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<0> can't i install grub when my root partition is on lvm? if i can, what device should i give grub-install?
<1> SatanGolga: and what's the panic when you boot the new one?
<2> the main problem is: i don't want UDEV to load certain modules at boot
<1> phretor: so don't use udev
<3> dondelelcaro: NEW: Kernel panic: Attempted to kill init! OLD: Kernel panic: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknow-block(3,1)
<4> SatanGolga: i think you will survive if you just press F1 to get more isntructions about rescue booting. Other function keys work allso and give some more info about things. have you read those?
<2> dondelelcaro: is it bad to use udev?
<1> SatanGolga: you haven't loaded the module for your root filesystem or you've specified it improperly.
<5> dondelelcaro: yes, I'm running udev, hehehe
<1> phretor: no
<2> dondelelcaro: it have been automatically installed by apt-get install kernel-image-2.6-686 so I thought it was necessary
<3> dondelelcaro: boot: linux rescue root=/dev/hda1 u mean something like that?
<6> its not bad to use udev, but we made the experience that many people who joining this channel had problems with udev...
<1> SatanGolga: either fix the root= option appropriately (if this is a sata drive, it should be root=/dev/sda instead of root=/dev/hda) or boot off of rescue media, mount the drive; chroot, and fix it.
<3> sorsis: F1 doesnt mention rescue
<4> SatanGolga: try other buttons
<5> dondelelcaro: yes, I'm running udev. What I need to do now?
<2> streuner: so I don't have to use it only because I'm on 2.6.15?
<7> what shall I do with "x2a kernel: Oops: 0000 [1] SMP" "x2a kernel: CR2: 000000183d36e820" ?
<3> sorsis: no nothing
<6> phretor: well, iam using actually 2.6.16 with udev and i have no problems, but that doesn't mean you have no problems with 2.6.15
<2> streuner: I have no problems. I just need a blacklisting mechanism
<4> SatanGolga: didn't you allready find how to set root partition for linux rescue? SatanGolga dondelelcaro: boot: linux rescue root=/dev/hda1 u mean something like that?
<1> adriano: you need to either MAKEDEV loop; or figure out why uduevd didn't catch the modprobe event for the loop device.
<1> sorsis: the installer doesn't take a root option.
<6> phretor: /msg dpkg blacklist
<2> streuner: I don't want certain modules to be loaded at boot, that's all
<1> phretor: you don't have to use udev ever; it's not even required by the 2.6.16 kernel.
<0> how do i run grub-install if my root partition is on lvm?
<2> streuner: I already putted things into /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist - not all of them are considered
<3> sorsis: i dont know how it should be
<2> dondelelcaro: removing it causes the removing of kernel-image-2.6-686 installed package
<4> SatanGolga: do you have any linux live discs?
<2> dondelelcaro: I taken it as a dependency
<1> phretor: that's just a meta package
<6> phretor: if you using yaird in an official kernel you'll get problems to make the initrd
<1> !+depends kernel-image-2.6-686
<8> Updating debian files... please wait.
<8> kernel-image-2.6-686: depends on linux-image-2.6-686
<1> Ryan Nguyen <ryan.nguyen@abaca.com>
<3> sorsis: i have deb-bin-1-cd and the netinstall-cd
<2> !blacklist
<8> blacklist is, like, Sarge installs the Hotplug and Discover packages to help with hardware module loading - which can often load undesirable modules. Add 'skip foo' to /etc/discover.conf and 'foo' to /etc/hotplug/blacklist to prevent them from loading. Don't forget to remove it from /etc/modules (if present). in etch and sid, modules should be blacklisted in /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist
<6> the problems is, yaird won't create initrd
<2> streuner: what about blacklist?
<1> !+depends linux-image-2.6-686
<8> linux-image-2.6-686: depends on linux-image-2.6.16-1-686 (= 2.6.16-6)
<3> sorsis: should it be: linux rescue root=/dev/hda ?
<6> and yaird is the only tool to make initrd without depending on udev
<6> so you need udev then :-)
<2> dondelelcaro: make it this way: I remove udev, apt-get tries to remove kernel-image
<2> streuner: I like udev, I just need a simple way for controlling it
<9> does anyone know of a way to display files that have been modified or created in the past day or so?
<1> phretor: then use the blacklists if you like it
<1> jlamr: find with the -mtime or ctime option
<4> SatanGolga: a in hda stands for first hdd, number after hda1 stands for first partition. do you know whats correct?
<2> dondelelcaro: I do use it - it simply does not care of some of my entries
<3> sorcis: probably hda1
<4> SatanGolga: have you tried it?
<2> dondelelcaro: for example, I putted `blacklist e100` into /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist but I still get e100 loaded at boot
<2> !udev
<8> [udev] at http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/utils/kernel/hotplug/udev-FAQ , Linux 2.6's userspace equivalent of DevFS, or a package which breaks particularly often in unstable, or dependent upon a kernel >= 2.6.12 in testing and unstable
<4> and like i said, you can change to another terminal after you have booted installer and try if that would mount your partitions. you don't have to be able to mount it as root to edit it.
<4> SatanGolga: note ^^^^^
<6> it seems we need an 'start an udev war' :-)
<3> sorsis: VFS: Cannot open root device "hda1" or 03:01 Please append a correct "root=" boot option Kernel panoc: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on 03:01
<2> streuner: lol
<10> my new debian install has no startx ? whats going on
<11> RadSurfer: did you install it?
<1> RadSurfer: you haven't installed x-window-system or xorg
<12> Which optios should I use to creat ext3 filesystem? Is this ok mke2fs -m1 -j /dev/hdb1?
<10> why didn't the install program take care of that ???
<11> because you didn't tell it to
<10> I had no such prompt
<10> Ok. What do I do now about it please.
<11> you didn't get tasksel?
<11> RadSurfer: which desktop do you prefer?
<10> I do not recall such a screen.
<10> I would like KDE.
<11> apt-get install x-window-system kde kdm
<1> RadSurfer: run tasksel and install the desktop task
<1> RadSurfer: or if you know exacyly what you're doing, install aptitude , run it, and install the exact packages that you want.
<10> I have only the 1st 4 cd's.
<4> SatanGolga: do you have windows on your computer as first partition?
<11> or aptitude install kde x-window-system kdm
<13> My internet connection randomly dies and I have to ifdown wlan0 && ifup wlan0 to fix it. I can't spot anything in the logs. how would I go about debugging that?
<11> wheeeee
<14> dandesousa: yes
<15> Woah.
<16> hi, dondelelcaro! I'm adriano, hehehe
<17> holy moly
<1> mwe: in what way does it die?
<16> I need to reboot my system
<13> dondelelcaro: well I can't ping any host
<13> dondelelcaro: or surf or anything
<13> dondelelcaro: irc stops responding
<18> mwe: I had same problem, and in /var/log/messages I could see exactly when and how long I was down: it was my 3 yr old router dying, I replaced it
<16> dondelelcaro: now my loop devs are created.
<4> SatanGolga: thing is that your kernel can't mount your root from partition 1. either you haven't implemented support for that filesystem or you are trying to mount for example windows partition.
<18> still lagging
<11> Azar: we've noticed
<4> SatanGolga: and are you sure that your hdd is IDE disk?
<18> mwe see my reply up
<13> Azar: yeah. another host using the same router stays up though
<18> mwe ah ok then is something with your box
<13> yeah. probably. I have no clue how to find out what though
<10> Debian did not install X-windows for me. I only have CD's. What can I do ?
<18> RadSurfer: you can install it yourself ask in private here /msg dpkg X
<16> dondelelcaro: thank you guy by your tips!
<18> RadSurfer: sorry /msg dpkg drxx
<11> Azar: that's wrong
<11> RadSurfer: aptitude install x-window-system kde kdm
<18> oh sorry, I thought dpkg knows about X
<4> Azar: use proper package names
<10> that just repeats what I type.
<10> Should I just run the Install again? maybe I missed something?
<18> RadSurfer: what abrotman said up ^^^
<18> damn
<11> hehe
<4> "dark side is taking over freenode and rebels of OSS can't organize"
<18> nah, they do the spring cleaning on the servers I bet, or better yet, new hardware
<11> wtf
<4> Azar: optimist. i would bet on nuclear war.
<18> sorsis: nah... I've seen worse
<19> weee here they come
<20> !seen dpkg
<19> hello Dwonis
<8> Dwonis: i haven't seen 'dpkg'
<11> dpkg: hi
<8> salut
<19> dpkg: hi
<8> hola, simonrvn
<20> hi simonrvn
<18> Gnea hi
<19> dpkg: hi
<19> beh
<9> Does anyone notice something strange going on with the internet?
<21> wa! dpkg is socializing, how cool is that!
<11> jlamr: you think?
<18> jlamr: no, like what?
<19> jlamr: no, just the network
<4> jlamr: like i said. it's nuclear war.
<11> dpkg: what are we going to do tonight?
<8> abrotman: Same thing we do every night. Try to take over the world.
<3> Dwonis: ok, u dont know how it works with the deb-cd?
<19> hehe
<9> looks like srious packet loss
<3> zrin: wb :) did u have any ideas?
<18> with my brand new router, I rock the internet
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