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<0> pipeline, jnc, the no initrd one outputs this: not syncing:VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(8,5), that is, /dev/sda5
<1> Howdy everyone! :)
<2> Rizzer, wlan0 No scan results
<3> startingx, then .. sorry.
<4> anabain: mmhm
<5> tienchi: hey no need for sorry man...
<6> jnc ; file_exists(/proc/ide/hda/capacity) the file does not exist on your machine when i upgrade kernel 2.4 to 2.6 debian sarge. why?
<7> d03boy_: so the driver is running fine then
<4> i don't know
<0> jnc, and when restoring / in reiserfs, it works!!! weird
<5> tienchi: anyway i noticed that mousedev is missing from my system...
<3> startingx, so you can not startx now??
<8> !popcon
<9> rumour has it, popcon is the Debian Popularity contest. See results at http://popcon.debian.org/ or install popularity-contest to participate. do the dpkg-reconfigure -plow popularity-contest right after you answered all debconf stuff
<2> Rizzer, yeah I guess... it should be detecting some networks though, ya know?



<10> d03boy_: is the interface up? (ifconfig wlan0 up)
<7> d03boy_: "fine" modulo jnc's comments I guess
<6> doest`t exist /proc/ide/hda/capacity
<5> tienchi: i can startx and type my user and p*** just fine but i can't move the mouse pointer
<6> hwo to fix it?
<2> POVaddct, it returned without errors
<11> hi
<7> d03boy_: the access points are working right now? they haven't shut them down for Easter?
<2> Rizzer, i'm upstairs in my room on wireless on this computer.
<0> pipeline, jnc, some guy told me about using rsync instead of tar...
<2> signal strength = "excellent"
<4> heh heh, shut them down for easter, good one Rizzer
<7> :)
<12> anabain: you can even use cp -a, there's not much point for or against any of these tools in your case
<4> anabain: rsync preserves filetimes and things if you tell it to. rsync or tar should be fine
<4> valdyn: also add --one-file-system though ;)
<3> startingx, check the mouse setting in xfree86-4??? as you can startx, it says the machine found the mouse devise
<13> i'm trying to use update-rc.d to remove gdm from runlevel 3
<0> ok, then the problem it's not that, but it's f****ng weird
<14> anabain: I don't think your problem is with tar. Use a stock debian kernel/initrd, and be sure your DOS partition tables have the right entry labels (e.g. 0x83 for linux filesystems)
<13> but when i sudo update-rc.d gdm remove i get the following:
<13> update-rc.d: /etc/init.d/gdm exists during rc.d purge (use -f to force)
<4> anabain: it's not all that weird, knowing the entire process of how a computer boots up into a gnu/linux os would help though
<13> i don't want to remove gdm from init.d
<0> pipeline, I tried with a stock debian kernel, and got that panic
<13> i just don't want it to boot
<7> d03boy_: it's a second computer alongside you're trying to configure then?
<13> will removing gdm from init.d remove gdm completely?
<4> cshaman: you could use 'rcconf' package
<14> cshaman: No.
<12> chealer: mv /etc/init.d/gdm /etc/init.d/gdm.notused will do this, just better
<0> jnc, right! that's what I'm asking here, ;)
<4> rcconf is braindead easy
<12> chealer: nm
<12> cshaman: mv /etc/init.d/gdm /etc/init.d/gdm.notused will do this, just better
<2> Rizzer, yes
<13> i'm a bit confused
<5> tienchi: protocol imps/2 device /dev/psaux and other normal stuffs
<13> ok.
<13> /etc/init.d holds a list of all the daemons on my box, right?
<12> cshaman: its common that people recommend update-rc.d, but its changes get reverted at EACH upgrade of that package
<4> anabain: okay, bios -> bootloader (grub, lilo, etc.) -> kernel (+ optional initial ramdisk root filesystem, with enough drivers for the kernel to boot your real root fs) -> /sbin/init on your real root fs -> evaluate init scripts and runlevels specified in /etc/inittab -> ... -> run some getty's and optional X11 display manager.
<13> and /etc/rcX.d contains a list of all the daemons that run in that run level, correct?
<13> valdyn: what about the symlink to gdm in /etc/rc3.d?
<15> its normal to i look a lot of *** glibc detected *** free(): invalid pointer... recently with very applications on ETCH ?
<12> cshaman: its 'services' or just jobs, not all daemons by far
<12> cshaman: if that symlink links to a non-existant file then that service wont be started
<4> Thanatermesis: outputting debug info where none was before, i suppose
<3> startingx, :(, i think you should just google it.
<7> d03boy_: it doesn't have anything running that might perturb ***ociation, like wpasupplicant in daemon mode?
<16> has eny one used arno-iptables-firewall?
<12> cshaman: so leave it there, apt-get update would ( in case gdm gets updated ) put the link back in any case
<2> Rizzer, I really dont know... how could I check?
<15> jnc sorry, what ?
<13> valdyn: so i should just rename the file in init.d?
<12> cshaman: right, those files are _config_ files for apt-get and changes are respected by it
<7> d03boy_: "ps aux | grep wpa" will sniff out if wpasupplicant is running. Or ps aux | less to see if there's anything else
<17> what is the best way to setup high-availability clustering for apace and php files on 2 servers and already have hardware load balancer on the front so jus twondering what kind of data sync i can use on both servers other than rsync
<15> jnc programs crash with a *** glibc *** free(): signal... everytime more on ETCH.. also in a new clean recent debootstrap
<12> Thanatermesis: read the topic



<2> Rizzer, nothing returned
<0> jnc, then the problem is at the kernel stage: it doesn't work with a kernel + ramdisk debian kernel, nor with a kernel.org kernel custom compiles without ramdisk. grub is ok, as booting process starts in both cases...
<13> valdyn: which files are config files?
<13> it looks like the files in /etc/init.d are all executables
<13> and all the files in /etc/rc3.d/ are symlinks
<7> d03boy_: lsmod shows the driver has been loaded (***uming it was module)?
<12> cshaman: most files in /etc/init.d/
<18> i'm compliling my own kernel so that my dvd drive will work and i'm not sure how to get alsa to also work
<5> tienchi: ok
<12> cshaman: they are executables _and_ config files :)
<13> hmmm
<19> cshaman: Shell scripts rock.
<13> now i am truly confused
<2> Rizzer, it shows ndiswrapper as being.... uh oh....
<12> cshaman: config file means just that dpkg will not just overwrite your changes
<15> mmmh, what has the topic valdyn ?
<2> Rizzer, next to ndiswrapper it has a 0
<19> Help, my internet's not working! Wait. How am I here?
<12> Thanatermesis: type /topic in your irc client
<20> vgchange -ay grp-archive_vg device-mapper ioctl cmd 9 failed: Invalid argument Couldn't load device 'grp--archive_vg-grp--archive_lv'.
<16> install alsa-base and alsa-utils and alsaconf
<20> any clues on whats goin on here?
<7> d03boy_: 0 size or "used by" ?
<21> wow. anyone know why when i go 'groups' it doesnt list me as in adm, but when i go 'groups cast' it does?
<18> that breaks it even if i load the old kernel
<2> Rizzer, used by
<0> jnc, perhaps should I compile ext3 support *before* leaving the original / reiserfs session for the last time, that is, before the cd live stuff?
<7> d03boy_: I don't believe that would be a problem
<2> ok
<22> How should I go about turning my Ubuntu into Debian unstable? I'm using debian sources and installed debian kernel .., do I need to install some specific packages?
<23> Martiini, you do a complete reinstall.
<24> Martiini, I dont know much.. but that sounds like a horrible idea
<22> heh :)
<7> d03boy: mine says used by 0 too. It just means other modules aren't calling it, I think
<24> ok
<15> sorry valdyn, i don't found any thing related with my problem... what are you refering ?
<24> well, its in there then
<22> Im in the mood of breaking something :)
<23> Martiini, it's not possible to 'upgrade' to debian unstable.
<12> Thanatermesis: the http://wiki.debian.org/StatusOfUnstable
<0> jnc: another question: must I tar /proc and /sys, mustn't I, or it doesn't matter?
<7> d03boy: try pulling it down completely then restarting. ifdown wlan0; ifconfig wlan0 down; modprobe -r ndiswrapper
<23> Martiini, or rather, it's extremely hard, not supported, and you will probably break stuff while doing it. also, you'll likely end up with a hybrid system. that is, neither debian nor ubuntu, and nobody will want to help you because you don't run any distro anymore.
<7> check it's truly gone, then ifup wlan0 again
<24> Rizzer, ifdown says wlan0 isnt configured
<4> anabain: you would want to p*** --one-file-system to tar
<0> ok
<24> eh oh well
<24> i'll keep going
<7> d03boy: hmm, good luck with it
<23> Martiini, so: don't.
<25> Can some one point me in the direction on what to google to run a few IP's on one NIC ?
<4> anabain: tar will archive the directory but not the contents, if its contents are a mount of a different filesystem
<7> d03boy: it shouldn't need to be fully configured for iwlist to work, I guess
<4> k31th: nice question
<24> aw, gotta love ndiswrapper... removing it just froze the comp
<25> jnc: ? is it some thing to do with alias ?
<7> damn ;/
<22> Eulex, BUT I REALLY REALLY want to break it :) how can I force debian packages into ubuntu? its doesnt wanna install those :)
<4> i use "ifconfig eth0 add 1.2.3.4" to add 1.2.3.4 to an network interface, it would show up as eth0:0
<26> Martiini: ask in #ubuntu
<25> why would you want to break it.
<4> Martiini: that's a support question for ubuntu
<23> Martiini, apt-pin unstable to something higher than 500, then issue an apt-get dist-upgrade
<15> aha, thanks valdyn, is less than i have imagine :) why is due exactly this problem ? if i rebuild the package on my machine i have the same problem... how/when is fixed ? with a update of glibc ?
<25> jnc: thanks
<4> k31th: i'm lame though and tend to put in another network interface if i need one
<12> Thanatermesis: with a fix of that programming error in that program
<25> jnc: i cant do that hte box is 100 miles away :p
<4> heh
<0> jnc, I have / on /dev/sda5, and /home on /dev/sda7; I made this from a /copy dir: # tar --exclude=home --exclude=proc --exclude=copia -cvf root.tar /
<23> Martiini, don't come yelling at us when it it breaks, though
<22> no probs :)
<22> Thaks


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