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<0> pinky: but i never had any problems it just worked
<1> liable, where can i get a 2.6 and how big is it?
<0> pinky: but then i've only played quake 3 not 2
<2> i do not know
<3> hi ppl
<4> quhan, be specific
<2> no lo se
<5> brownie17: you can get alsa modules for 2.4, oss isnt working for you?
<0> pinky: did you update your xorg.conf like it said in the readme with the nvidia driver?
<6> yaarg: I had the Nvidia installer do it for me...
<2> i do not know
<6> I did verify the changes it made though by manually editing it
<0> it must have changed then
<2> ke tal?
<0> you use to have to manually edit it
<4> pinky, do it in the debian way, it may help



<2> bey
<6> Agg
<2> adios
<1> liable, doesn't seem to be. didn't work too well in ubuntu either
<1> liable, so is there any need to update to 2.6 at all?
<4> pinky, anyway, avoid nvidia/ati, if you can, binary drivers are evil
<0> not being able to play games is eviler
<5> brownie17: i guess the best bet is to google your sound card. (the lspci output for it)
<6> dli: I know, I know, I hate the situation
<6> Wait a minute...
<1> liable, can't e bothered, i'll just try alsa
<7> dli, I have the "~/.gtkrc-2.0" now, and I know this file is used for set the gtk interface, and I want to try set it by myself, but I dont know how to, I think maybe I need a doc which explain the .gtkrc-2.0 or a graphics program to set it.
<6> I'm looking in /usr/lib/ and the file called libGL.so in there is a symlink to a nonexistant file
<4> pinky, intel releases GPLed drivers now for its video cards (i945 now)
<6> It links to libGL.so.1.2, which doesn't exist... could this be my problem?
<6> dli: I haven't bought Intel CPUs/motherboards ever... I'm using an opteron now
<1> pinky, what's an opteron?
<6> brownie17: AMD Opteron is AMD's 64-bit server line of CPUs using Socket 940, as opposed to the Athlon 64's Socket 939
<4> quhan, some docs are in /usr/share/doc/gtk*, find more online by google
<4> pinky, intel is releasing conroe soon
<6> dli: I know, but it'll be beyond my price range.
<8> I've just installed Debian on my updated unstable debian box (it has to be unstable sadly as I need amd64 for xen) and while the stock debian kernel boots ok the xen dom0 kernel doesnt because it either has no initrd (I can't see initrd in aptitude) or if I use the initrd from the stock debian kernel it says "waiting for root filesystem" and waits indefinitely. I'm using a RAID 1 device for / (md0)... can anyone suggest how to please please
<9> hi there ... what are .la files?
<6> dli: If Intel ever offers an AGP/PCI-E card then I'd go for it... I just don't like the packaged deal of integrated graphics
<4> pinky, I won't touch amd any more, unless they can offer something not contaiminated with ati/nvidia
<6> dli: Yeah, it's kind of a ****ty situation all around
<10> robhu, you create the initrd from the running kernel. using one of the initrd tools you dont install it as a package from aptitude
<10> robhu, you do intall the tools frmo aptitude tho
<4> pinky, also amd still couldn't release a dual core mobile cpu by now
<8> sep: I understand that - what I meant was that I can't find mkinitrd in apt
<6> dli: When it comes to laptops I'll get Intel... I just don't make laptop purchases
<4> robhu, try apt-file search mkinitrd
<7> dli, thanks , I found a package gtk2.0-examples, I think maybe it will help me
<7> Installing...
<10> robhu, there are some new tools i think one is called yaird
<6> I'm going to try linking this libGL.so file in /usr/lib/ to a file that actually exists... say, libGL.so.1.0.8756
<4> quhan, I only use icewm on liveusb, not much experience left
<1> laible, the intructions the bot game me for getting alsa are crap coz they're for another version.
<8> dli: OK - I'm installing apt-file now
<10> robhu, use initrd-tools , or yaird
<8> sep: OK thanks
<4> pinky, ldd those nvidia libGL.so
<6> dli: What?
<7> dli , I will try it and tell you the result ;-)
<10> robhu, http://wiki.debian.org/InitrdReplacementOptions tells you all you need to know
<4> pinky, ldd /usr/lib/opengl/nvidia/lib/libGL.so.1.0.8756
<6> dli: /usr/lib/opengl/ doesn't exist
<6> I remember vaguely linking the libGL.so in /usr/lib/ to the file you just typed out, and my problems going away (on a previous install)
<6> dli: But this is odd, there is no "opengl" directory in /usr/lib/
<6> dli: Does that make sense?
<4> pinky, find
<11> there wouldn't be anyway
<6> dli: To reiterate, I've got a libGL.so in /usr/lib/ linking to a nonexistant file, and I think if I linked it to /usr/lib/opengl/nvidia/lib/libGL.so.1.0.8756 will make it work, only there appears to be no opengl direcotry in /usr/lib (whereas I remember this existing on a previous install)
<6> dli: Am I missing a package?
<4> pinky, read the debian nvidia howto
<6> dli: I could link it to the file /usr/lib/libGL.so.1.0.8756
<6> dli: Well, I know this works just using the Nvidia installer
<6> dli: I've run into this problem trying to compile projectM (OpenGL visualization libvisual plugin)
<6> dli: And I recall fixing it by linking to the broken /usr/lib/libGL.so file to /usr/lib/opengl/nvidia/lib/libGL.so.1.0.8756, only this time that file doesn't exist...
<8> YAY FIXED !
<8> You guys are heroes!



<6> dli: Any idea why that might be?
<4> pinky, with a binary only package, you always run into problems, sooner or later, the only question is when
<11> try running ldconfig. might fix it
<6> simonrvn: Can anything bad happen as a result of running that?
<11> no
<11> it's run every time a lib gets installed (and should)
<11> you can always read the man page too ...
<1> what was the coe to get your sound card again?
<6> simonrvn, dli: Oohh, fixed it!
<6> I linked /usr/lib/libGL.so to /usr/lib/libGL.so.1.0.8756 and it worked... it seems the fact that /usr/lib/libGL.so was linked to a nonexistant file was the problem
<6> I'm still infurated about this graphics driver situation, though... probably won't buy another binary-only proprietary card again
<12> where could i get swf tools for debian?
<12> its not packed
<13> On unstable i can't install the packages I want because xfonts-encodings fails because it wants to overwrite a file that is also in xfonts-base. How can I fix this? I've tried -f with apt-get install ... I don't even want xfonts (or X) as its a server.
<14> is there an app that shows which active programs have data in swap?
<15> good question nix i dont think so but if someone have an answer I want it too ;)
<16> RobHu: man dpkg, search for overwrite
<13> nkuttler: thanks
<17> My syslog is full of nfs: server davinci not responding, still trying
<17> nfs: server davinci OK
<17> How can i fix it? This causes horrible stalls due to iowai
<17> calls retrans authrefrsh
<17> 29104 1195 0
<0> nix: cat /proc/<pid>/maps
<17> Output from nfsstat -o rpc
<17> Lots of retrans :-/
<18> Hello everybody!
<13> nkuttler: Thankyou very much - that fixed it. The solution was dpkg -i --force-overwrite /path/to/deb
<15> Knight_Lord: verify your nfs mounts ? /etc/exports and /etc/fstab ?
<6> What's the EAX situation on GNU/Linux?
<18> Cann somebody tell me the "debian package archive" URL?
<17> ne0futur it works fine from another client (running fedora 4)
<18> There was a website collecting all "old" packages.
<13> Is there a shiny ncurses interface for LVM / RAID?
<17> ne0futur the nfs server is debian sarge, but i don't think it makes a difference
<17> irc packages.debian.org?
<15> Knight_Lord: perhaps using different versions of NFS ?
<5> irc: or for old packages .. snapshot.debian.net
<15> or lock problems ?
<17> ne0futur yea i considered lock problems
<18> Yeah!! snapshot....
<18> Everytime the same. - Who can remeber that name!?
<17> ne0futur do you know how to further diginto this mess?
<15> could also be peering problems between your 2 servers
<17> ne0futur 2 servers?
<15> 13:21) < Knight_Lo> My syslog is full of nfs: server davinci not responding, still trying
<15> (13:21) < Knight_Lo> nfs: server davinci OK
<18> Thanks and bye
<15> the server davinci and the server where you have the logs
<17> ne0futur the logs are from the client
<17> ne0futur everyone is using nfs version 3
<19> Knight_Lord: is portmap installed everywhere?
<15> ok peering problems between your server and client
<20> Knight_Lord: TCP? UDP?
<17> tralala i guess nfs depends on it
<17> kspath i don't know it's the default, how can i check it?
<17> ne0futur how can i check for that?
<20> Knight_Lord: UDP should be default
<17> kspath do you know how i can check that?
<15> verify also you opened everything necessary in the firewall for nfs , on client and server
<15> tcp and udp, in and out
<17> Server packet stats:
<17> packets udp tcp tcpconn
<17> 27233465 18267962 8965503 2990
<20> Knight_Lord: Did it ever work? This was working but suddenly this has happened?
<17> It works on and off
<21> check rpcinfo -p localhost if portmap is really registered and running
<17> It works fine from some fedora machines on the same network
<17> 100000 2 tcp 111 portmapper
<17> 100000 2 udp 111 portmapper
<20> Knight_Lord: Common firewall configurations?
<21> hm.. looks good
<17> kspath yes, there is no firewall
<17> and if it was a firewall problem i guess it wouldn't work at all


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