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<0> but the streams do work
<1> wishfull: ok, close xmms and run this: wget -O/tmp/disintegrated.wav 'http://rivest.dlitz.net/~dwon/disintegrated.wav' && xmms /tmp/disintegrated.wav
<2> what FTP Server do u prefer??
<3> denyhosts keeps readding me to hosts.deny, even though i removed all the violating entries from auth.log
<1> wishfull: and don't take any shortcuts (like adding the URL directly to XMMS, because due to an XMMS bug, that doesn't work)
<4> wishfull: any errors?
<5> are there any netinst or businesscard isos for i386 of recent testing or unstable around? just looked but could only find full size CD images
<6> wishfull: just for kicks, what does 'file some.wav' show?
<1> liable, kevix: I'll get to that in a minute
<4> zoghome2: http://www.nl.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/
<3> Azidrain: i use proftpd, but i've heard good things about vsftpd
<4> Dwonis: hurry up! :P
<1> liable: heh
<5> liable: thanks!
<4> np
<0> sorry, i was trying to wget that file, and was having problems copying...it's downloading now



<0> and that file works
<0> plays fine
<1> wishfull: ok, so now we know that wav files (in general, anyway) play fine under XMMS
<5> time to de-ubuntu my lappy and get back to puredebian
<1> wishfull: now, you said that you had some files that you ripped from CD? What happens when you try to play them in XMMS? Do you get an error? If so, what does it say?
<0> lemme see again..
<1> !congratulate zoghome2
<7> why does debian.org link to www.nl.debian.org/releases instead of www.debian.org/releases?
<8> Nice one zoghome2, you did it!
<9> ok, backports works, but it still says I have the newest version of kde which is not correct if it's gonna grab it from backports
<7> oh ubuntu...
<0> ok...well, xmms works now ...i'm so confused
<1> gpm: Debian is really just a Scandinavian conspiracy, that's why.
<0> now for cd's
<7> Dwonis: it's true though, right?
<10> !tetrinet
<8> i heard tetrinet is multiplayer TETRIS, get the client software by typing "apt-get install gtetrinet" as root...then as non-root start gtetrinet and connect to tetrinet.debian.net ... Everyone is welcome to come play... debian developers play, and so do debian users...come join the fun! yes that means _YOU_ join now.
<0> those don't work in sound juicer
<1> gpm: you mean on the sidebar?
<0> it says: failed to create audio output
<7> Dwonis: yeah
<7> no
<7> d'oh
<1> gpm: for me, it links straight to http://www.debian.org/releases
<0> when hitting play with a selected cd track
<7> Dwonis: nm...i'm on crack
<1> wishfull: what does "uname -r" say when you run it?
<7> Dwonis: my bad
<1> gpm: shall we have an intervention to get you off that crack?
<0> gandalf
<0> ok...well, xmms WILL play the cd's now....it was giving me an error before i started playing streams
<6> Dwonis: I just use '^d'
<0> but still, sound juicer will not
<1> wishfull: "gandalf" is REALLY probably not what uname -r says
<1> kevix: huh?
<0> it's 2.6.15-1-486
<0> sorry, wrong box before
<1> wishfull: ok, go to the XMMS preferences, and tell me what "Output Plugin" you're using
<11> does debian-31r2-i386-binary-1.iso feature also the linux kernel or do i have to download more files?
<0> oss driver 1.2.10
<1> InvalidCo: It has the kernel
<1> wishfull: change it to ALSA and see what happens
<4> InvalidCo: huh? it has a kernel.
<11> thanks
<0> works
<0> plays cd's fine
<1> wishfull: ok. what sound card do you have?
<0> lemme look at dmesg, just a sec
<1> wishfull: "lspci | grep audio" usually works too
<0> ok
<12> what is the latest debian release number (such 3.2) (i.e. stable - "sarge"), and "sid" is the latest "testing" and "etch" is the latest unstable right?
<4> !releases
<8> extra, extra, read all about it, releases is see http://debian.org/releases/, or an explanation of the different levels of Debian releases.
<1> zu22: in short, no. see what dpkg said
<0> ok... intel corporation 82801DB/DBL/DBM AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 01)
<7> oudh
<7> ouch
<1> wishfull: ok, my guess is this: when you're using OSS drivers, only one application can access the sound card at the same time



<1> wishfull: but ALSA (due to software mixing, I think) allows more than one program to access the sound card
<1> wishfull: so if you have a program using OSS to access the sound card, then nothing else will be able to
<0> ok, in gmixer i have it set to alsa
<13> only with dmix plugin
<0> ah ok
<7> yes, that's why everyone should use the alsa-oss wrapper for apps that need oss
<1> brick: right, but I think that's the default now
<1> brick: or, at least with the Intel audio drivers, anyway
<14> wishfull: you can use esound or arts ( sound servers ) to add support for stuff like that
<13> Dwonis, afaik, only when it is defined in the asound.conf - i had to do a lot of work to get it working
<1> brick: well, apparently not on my system :)
<0> ok...well gmix is using alsa mixer
<1> brick: I don't _have_ an /etc/asound.conf /etc/alsa/asound.conf or ~/.asound* file, and it behaves that way on my system
<1> wishfull: mixer settings are different. That's the hardware mixer you're looking at, I think
<13> Dwonis, not sure what you mean by "that way"
<1> brick: no dmix configuration needed.
<13> asound.confs are optional, i agree
<1> brick: it might be that the sound board has hardware mixing, but I didn't need to set up dmix manually to get the behaviour I described
<15> how do i import the debian archive automatic signing key?
<12> dwonis: ok
<1> brick: this is with the snd_intel8x0 driver
<0> ok, well, i'm running alsa config script file under admin in debian
<13> Dwonis, i didn't read all the way up to see what you described
<16> fisrado: read /topic
<15> :D
<1> brick: one of these things can happen on my system: EITHER exactly one program has /dev/dsp open, OR >= 1 program has the ALSA sound device open
<1> brick: alsa acts like it's software mixed; oss doesn't
<1> brick: I don't really know if that's a hardware feature or not, but that's what happens
<13> Dwonis, OK, that's contrary to my understanding, but it sounds like you have investigated it
<17> How do I get vim to syntax hilight?
<1> wishfull: anyway, you probably have the same sound driver I do, so if you make *all* your apps use ALSA instead of OSS, then you probably won't have this problem anymore.
<1> wishfull: for apps that you need to use that can't use ALSA, you can try the alsa-oss package
<0> that script fixed it...it unloaded the oss driver and just put alsa there
<0> now cd's play fine
<0> in any app
<0> cool....thanks for all the help
<1> wishfull: no problem :)
<1> brick: yeah, I had another machine with a different sound board, and I had to do all that dmix crap too
<9> ok, backports works, but it still says I have the newest version of kde which is not correct if it's gonna grab it from backports
<1> brick: so either dmix has now become an ALSA default (at least in Debian -- which I ***umed) or it's driver-specific
<13> Dwonis, i'm suspicious of both of those, but i'd like to know..
<1> brick: frankly, I just wish every card was like emu10k1: hardware mixing
<13> Dwonis, i think a lot of cards have hardware mixing, but whether it simplifies ALSA config is another question.
<13> Dwonis, my envy24 is pretty featureful, but i had to fight with dmix to get two apps playing at once
<1> brick: well, emu10k1 didn't care if you had multiple OSS apps connected. snd_intel8x0 only allows multiple ALSA apps
<18> sometimes when I click on a menu item, it does it takes about 10 minutes to open. I am using sarge with a p3. what could cause this? Are there any diagnostics I can run?
<18> i am in gnome
<1> brick: unfortunately, I let my less-technically-inclined brother have my SBLive card
<1> brick: precisely because I didn't want him to think Linux was crap because of the stupid "device or resource busy" problem
<13> rredd4, in what application? try strace, maybe...
<19> does anybody know how to install a skin for vlc?
<1> frankly, I think any driver that doesn't support hardware mixing should emulate it in software
<1> maybe one day I'll implement that
<1> s/day/year/
<18> brick, when I click on the actions menu and select log out. Or when I click on applications menu and select any program. Or when I click on the terminal icon above
<18> brick it does not happen every time I do it
<18> random
<18> brick, can I apt get strace?
<18> now it is ok
<13> rredd4, yes, but it will take some practice to decipher its output...
<13> sorry, i don't know what would cause that
<18> any other programs to use?
<18> maybe too much in temp?
<20> i just compiled a new kernel from source and when trying to load it it say VFS not found... i checked grub's menu.lst and it shows the same root location as the kernel that is working... does anyone have any ideas what this could be?
<9> :( I still can't get apt-get to use backports
<1> !tell acetech about initrd
<1> VoltageX: did you run "apt-get update"?
<9> Dwonis: yes
<1> VoltageX: well, then you're screwed, and you have to re-do everything ;-)
<1> VoltageX: just kidding
<18> how do I make sarge do a maintenance check.... diagnostics?
<1> VoltageX: try running "apt-cache policy $WHATEVER_PACKAGE_NAME_YOU_WANT_TO_CHECK"
<21> Hi, I can't find "lame"


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