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<0> tienchi: it is a channel to paste a short amount of info to show an error.
<1> kevix: ya. i had that problem before: ii links2 2.1pre21-1 Web browser running in both graphics and tex
<2> which command can give my file size in bytes?
<3> tienchi: the Sarge 2.6.8-2 kernel has that module in it. What kernel you using?
<4> narff: ls, stat
<0> deadcat: yup. I have 2.1pre20-3. need to upgrade!
<5> gnufan, 2.6.8
<0> narff: I like 'du -k FILE' for kb and 'du -m FILE' for MB
<5> gnufan, Linux USER-C8FD7473AF 2.6.8-2-386 #1 Tue Aug 16 12:46:35 UTC 2005 i686 GNU/Linux
<3> tienchi: check "dmesg" for references, then try "modprobe snd-ali5451.ko" and check again
<6> hi, i have a problem with cups, I can not print. This is cups log file : http://dacer.homeip.net/cups/error.log
<6> and this is a screenshot from hplip: http://dacer.homeip.net/cups/Pantallazo.png
<7> Hey what's the best way to end a process (X one if that matters) if I can't exit it directly, just a standard kill or killall command?
<6> anyone can help me?
<0> menko: there are various 'signal's that you can send a process. kill == kill -1. kill -9 is the most abrupt way. 'man kill' for more info.
<6> I can not solve it
<3> menko: Just plain "kill <pid>" is good
<7> ok thanks people
<8> anyone using a 3ware 9550sx raid control with problem ? ours uses 100% wa in top when it has to write a lot (like dd) and while this happens other processes can do nothing but wait
<9> hi, when i run make , the following error is comming out , "missing separator (did you mean TAB instead of 8 spaces?)"
<5> gnufan, modprobe snd-ali5451.ko --> FATAL: Module snd_ali5451.ko not found.
<4> jishin: it even tells you what is most likely wrong
<9> i run unexpand Makefile , but there's no change
<10> Hey all
<3> tienchi: the module is in Debian Sarge kernel package "kernel-image-2.6.8-2-386" -- either you have bespoke kernel, or you've messed it up and need to reinstall the kernel package.
<10> Is debian stable suitable for enterprise?
<11> I've just installed Debian 3.1 and I'm wondering if theres any repository I can add which has some newer packages? Like MySQL 5 for example?
<0> R: please state the nature of the medical emergeny.....
<6> anyone can help me wit cups?
<3> tienchi: oops you might not need the ".ko" -- oops
<0> R: yes.
<4> marlun: check bacports
<10> kevix, none just poking
<11> jm_, where can I find them? =)
<10> I think our new Server will be ... debian :D
<5> gnufan, let me try
<12> hi
<10> Whats stable gnome?
<3> marlun: these days "Etch" is probably the best place to get MySQL 5, but I use dotdeb at work.
<5> gnufan, i have to restart the machine now?
<4> marlun: /msg dpkg backports
<0> marlun: debian has 3 streams of software. if you are using 'stable' aka sarge aka 3.1 and you are sure that the 'stable' or 'sarge' repos are not useful for you, you can use the unoffical 'backport.org' repo.
<3> !tell marlun about dotdeb
<11> thanks
<0> tienchi: in Gnu/linux you only need to reboot for new kernels or new hardware (we are not like windows x-))
<3> tienchi: ?? wouldn't think a restart is needed, did the module insert?
<5> gnufan, yes;
<5> Kevix, hehehe .. that's good ..
<3> tienchi: do you have sound? How are you trying to play sound (GNOME/KDE/console), and which application?
<5> Kevin`, gnufan , no sound.. i can not ajust the volumen still
<12> I cannot use keyboard in sarge without having USB legacy diabled in BIOS as the other os has same kernel as sarge cannot shutdown screen goes blank must start from mains. here is pastebin of bliss1@xstation:~$ dmesg | grep -i acpi http://pastebin.ca/49325
<3> tienchi: you might need to force the module to load on reboots if it solves your problem, I'd expect it to be loaded automatically if it was needed, but you might need some packages to persuade it to do it automatically.
<11> I could also just install them using source-code...
<5> gnufan, how to force the module to load on reboots???
<3> tienchi: worry about that if/when it is working ;)
<0> tienchi: edit the /etc/modules file.
<8> anybody using a 3ware raid controler ?
<3> tienchi: what desktop are you using? Where are you trying to adjust volume?
<13> how does auto kernel upgrade in debian work
<13> any howto/help page
<5> gnufan, kevix, it's gnome; i am try to adjust volume from the volume control
<0> fg: apt-get install .....
<14> grrr, goddam xorg
<0> fg: the kernel is not set to auto install as it affect many things.
<12> liable: how's it going
<13> is it possible to customize the kernel if using apt-get
<3> tienchi: probably easiest with GNOME to logout, and login again. The GNOME sound stuff is reinitialised when you login to GNOME.
<4> liable__: aren't you using x.org now too? :)
<14> bliss1__: terrible!
<14> jm_: heh, plain old console for me!
<12> liable; o whats the prob
<14> bliss1__: xorg ****age
<13> so what's recommended, upgrade kernel manually?
<0> fg: yes. apt-get install newbiedoc
<5> gnufan, good. let me have a try. i will come back soon
<12> liable: have a coffee make you feel better
<14> bliss1__: having a beer.. coffe wont do the trick :)
<0> fg: you do 'apt-cache search linux-kernel' and see which one you want.
<4> liable: nothing obvious in the logfile?
<15> liable: what version of libc6?
<12> liable: yee and something else chill man
<3> fg: what are you actually trying to achieve? If you install Debian stock kernels they automatically update when security vulnerabilities are fixed, but you need to reboot after such an upgrade.
<12> liable: for what its worth happy easter
<0> bliss1__: and a happy p***over too!
<12> kevix: yep thats the one
<14> jm_: casically, i cant seem to get dpkg to reconfigure it, even though i have removed and touched xorg.conf, then md5summed it. though i think i am missing the new xorg md5sums
<14> bliss1__: thanks
<14> streuner_: whatver sids is atm
<15> !info libc6 sid
<12> liable: I cannot use keyboard in sarge without having USB legacy diabled in BIOS as the other os has same kernel as sarge cannot shutdown screen goes blank must start from mains. here is pastebin of bliss1@xstation:~$ dmesg | grep -i acpi http://pastebin.ca/49325
<16> libc6: (GNU C Library: Shared libraries), section libs, is required. Version: 2.3.6-6 (sid), Packaged size: 4620 kB, Installed size: 11164 kB
<17> !info xserver-xorg sid
<14> bliss1__: i am a bit busy with problems of my own at the moment :)
<16> xserver-xorg: (the X.Org X server), section x11, is optional. Version: 1:7.0.10 (sid), Packaged size: 122 kB, Installed size: 464 kB
<12> liable; i understand
<12> dpkg: hi ,care to take a look
<18> !info xserver-xorg sid
<19> mh, i just tried to play enemy territory with my debian install, but i have no sound (gnome) what do i have to do? :D
<16> xserver-xorg: (the X.Org X server), section x11, is optional. Version: 1:7.0.10 (sid), Packaged size: 122 kB, Installed size: 464 kB
<4> liable: even with dpkg-reconfigure --force? -plow? DEBCONF_DEBUG might shed some light on the issue
<14> jm_: i actually had to link the old xorg md5sums to the new dir to even get xserver-xorg to install properly
<0> liable: its odd that I have been installing the xorg from experimental with (almost) no problem. makes me want to avoid the 'sid' upgrade x-(
<14> kevix: strangely, i dont think many people have had this error. or, not many people have customised xorg confs.
<14> lemme try and find the new md5sums
<19> mh, i just tried to play enemy territory with my debian install, but i have no sound (gnome) what do i have to do? :D
<15> liable: md5sums are in /var/lib/dpkg/info
<12> dpkg: I cannot use keyboard in sarge without having USB legacy diabled in BIOS as the other os has same kernel as sarge cannot shutdown screen goes blank must start from mains. here is pastebin of bliss1@xstation:~$ dmesg | grep -i acpi http://pastebin.ca/49325
<16> bliss1__: what are you talking about?
<14> streuner_: thanks
<0> liable: how about rm xorg.conf, dpkg-reconfigure with any setting, then overrite xorg.conf with backup.
<12> dpkg: will not reboot
<4> liable__: huh, you have issues with package md5sums? I don't think anything other than debsums verifies that
<15> no, with xorg.conf
<14> jm_: the xorg.conf.md5sum
<15> cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.custom, md5sum /etc/X11/xorg.conf >/var/lib/xfree86/xorg.conf.md5sum dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
<20> kevix: actually, experimental -> sid was painless
<4> liable: right, that makes more sense
<15> liable: try this - cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.custom, md5sum /etc/X11/xorg.conf >/var/lib/xfree86/xorg.conf.md5sum dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
<0> streuner_: that is what is written inside the xorg.conf file. did he not try that?
<12> dpkg: did you see what I am talking about
<0> simonrvn: ok. thanks for the tip.
<15> kevix: he said, i cannot even run dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
<15> s/i/he/
<20> bliss1__: you know, dpkg is a bot
<14> streuner_: done that a mob of times :) there are actually new mdsums i think. when it installed it was looking in /var/lib/x11/ and i linked to the old ones.
<12> simonrvn: ok well thanks
<0> simonrvn: but a good bot!
<20> yes
<14> no its whines about no mouse module!
<5> gnufan, i come again; i reboot gnome, it didnt work; then forced to load the module, reboot the machine, but either work; i lsmod, and can see the module snd_ali5451 is listed.
<14> s/no/now/
<12> kevix; thanks could have here a while waiting
<15> simonrvn: we don't need new experimental users...
<20> streuner_: i know, he's already one. i figured it wouldn't hurt
<12> kevix: i put the question to the room
<20> !room
<16> CHANNEL!
<12> I cannot use keyboard in sarge without having USB legacy diabled in BIOS as the other os has same kernel as sarge cannot shutdown screen goes blank must start from mains. will not reboot here is pastebin of bliss1@xstation:~$ dmesg | grep -i acpi http://pastebin.ca/49325
<21> bliss1__: heh, still stuck with that eh?
<15> liable: *raise my eyebrow*
<15> liable: what the ****, so you still aren't able to run dpkg-reconfigure?
<0> streuner_: I normally keep a sid system but on rare oc***ions I like to see what fun experimental is! maybe even report a bug or two.
<12> vin' hiyep but got something in a pastebin
<12> vin' i think it was you who told me about USB legacy disable
<21> bliss1__: yes, which kernel is it?
<12> vin' both are 2.6
<21> bliss1__: which 2.6?
<0> streuner_: the man page for dpkg-reconfigure doesnt mention any 'verbose' or debug options. is there a way to do this?
<20> -plow
<14> streuner_: I can run it. if i replace, or touch xorg.conf, then run the md5sums on it, it doesnt update the file.
<20> and probably some environment variables
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