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<0> scopeuk: so compile it from scratch
<1> !mythtv
<2> mythtv is probably software to turn a Linux box + TV tuner into a TiVo. http://www. mythtv.org. Packages can be found in <marillat>. see <bttv> and I<ivtv> for tuner card drivers
<3> s/interface/interference/
<1> !tell scopeuk about marillat
<4> i added marillat to my apt sources but it dident update
<0> scopeuk: no you're supposed to update your sources manually
<5> scopeuk, you did it wrong then
<0> and you want to run testing/unstable?
<4> i havea box runnign testing/unstable with no ssues
<0> yet you don't know how to edit sources.list?
<0> why do I not believe you
<5> oooh. openoffice 2.0 in backports.org!
<4> i have to modify a cupple of configs occasionaly but its nto a problem
<1> will miracles never cease
<4> nope they dont ive justbeen lucky
<4> its not used all that much
<6> is there any useable way to downgrade testing to stable expect reinstalling, using priority in apt?
<5> I doubt it. miracles keep happening to me!
<0> scopeuk: let me get this straight, you run unstable, but yet you do not know how to switch to it?
<7> !downgrade
<2> from memory, downgrade is not possible with apt-get currently. No future support is anticipated. Some programs change the binary format of their files in a way that cannot be rolled back later.
<8> I just tried installing using a "testing" netinstall iso. Problem is, when I do ifconfig I get an unknown link encap for that interface and the hw address looks gibberish
<0> epsilon: no
<9> things are buggy and broken in both stable and unstable, get over it
<5> epsilon, depends how much of etch you installed
<4> i have a dfierent box with gui which is runnign unstabe
<4> i dont know hwo to do it from cli
<1> is your keyboard broken?
<6> lazzarello: theoretical question, full etch installation down to sarge
<8> Has anyone installed using a USB ethernet device?
<4> no but my typing is
<4> sorry
<0> abrotman: I doubt scopeuk knows how to edit something in a console
<5> oh damn. scopeuk STOP RIGHT THERE! you are not allowed to run unstable!
<1> Shadowcat: gedit!
<4> fair enough
<0> abrotman: stop telling me, tell him
<10> wola
<4> yes i know it show my level of knoage that i use nano
<11> my typing is broken too. logitech laggy desktop should have been printed on the box.
<5> epsilon, that's hard. you have to find everything that's upgraded from sarge and manually downgrade them. I had a hard enough time downgrading x.org back to xfree in sarge.
<0> scopeuk: you shouldn't even be allowed to use testing if you can't do anything in a console
<4> wireles desksets are useless
<0> HEY I have a wireless keyboard, it works fine
<7> epsilon: you can try pinning but good luck
<1> Shadowcat: that'd be like .. an ubuntu user :)
<12> I'm having a problem with dhcpd. Clients are taking forever to get a lease. The reqs/acks keep showing up in the log, but no error. If I let a machine sit for 15 minutes it might get a lease. But a lot of windows machines are getting a "Access is denied" error immediately when they try to release/renew. Any ideas?
<13> Shadowcat, you shouldn't be allowed to use testing if you can't do everything in the console
<12> debian/sarge server
<14> hi. we've mirrored debian testing internally at my company for a while now. we used a script floating around called anonftpsync.sh. For the last couple of months we've been getting these "verification" errors when updating from it... is there a workaround? maybe a newer method of mirroring?
<7> i have a wireless power...it electrocutes me sometimes
<5> OT...anyone use...a happy hacker keyboard?
<0> wireddd: follow the conversation, I know how to survive in a console
<7> hk is cool but expensive
<15> Objologist: /topic those kind of key errors?
<8> I sense a lot of hostility towards Ubuntu users. Don't get me wrong, I am not using Ubuntu, but many people actually state it IS Debian.
<1> Shadowcat: perhaps you should go back to windows if you can't figure out a man page
<5> xoz, so imagine money is no object, do you think it's "more productive" to use it?
<1> GutterPunk: they're wrong
<16> ahaha abrot
<0> pfft
<4> ok wityh a little help from the bot (hes friendly) ive switch most of my sources over
<5> !knoppixsmite GutterPunk
<1> !tell GutterPunk about ubuntu
<7> lazzarello: of course. very *ergonomic*
<14> Ronin: /topic? what's that mean?
<9> GutterPunk i think that's more jealousy ;)
<17> hello, does any know what's wrong when nothing happens after typing login name p***word (in gnome login) and clicking ok button? (all I see is the desktop background)
<15> Objologist: it means check the topic, specifically the key part
<18> hi
<8> abrotman, well I think they are. But we got into a discussion about it a few days ago. I only used ubuntu for a couple of days. Didn't like how control is taken away. On the other hand, control ****s when I cant install debian on my laptop because of some strange interface error
<4> when i break it i wont bother asking for help
<18> what i need to make own mail list?
<7> lazzarello: if you use most of the magic keys like in vi/emacs and uses cli a *lot*, it will save lots of keystrokes.
<4> new users obviously arnt elcome
<8> Nice comparison :)
<0> scopeuk: new users do not run debian unstable
<15> scopeuk: sure they are but new users shouldnt be running sid
<1> GutterPunk: trust us .. they are not the same .. ubuntu applies plenty of patches to Debian packages
<4> well users that type as bad as i do
<0> debian unstable is not meant for new users
<1> GutterPunk: for example : http://kitenet.net/~joey/blog/entry/patch_followup-2006-02-13-20-03.html
<5> xoz, excellent. see you later carpal tunnel!
<4> i dont have much luck with compilign stuff ive had more look historicaly iwth alpha/beta /unstable software
<5> there was a post on planet debian about ubuntu patches to one guy's debian packages
<5> http://kitenet.net/~joey/blog/entry/patch_followup-2006-02-13-20-03.html
<4> when i hose this box ill jsut reinstall it
<8> abrotman, I see
<11> hmmz, I seem to have general trouble with USB devices - going from 2.4 to 2.6, do I need to install/upgrade anything else as far as USB is concerned?
<1> lazzarello: so slow ...
<5> damn!
<9> scopeuk, try ubuntu :)
<19> what port does DHCP listen on?
<19> like DHCPD
<5> meriad_, it doesn't
<20> meriad_: 67
<19> stew: thanks
<0> bowman: apt-get install udev
<19> stew: i kept mixing it up with dns =]
<16> lol
<21> heh, one last problem, after removing, and reinstalling gnome-menus, now gnome has no menus! anyone know how to right this? :)
<9> meriad_ dhcp operates below the layer of ip, for obvious (?) reasons, hence no port
<14> Ronin: so is that something i have to do to each client machine? or just our internal mirror?
<1> lazzarello: grep dhcp /etc/services .. and it doesn't mention regular dhcp
<22> abrotman: I'm going to put linux on my MS-frustrated brother's computer. To keep him comfortable and in his habitat, should I go debian or umbuntu? Lindows? KDE or gnome? i'm curious in your personal opinion if you were me
<22> and by the way on that note can wine handle the aol client ware
<1> douglas: is he a tard?(beyond being your brother)
<19> hypnox- no it doesnt
<15> douglas: well seeing as your in #debian can you guess what our sggestion will be
<20> hypnox: it doesn't operate below ip, it uses udp port 67
<11> Shadowcat: will do, thx
<19> hypnox- becuase it listens for multi/unicast braodcast./
<1> douglas: the AIM client works in debian(as does gaim)
<19> hypnox- oh wait..
<22> he's a currency trader and wants to see his charts and play poker
<19> hypnox- thats layer 2..
<19> hypnox- ok ok
<9> care to check that ;)
<1> douglas: whoa .. wait a second. . how are the charts displayed?
<22> java i believe
<15> nto to mention how does his poker work
<20> meriad_: layer 2? what?
<1> douglas: you need to make 100% sure .. find out if they depend on a certain version of java or flash .. or some other weird plugin .. but if that's all he does .. either should be fine
<22> Ronin: i almost got partypoker working on wine and might get paradisepoker
<5> oh christ! wine just to use AIM!?
<5> !bitlbee
<2> rumour has it, bitlbee is an irc to other chat networks gateway, connect to irc, icq, msn, jabber, aim, etc... with your favorite irc client!
<23> How do I enable unicode filenames in Debian?
<19> hypnox- it listens on port 67 my friend
<1> gaim!
<19> stew- the LLC sublayer
<7> douglas: you must have a retainer fee for the duration you gonna babysit you bro if you'll install debian
<22> Ok
<19> stew- the mac sublayer etc..
<1> there is an AIM client from AOL for linux
<24> lazarello: who is doing that?
<20> meriad_: it has nothing to do with layer2
<22> thanks for the suggestions
<3> naim! centericq!
<19> stew- yes it does
<20> meriad_: how is that?
<5> starfishy, douglas
<24> abrotman: thats a sure sign that linux is catching on even among the imbeciles ;)
<22> So that's a Probably Not on wine handling aol's client? I need that extra security :)
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