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<unstable> thanks stew
<rohan> bartm: a blank email will do ? what if i want to put some reason or how i fixed ?
<MoDaX> rohan: np
<bartm> rohan: you're supposed to explain why you close the bug; well it's explained on http://bugs.debian.org
<abrotman> rohan: was the bug your fault?
<MoDaX> rohan: explain why you are closing in the mail. it will be sent to BTS and yaird maintainer
<rohan> abrotman: yes, partly
<stew> unstable: also, when you have it complain that the key doesn't match it gives you a line number, you can use sed to easily remove that line number
<rohan> bartm: ok, i will rtfm :)
<abrotman> rohan: i mean .. is it something the maintainer could avoid in some whay?
<abrotman> way?
<rohan> abrotman: no, maintainer of yaird can do nothing for it, its a 'bogus' bug
<abrotman> rohan: close it and tell him you're a tard :)
<rohan> abrotman: thats what i am doing ;)
<Yan^> stew: it works! however i did not change /etc/modules
<rohan> ok sent a mail to
<rohan> bugno and bugno-done both
<exalted> Hi. Which package(s) should i consider to install on testing version to get work 3D hardware accelaration on my "Intel Corporation 82852/855GM Integrated Graphics Device"? Thank you for your attention.
<stew> exalted: /msg dpkg xorg7
<rohan> exalted: the i810 driver .. see man i810 for instructions on enabling acceleration
<rohan> anyway, gotta get going, to late in the night .. thanks for the help ya all, and have a nice day :)
<exalted> thank you Stew and rohan.
<snooplsm> how can I determine my video card in debian?
<torgeir> lspci
<snooplsm> obviously its not installed properly since i only get 800x600
<typewriter> is there a install log
<typewriter> to see what you recently apt-get installed?
<bartm> snooplsm: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
<snooplsm> i have an ati radeon rv350ap
<exalted> stew, are you sure that my problem is related to the version 7 of Xorg?
<abrotman> typewriter: which version of debian ?
<typewriter> sarge
<abrotman> typewriter: no
<bartm> typewriter: maybe /var/log/dpkg.log is what you're looking for?
<abrotman> bartm: not in sarge
<typewriter> well ****
<abrotman> why?
<bartm> abrotman: oh my, who uses sarge :)
<stew> exalted: i'm sure that page has a section about getting 3d working with xorg7 and i810
<abrotman> bartm: i do .. on servers
<exalted> stew, okay, thank you.
<bartm> abrotman: just kidding of course, sarge is really good
<abrotman> stew: the 69to7 does
<abrotman> bartm: slacker .. get back to work!
<stew> abrotman: yes
<typewriter> i forgot to write down new files i installed
<typewriter> now i want to uninstall them
<abrotman> stew: we should tell exalted :)
<typewriter> but i dont remember them all
<stew> abrotman: we did
<abrotman> try deborphan and debfoster
<abrotman> stew: oh ..we should tell him again! :)
<linux2> how would i add firefox to update alternatives?
<stew> linux2: apt-get install firefox
<linux2> update-alternatives --install?
<Shadowcat> sigh
<linux2> stew, i already have firefox
<stew> linux2: then it shoudl be listed as an alternative for x-www-browser
<linux2> Shadowcat, am i annoying you?
<Shadowcat> linux2: have you read update-alternatives?
<linux2> stew, it isn't
<Shadowcat> man update-alternatives even
<linux2> Shadowcat, yep
<linux2> didn't make much sense to me
<linux2> Shadowcat, this is my first time using debian
<stew> linux2: what version of the firefox package do you have install
<linux2> so im still getting used to it
<Shadowcat> linux2: and the first thing you do is install testing
<Shadowcat> see why I'm just a wee bit annoyed?
<Shadowcat> you should be on sarge
<stew> Shadowcat: if he's annoying you please use /ignire
<linux2> stew, 1.5.0.3
<stew> err /ignore
<linux2> Shadowcat, why is that?
<Shadowcat> stew: he's not annoying, I just don't think he should be on testing
<snooplsm> for my ati driver, is there a program that will fetch this for me.. or should I go to the ati website.
<jplibre> hahahah, my aterm cannot handle fast scrolling - weird issue, wherein if I have a lot of test being displayed the terminal just dies
<linux2> Shadowcat, i don't get the latest software with sarge
<stew> Shadowcat: what is annoying you then?
<jplibre> s/test/text/
<Shadowcat> linux2: because testing introduces A LOT of potential problems, and you're not qualified to solve them
<Shadowcat> and you can't just ask about every little problem you have in here
<linux2> Shadowcat, well wouldn't i have this problem on sarge?
<Shadowcat> well... you can... but pretty soon people will get tired of you
<stew> linux2: linux2 dpkg-reconfigure firefox
<tarzeau> abrotman: http://www.bash.org/?38659
<stew> Shadowcat: if you are tired of him use ignore, or drop it, or both
<Shadowcat> linux2: no probably not
<snooplsm> stew if those commands you give out don't work in terminal... dpkg must be installed?
<jonathan`> tarzeau, lol
<abrotman> tarzeau: is that you?
<linux2> stew, nope no luck
<linux2> still nothing
<tarzeau> abrotman: nah!
<linux2> i uninstalled the browser that thunderbird was linking to
<linux2> and now thunderbird does nothing when i click on a link in an email
<abrotman> linux2: that has nothing to do with update-alternatives
<tarzeau> abrotman: [Act: 263,286,507,725,1775,1828,1834,1856,1934,2000,2002]
<bartm> linux2: apt-get install firefox && update-alternatives --config x-www-browser
<tarzeau> abrotman: wow it can do more than 2000
<linux2> There is only 1 program which provides x-www-browser
<linux2> (/usr/bin/konqueror). Nothing to configure.
<tarzeau> linux2: yeah thunderbird is broken
<tarzeau> linux2: so is firefox
<stew> linux2: try dpkg-reconfigure firefox
<tarzeau> linux2: really you must write your own scripts and prefs.js to support it other settings
<tarzeau> stew: forget it
<Shadowcat> along with a lot of other things in etch and sid, which is why I don't think you should be on etch
<stew> tarzeau: what?
<tarzeau> stew: you can NOT easily configure what browser/mailer firefox/thunderbird opens
<linux2> tarzeau, i did add the scripts i found on a website
<linux2> and they claim they work
<linux2> but nope
<abrotman> linux2: it has nothing to do with update-alternatives
<linux2> nothing
<abrotman> LALALA .. NOTHING ..
<stew> tarzeau: what does that have to do with x-www-browser?:
<Shadowcat> tarzeau: actually if Thunderbird goes through the KDE subsystem it should use konqueror, which it does
<tarzeau> stew: 22:33 < linux2> and now thunderbird does nothing when i click on a link in an email
<tarzeau> stew: did you actually read what he said?
<tarzeau> Shadowcat: dunno i don't have kde, #debian-kde
<tarzeau> Shadowcat: that's new to me
<Shadowcat> tarzeau: linux2 has kde, and before this question he had one about changing the default browser...
<Shadowcat> etc...
<stew> tarzeau: < stew> linux2: then it shoudl be listed as an alternative for x-www-browser < linux2> stew, it isn't
<typewriter> is there a program that organizes system administration notes well like in windows 2003, where today i rebooted because of so and so, and i installed X at this time
<typewriter> and then all other admins can read it and get up to date?
<Shadowcat> typewriter: Windows organizes system administration notes?
<linux2> thanks bartm it works now
<typewriter> well, it a sense, it's integrated with logs
<linux2> :-)
<tarzeau> Shadowcat: kde affects the default browser of thunderbird? i doubt
<bartm> linux2: cool :)
<tarzeau> Shadowcat: look thunderbird doesn't know kde exists
<guk> it does in 2k3 ... I don't even think 2k3 will let you shutdown without putting a log why
<jonathan`> guk, yeah - it won't. and it annoys the hell out of me
<unstable> If I remotely connect to a server, how can I see if grub is p***word protected(ie if someone tries to change boot options(single user mode) then they need a p***word.
<jonathan`> one of the doctor's offices we do work for has a 2k3 server.. i ****ing hate it
<unstable> Is this option in /boot/grub/menu.lst?
<linux2> well i have work now but i will be back to ask a few more questions later
<linux2> and then that will be it
<Shadowcat> tarzeau: in my system KDE takes full control of any X based app
<Shadowcat> but that's because I don't install all that gnome stuff in the first place
<Shadowcat> and everything gets routed to KDE apps by default unless I change it
<typewriter> well, so no one knows of a program for linux?
<Shadowcat> jonathan`: that's logging
<Shadowcat> Windows doesn't organize notes in any way
<tarzeau> unstable: use lock? and set a p***word?
<unstable> lol
<jonathan`> Shadowcat, yeah -- I just meant the logging part. Windows and organize doesn't really go together
<unstable> tarzeau: But the system will still boot normally right? Someone can't just change modes.
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