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<0> how can i unsubscribe from debian mailing lists?
<1> abrotman: like greeting your mom?
<2> tarzeau: i don't think my mom would be very happy
<2> hruske: it should tell you at the bottom of the email
<0> it doesn't want to work
<2> might take a few hours
<3> snuggle
<2> for a few hours?
<4> streuner: because that individual was evading bans. Read your scrollback.
<5> witf is a null modem cable?
<0> no, i get an email saying i'm not subscribed, but majordomo 'which' says i am
<2> concept10: use google
<5> abrotman, no
<2> concept10: yes
<5> :)
<2> iirc .. wikipedia has an article



<5> abrotman, it was debian related :)
<6> dondelelcaro: 'foo' is used by identd too
<2> concept10: right ...
<4> streuner: sure, that's why it's restricted to an ip range.
<5> abrotman, sorry, I reading a Debian on Cobalt page, just had a quick question
<7> What is the Debian equivalent of a .spec file?
<2> !null modem cable
<4> setuid: debian/*
<3> dondelelcaro: you think that'll work? he already changed his username a few times.
<7> ...in the .deb files themselves, and is there some sort of wizard/editor that lets me create them?
<2> sett[away]: deb .. bah
<2> and i misfired!
<4> blondie: if it doesn't, we'll add more bans...
<3> dondelelcaro: there were plenty added and evaded
<7> dondelelcaro: Right, so how does one go about making a .deb from a custom source tree, knowing nothing about how to build .debs before?
<4> blondie: I know, I read them.
<4> !nm guide
<8> The New Maintainer's Guide contains an introductory tutorial on the art of making Debian packages. It is located at http://www.debian.org/doc/maint-guide/ There is also an additional guide that the Debian Women subproject has put together which may be useful: http://women.alioth.debian.org/wiki/index.php/English/BuildingWithoutHelper
<3> right
<5> abrotman, yeah, wikipedia has a nice page on it
<9> center
<10> is anyone else getting gpg errors on apt-get update?
<2> concept10: good for you
<3> ha
<1> !qotd0
<8> <reality> whats the debian package with all the build essentials?
<7> concept10: on what?
<2> deepfrze: yes .. fixed in a few hours
<6> dondelelcaro: well, but the ban bans ALL users who use nullidentd of ALL users in ipconnect.de
<5> abrotman, thanks sir
<10> abrotman: thanks...
<1> !qotd0
<8> methinks qotd154 is 11:41 < greycat> o/~ BREEZY, BREEZY / GIVE ME THE ANSWER, DUDE! / I INSTALLED IT / AND NOW ALL MY DISKS ARE SCREWED! o/~ (add "lol" to taste)
<2> look at that .. two in a row!
<11> abrotman: you're going up in kingsley's rankings now ;)
<4> streuner: sure. If it becomes a problem I'll deal with it then.
<2> resiak: boo!
<2> ban germany!
<9> NIN!
<9> ;)
<11> Supaplex: nin == nine inch nails != niew
<11> erm
<11> nien
<11> (doh!)
<12> hey can i get some help with lvm and device mapper... I build a kernel from the kernel.org sources and when I reboot it doesnt find the lvm devices and kernel panics... i have the dm_mod and lvm stuff compiled in and im not using any loadable modules
<9> resiak: I suspected as much :) thanks for the correction
<12> what am i missing
<11> Supaplex: NP :-)
<11> !debian kernel images
<8> <hexxeh|work> 99% of people in here who ask about compiling their own kernels are idiots, who don't know what they did, or did it badly. debian kernel images exist for a reason.
<9> illsci_: is /boot w/ or w/o lvm?
<12> kernel /vmlinuz-2.6.14.6-grsec root=/dev/mapper/vg0-lv0
<12> is my kernel line
<3> just use a debian kernel
<12> no



<3> if you want to compile stuff, use gentoo
<3> YES
<4> blondie: relax. If you don't want to help someone, use /ignore.
<12> debian grsec patches are outdated
<2> concept10: if you don't want it .. find a DD to donate it to . they're useful for arm porters
<1> blondie: debian's fine for compiling too
<12> and so is the gradm stuff
<9> illsci_: /boot does not play nice with lvm.
<3> ok
<11> so apply a grsec patch to a debian kernel source?
<3> I'll actually go to sleep
<12> im not sure if it applys cleanly or not
<12> i dont think it does
<11> illsci_: but it is much easier to jus put /boot on non-LVM
<12> well maybe but i would really just like to get this to work the way it
<12> and /boot is not on a lvm partition
<5> abrotman, I will put up a post about it. good idea
<4> iirc, you'll still need an initrd to bring up the lvm mapper.
<11> oh, sorry, I misread
<9> illsci_: oh, and you're using initrd right?
<12> no im not
<2> concept10: make sure it's ARM first :)
<12> i dont have kernel modules enabled
<2> concept10: they changed what was inside them .. but there should be a debian-arm list
<9> illsci_: I setup lvm+raid on debian using non lvm /root and initrd with extra utils for managing lvm (so it can do it's busy work). google it, you may find the same howtos I did
<4> illsci_: inintrd's don't only deal with modules...
<5> abrotman, yeah, i just read that, it has a mips proc
<2> yay!
<2> concept10: oh yeah .. they're mips . .not arm .. been a while :)
<9> mips or bogomips, you decide. ;)
<12> i didnt know of any other reason to use initrds besides modules
<9> !initrd
<8> i guess initrd is initial root disk. initial RAM disk, or god's way of punishing you for using a prebuilt kernel image, or ...And you WILL HAVE TO INCLUDE AN INITRD STATEMENT IN YOUR BOOTLOADER (hint, hint). Typically if you can't find your root filesystem, this is your problem. or a great system for those who understand modulesneed/want root in lvm and/or md raid. http://everything2.com/index.pl?node_id=1476230
<13> is there any way to save the settings from alsamixergui, everytime I restart my computer the settings are gone and the computer is mute
<12> anyway
<9> illsci_: ^^^ see the lvm part from dpkg?
<12> hmmm
<12> let me check that link
<9> and there was silence in the land for many hours :-X
<14> what kind of file is a .vxo?
<15> any suggestions to what i should use to create/maintain man files in console?
<16> Anyone knows what i could do for my mouse that sometimes "jumps" to some corner of the screen ?
<17> Supaplex : kinda nice huh
<13> is there any way to save the settings from alsamixergui, everytime I restart my computer the settings are gone and the computer is mute
<18> Estes: how often does it happen?
<16> from times to times, maybe every five minutes
<4> Virtual: that's what /etc/init.d/alsa does; see /etc/default/alsa
<18> Estes: sounds like the mouse is the problem. did you try a different one?
<6> Virtual: or just use 'aumix' and 'S' to save the preferences
<16> no, but i know there's a solution for it
<16> just i can't remember why
<19> synaptic keeps trying to access server directories which are too deep, how can i force it to only look for the files in http://neutronic.mine.nu/unstable/ ?
<18> Estes: it could be the mouse protocol
<16> it's a setting in the X configuration
<16> no
<16> the proto is ok
<16> it works fine otherwise
<19> it keeps trying /unstable/dists/unstable/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz
<19> i just want to use /unstable/Packages.gz
<12> ahh no luck
<12> still got the same error with an initrd image
<19> this is on synaptic 0.56 debian/stable
<18> mixel: what are you trying to install? the url doesn't look like it will work with sarge
<19> i want to install the codeblocks ide
<20> if I already have grub installed before I install debian.. does debian recognize this or overwrite it?
<18> mixel: man sources.list. try "deb url/unstable/ ./". and /msg dpkg simple sid backport
<21> is it true, that limits from /etc/security/limits do not apply to root?
<19> "./" worked
<19> i'm going to have to update many other packages though
<22> quick question: what's the differnence between an ethernet bridge and a router?
<21> raronson: the protocol (level)
<21> raronson: a bridge is basically something like a software-switch
<22> mrverbose: so it's not simply a matter of where the device is placed? i.e. a device that connects internal networks, or a device that connects networks to the internet?
<19> raronson: a bridge is ip-transparent, a router has an ip address for each network it ajoins


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