Sleepycat, the company behind Berkeley DB.
<0> ootput: is not worth much
<15> Hm, old news?
<14> dont start with the free beer ****..
<13> liable: haha
<9> IEEE1003: gnu is about freedom and choices.
<4> IEEE1003: I could be wrong but I think both kde and gnome were around before linux
<0> ootput: not worht anything if i can't run opera on hurd or kfreebsd
<14> i *hate* that anaology
<11> konfuzed: are you serious?
<4> please feel free to flame me oon that one
<5> hope not...
<5> ?
<13> tarzeau: i usually use whatever works best on whichever OS
<11> konfuzed: KDE and Gnome came about in the mid-late 90s
<4> X-Windows was certainly around before linux
<11> yes
<11> X was
<0> !xwindows
<16> well, xwindows is NOT the name of it. It's simply called X, X11, The X Window System, X11R6, etc. Do a "man X" for more. < Zxcvb> X + KDE/Gnome + Codeweavers Wine == X-windows, or ask me about x windows trap
<11> since 1984, same year as the Mac
<0> ootput: so do i, it just ****s to have so much hardware around
<4> SUSE didnt start KDE did they?
<0> konfuzed: no
<5> the free version is called Xfree86
<4> both outa germany and all
<13> konfuzed: not at all
<4> unles i m konfuzed there
<13> it was mandrake
<5> stop using your username as pun
<4> IEEE1003: its too truthful
<11> KDE was around 2 years before Mandrake
<13> aha, got one
<5> when did the first UNIX come out?
<4> i dont really like guis either so I always avoided them
<0> IEEE1003: long long ago
<4> 1960s
<12> 1965?
<5> what about POSIX standard??
<11> IEEE1003: late sixties to mid seventies, depending on how closely you want it to look like modern Unix
<13> 1969
<0> IEEE1003: http://www.levenez.com/
<11> POSIX is 1980s
<17> 1974 (it was actually the year I was born, but what really significant happened before that?)
<0> IEEE1003: he has a unix history diagram
<13> an appropriate year
<11> IEEE1003: do you know how to use wikipedia?
<0> IEEE1003: 1969
<13> http://www.faqs.org/docs/artu/ch02s01.html
<5> yes...
<15> tarzeau: Ah that longish picture.
<0> IEEE1003: and it was called UNICS
<18> hi. what kernel does Etch "ship" with?


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