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<0> I guess my first sid is dead
<0> i hate sid
<1> kspath: dpkg-reconfigure exim4-config --- thank you
<2> stew: sorry if I looked like I was trying to discourage him to help
<0> Get: 1 http://ftp.de.debian.org sid Release.gpg [189B]
<0> E: Method http has died unexpectedly!
<0> don't know what I can do
<3> stew, is his chocie to liev it this way
<0> I check on other mirrors but I got the same stupid error
<4> Okay, I've succesfully installed it, how do I get it to run/work?
<5> Le_Vert: you shouldn't be running sid
<3> but how should a fellow like me search emacs since he doesnt knwo the version>
<6> grummund: No problem. apt-cache search keyword can be quite helpful. apt-get install apt-file ; apt-file update ; apt-file search keyword can be useful also.
<0> i know zumbi
<0> but I had no time to rebuild dspam for etch
<6> grummund: There is also something called debtags that is quite fun sometimes.
<0> so...
<0> now I need to reinstall on this old sparcstation
<7> NikosGr: i agree. there should be an emacs dummy package. if you file a wishlist bug, the maintainers might provide one, or at least explain why they don't (like they are waiting for emacs22)
<0> it will take so much time :(
<8> Le_Vert: so now you will discover plenty of time to deal with sid. Oh, and by the way, you shouldn't be running etch either.
<3> yes
<1> kspath: ty
<3> so stew please also tell me
<3> why this didtn work?
<5> Le_Vert: do you have apt-setup, apt-spy, etc...?
<3> apt-get install emacs*
<7> cheal: no problem, i understand. i just feel like there are lots of more people that could be contributing that i hate to see people discouraged
<0> i'm running etch since 3 years without any problem
<0> just using the sid kde* with pinning
<4> zumbi, you still there?
<3> istnt this suppsoed to downlaod emacs21 as well?
<0> as it's alway broken in testing :)
<0> no zumbi
<5> lucas_: ?
<0> I'll try to use ftp instead of http...
<4> I've got alsa-base installed, what do I do now in order to get sound to work?
<7> NikosGr: that won't work because it would try to install multiple packages which conflict with eachother
<6> NikosGr: Make sure you also explain that you also thought that you wanted to match all packages starting with emacs. It is possible to have two or more packages that start with emacs that are exclusive. What do you want to happen in that/those case(s).
<0> damn :|
<5> Le_Vert: try to find a working mirror, i guess
<8> Le_Vert: you could be running stable for much longer with much less problems
<0> sed -i 's/http:/ftp:/' /etc/apt/sources.list
<0> ...
<0> working again :|
<0> wtf :|
<5> lucas_: try to run alsactl start and read /usr/share/doc/alsa-base
<7> NikosGr: however if you suspect that a package name is going to start with "emacs" you could "apt-cache search ^emacs" or "apt-cache search --names-only ^emacs"
<6> NikosGr: Do you want it to branch questions ?
<4> okay thanks
<5> lucas_: btw, turn up your volume =)
<9> hi
<10> I'm having this while modprobing ip_tables: unresolved symbol nf_unregister_sockopt
<7> lucas_: are you behind an ISA firewall?
<7> Le_Vert: ^^
<4> no
<7> lucas_: sorry, misfire
<10> what is the quick way to install a new kernel ?
<4> np
<9> when i install debian i say ignore all pci devices and now i dont have sound, is posible to fix that?
<7> suppaman: /msg dpkg upgrade kernel
<3> stew, yes dude
<6> NikosGr: Imagine you are managing the repository. Imagine all the possible issues and possible solutions.
<10> stew: thanks
<3> that what i wanted int he first place
<4> alsactl start
<4> command not found
<4> :-(
<7> NikosGr: you need to disable content inspection on compressed http content
<3> to egt i list of all packages starting with word "emacs"
<0> stew > I would be happy to understand btw
<3> sicne i din know the exact packages name
<10> what is etch ?
<10> !etch
<11> from memory, etch is the codename for the Debian release to follow sarge, currently testing. see http://www.debian.org/releases/etch/ . Installation CDs, other media, and everything else you'll need are available from our web site, http://www.nl.debian.org/devel/debian-installer.
<0> maybe a update of apt-get/aptitude to support diffpackage
<7> NikosGr: ugh, not you
<10> I'm on sid I think
<7> Le_Vert: you need to disable content inspection on compressed http content
<0> that's is not available on sparc yet ?
<3> NikosGr: you need to disable content inspection on compressed http content
<3> can you please xpalin that?
<10> !sid
<7> NikosGr: sorry, i'm all confused, nevermind that
<11> the unstable version of Debian. Commonly [and wrongly] backronymed Still In Development. It's actually named for the destructive neighbour kid in Toy Story. Ask me about unstable. Do not use sid unless you have the skill to find your way out of the mess that broken packages may put you in. It will never be released.
<10> !unstable
<11> from memory, unstable is the status of a Debian release when packages can be added to the system at any time that might disrupt the integrity of the whole system! Ask me about <break>. not supported here, in general. It's also newspeak for not stable. If you have to ask whether you should use unstable, you shouldn't. apt-get install apt-listbugs (!) See testing. see sid. see sid faq.
<12> Does anybody have an idea why DNS should fail to work under a 2.6 kernel and not 2.4?
<0> yes stew
<0> explain us
<0> what's this new total ****age :D
<3> stews i age what you said
<3> apt-cache search ^emacs
<3> and still got this
<3> dtd - Emacs major mode for editing SGML and XML DTDs
<3> dtd aint astart with "emacs"
<7> Le_Vert: your ISA server is breaking when an apache server returns content with the Content-Disposition header is set to x-gzip or someting like that, you need to tell your ISA server not to decompress content during content inspection
<10> how can I add tab completion to apt's parameters ?
<3> i though this is usppode to retunt me lines starting wioth emacs only
<12> Hmmmmm.
<4> Still no luck, zumbi
<7> NikosGr: apt-cache search --names-only ^emacs
<4> It doesn't finde the command you gave me
<0> NikosGr, aptitude search emacs | grep ^emac
<0> stew, ISA ?
<3> stew what the '^' is tellign apt-get?
<6> NikosGr: apt-cache pkgnames emacs
<0> what does it means
<6> NikosGr: man apt-cache
<0> ^ means start of line
<12> Hmmmmmmmm.
<7> Le_Vert: i thought you said you were behind an isa server, are you?
<3> even if i give what you said stew
<0> i'm not
<3> i also get line slike these
<3> xemacs21-nomule - highly customizable text editor -- Non-mule binary
<6> NikosGr: ^ is basic regex
<3> apt-cache search --names-only ^emacs
<6> NikosGr: read man apt-cache
<6> NikosGr: apt-cache pkgnames emacs
<0> Hit ftp://ftp.de.debian.org sid/main Packages/DiffIndex < I sur this new feature (incremental Package files) broke my aptitude
<3> why ti doesne work like ls
<6> NikosGr: man apt-cache
<3> ls s*
<7> NikosGr: then pipe it through grep ^emacs
<3> wil giuve me files starting with s
<3> ls *s will give me fiels endign with ls
<6> NikosGr: Are you incapable of understanding the manual pages regarding apt-cache?
<3> no
<6> NikosGr: apt-cache pkgnames emacs
<3> but still i dont follow how thsi comamnd reacts
<7> NikosGr: yes and "apt-cache search --names-only ^emacs" will only give you pacakges starting with "emacs" however you are getting xemacs* becuase xemacs* Provides: the emacsen package
<12> Situational awareness.
<6> NikosGr: man apt-cache you might gain some basic understanding in that case.
<10> how can I have tab-completion with apt's parameters ? anyone on this ?
<0> . /etc/bash_completion
<10> Le_Vert: thanks
<3> stew: yes but emacsen isnt in the name of the package
<0> see /etc/bash.bashrc for enable it always
<4> can anyone help me?
<7> NikosGr: yes, i know. this is an oddity
<3> sorry for me being persistant
<3> but it doesnt react as expected
<7> kspath: i am capable of reading the manual page for apt-cache and i think his confusion here is undrestandable, the command is not behaving as the man page says it should
<13> as part of a server switch I made some user's homedirectories symlinks to a directory in an nfs mounted tree... however those users are now unable to get a proper shell (login goes fine but the shells hangs before presenting a command prompt)... how could I solve this?
<3> stew, exactly
<3> i ahve read man of apt-get but it soent responmd as expetcted
<6> stew: Perhaps not in all cases. It may "seem" to not behave as it should. I am not defending all the choices made. It would seem that most people that ask questions do not try to read the manual pages
<3> what it the best way i could use to search for that package emacs
<6> NikosGr: apt-cache pkgnames emacs
<3> sicne i dotn knwo tha name of the package but getting as less as possbile resulkts
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