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<0> ma3x: divide the cost of 1 CD (700MB) and 750 MB and see how much 1 MB cost...
<1> pipeline: sorry, didn't know that. I thought with all their money they were able to support all the niche arches.
<2> zebalin7: They've chosen not to.
<3> streuner, dont be that excentric!
<1> (I've never used Ubun)
<0> ma3x: hm?
<4> I saw some great Alpha machines...
<2> zebalin7: There's nothing special about it. It's a fork of sid.
<0> azeem: '!' is a full ban...
<2> vieira2: Yeah, well, if you have an Alpha, your choices are pretty much NetBSD, Tru64, and VMS. Because Debian is about dried up on it.
<3> streuner, you devide too much and scary me with price ideas
<1> pipeline: yes. I've used kanotix for a while.... until the last rel would not boot to my SATA second HD.
<3> streuner, just tell me if it's 0,50 EURO expensiver, it's not a problem
<0> ma3x: well, if you have too much money..
<5> streuner: full ban?
<4> pipeline: 'dried up'? what do you mean>
<4> ?
<0> ma3x: i have no idea, how much a 700 MB or a 750 MB is in .ch
<1> pipeline: so I came to debian 'pure' (everyone and their dog calls THEIR distro 'debian' these days).
<2> vieira2: Mostly dead.
<6> expensiver? really? wow. that actually made me laugh
<3> streuner, okay nevermind... how much is it in deutschland?
<7> Does anyone know how to make a pci netgear WG311v3 wireless card into a host Access point under linux?
<8> markybob: don't make fun of the non-native speakers :)
<2> zebalin7: It's always been that way. As long as debian existed, there have been forks of debian. Debian puts so much work into making it easy to develop the distribution further, if you were going to make your own linux distribution, wouldn't it make sense to fork it?
<0> azeem: full bans are '!' and '%' are to make people silenced...
<2> vieira2: After Sarge, there won't be any Debian for Alpha releases.
<2> vieira2: So in a couple of years, no more packages.
<1> pipeline: other day a ubun guy came here to ask a Q and he got torched badly!! (not by me!)
<5> streuner: the difference being that he won't be able to rejoin, right?
<2> zebalin7: That's because this is #debian. Ubuntu has its own channel.
<0> azeem: at the moment? no.
<1> pipeline: true. I agree. But it doesn not hurt to be nice to folks.
<5> if they don't bother to keep quiet for 10 minutes and leaves before, they didn't mean to make an effort
<5> streuner: maybe I am missing something
<4> pipeline: hmm... that's sad... I don't own an Alpha, but I know who does... The Govmt. of Santa Catarina, Brazil has some... It would be nice if they sell it on eBay :)
<0> azeem: +q instead of +b
<7> pipeline, what do yuo mean no more Debian for alpha?
<9> pipeline, according the release qualification alpha is a release-candidate
<5> streuner: well, I was just lazy and let irssi's /ban command figure it out
<2> dn4: It's a SCC port now. Meaning no more releases.
<5> pipeline: uhm, no
<6> dn4, http://lists.debian.org/debian-alpha/2005/03/msg00034.html
<2> centrx: Oh, so Alpha made the cut. Last I heard, it wasn't going to make it.
<5> there's a difference between so called scc ports and releasing ports
<0> there is not that difference, because s(he) didn't listen much either...
<8> http://wiki.debian.org/alphaEtchReleaseRecertification
<1> war92: did you get your emacs fixed? There is a posting on linux.debian.user about it.
<2> azeem: At any rate, scc ports are just what they sound like.
<10> !find IndexDistributions.pm
<11> ...
<11>
<2> zebalin7: Well, it does hurt, because when Ubuntu's developers do something different from Debian's, we won't know about it. We can't ask what release they're running -- it's not sarge, it's not etch, it's not sid. It's something in between with changes sprinkled in. It's thoroughly impractical, and it says right in the topic that Ubuntu has its own channel.
<11> ? ?
<10> english please
<1> Why is the bot named dkpg?
<0> why not?
<1> pipeline: yes, but flaming the hell out of people is not going to solve anything.
<10> because
<11> this is english server?
<5> zebalin7: why try to point them to #ubuntu
<2> zebalin7: There's nothing to solve.
<2> NightSky: This particular channel is english-only.
<12> Hello! Can anyone recomend a very lightweight graphical www browser?
<5> some are more courteous than others
<10> NightSky: the channel is
<13> !ru
<14> Unless you mean Mother Russia, Spell it out: "are you". see r. see u. Pogalujsta, zajdite na #debian-russian :)
<2> NightSky: There are various other channels for other languages.
<11> Why?
<10> because
<5> poli: dillo, maybe
<11> dpkg: Sps! =)
<15> I'm trying to download Debian, but I see there are like 13 CDs! Do you really need them all? Downloading the DVD takes hours... Can't I just download the essentials and then the packages I want afterwards?
<1> dkpg is a really smart bot. Does it have it's own website with ALL the questions/answers listed on it. Some distros have such a thing (i.e. kanotix).
<10> 'dpkg'
<16> ghb: netinstall
<13> !your factoids
<14> My factoids are available at http://rzlab.ucr.edu/~dpkg/ They are updated nightly and the previous 18 days are archived. there is a searchable database of my factoids at http://dpkg.vireo.org/
<1> you could learn a lot just studying the bot.
<17> ghb: No.
<15> amphi: Thank you!
<12> azeem: yes... I am playing with dillo right now. I just salvaged a 32MB Libretto 70CT, and I am trying to figure out what are the best apps to have running. Thank you.
<17> ghb: Nevermind, yes him.
<15> freeone3000: ^^
<5> poli: I'd try elinks or links2
<15> amphi: Might add that I
<15> amphi: I'm sick and tired of non-working Kubuntu. I'm switching to something that (hopefully) works!
<12> azeem: I was between dillo and links2... I will try elinks too. Thanks again!
<10> !+find IndexDistributions.pm
<14> Updating debian files... please wait.
<14> Debian Package/File/Desc Search of 'IndexDistributions.pm' returned no results.
<8> poli: also look at w3m
<16> ghb: kubuntu doesn't work?
<10> you said that 10 minutes ago you fricking bot
<12> \amethyst: Thank you, I will.
<10> ****
<10> oh well, dh-make-perl time
<17> I have QT. I know I have QT. Where is my QT?
<1> abrotman: another beep to you!!
<17> QT here meaning header files.
<14> Debian Package/File/Desc Search of 'IndexDistributions.pm' returned no results.
<0> freeone3000: locate?
<15> amphi: Well... For me, it doesn't. At least not as well as I would want it to. For instance, whenever I open some programs, I get two instances instead of one. And it's really difficult to administer the system since half of the times the kcontrol hangs itself, and half of the times it might work...
<0> freeone3000: use ./configure --help (options)...
<18> Silent_al: why do I deserve that?
<16> ghb: I've never used kde myself
<0> to see where the QT dev files are installed use dpkg -L <package>
<1> abrotman: gotta go. XYL yelling at me (XYL == ham talk for ex-young lady==wife). Thanks for the zip help.
<8> poli: there is a package called w3m-img that lets w3m do inline graphics
<15> amphi: Which do you use? Maybe you can enlighten me. =)
<19> chealer_, to say thanx :P about helping me with the nvidia driver on xorg6.9 , thnx m8 :)
<8> poli: in xterm or with fbcon
<16> ghb: I've been using openbox and wmii, but wmii seems to be abandoning sloppy focus, so I return to openbox
<18> Silent_al: oh, I don't remember, but great. I've just opened a bug report that should hopefully attract attention to the problem
<20> Hello, need help with bluetooth, i can exchange files using kobex, but if i try to connect it ask mw the access code, I type in the mobile phone the one specified in /etc/bluetooth/pin but always have connection refused, is there any way to avoid it?
<12> \amethyst: That might be just what I am looking for"
<13> zebalin7: have a good evening .. thanks again
<15> amphi: I'm quite a novice, so which would you recommend? I've grown a bit fond of KDE after previously using GNOME. But I hear there are alternatives.
<19> chealer_, well the solution very simple, just install the latest driver ( 8178) from nvidia.com
<16> ghb: xfce4 perhaps?
<8> poli: its rendering isn't much better than lynx or links, though
<15> amphi: Is it available on Debian?
<18> Silent_al: shrug. I hope I didn't suggest you to do that
<16> ghb: I like lightweight wms
<8> poli: but it's fine for reading actual content, if you don't care about flashy CSS layouts :)
<21> ghb: ion3 or openbox3 are decent window managers
<19> chealer_, y? is that a bad thing to do?
<18> Silent_al: quite possibly.
<19> =\
<18> !tell Silent_al about nvidia-installer
<15> kspath: Are they easy to manage? Easy is a relative term, though...
<19> actually i get better performences with 3d games ..
<21> ghb: manage? they do what you tell them like most other window managers
<15> kspath: I suppose. =) I might add that I'm sitting on a laptop.
<21> ghb: ion3 and openbox3 and fluxbox do not exactly follow the wimp interface
<17> Window managers don't break easy.
<15> kspath: Wimp?
<17> Windows
<17> Something something something, which I ca't remember.
<15> freeone3000: I see.
<4> Windows Impersonator?
<21> ghb: google WIMP laptops are not chairs
<17> But they don't look like it.. neither does AfterStep. They're improvements.
<12> \amethyst: Hey, I am a guy who usually says that everything worth reading is worth reading in black and white ;)
<22> I can't find ntop (network top) in reps anymore. Was this package replaced by something else?
<19> chealer_, good to know, thanx, but i had no choise, i cant use the nv driver .. i need 3d acceleration.
<21> ghb: Does the laptop you are sitting on at least have a cushion?
<18> Silent_al: I guess you misunderstood the factoid's meaning.
<18> !nvidia-installer
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