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<0> Kevin`: Of course I just told you how YOU can do it...
<1> FarrisG: I would ***ume that it probably does have *some* technically superior part. I can't really say. In practical use though, I'd have to say (having used both), that person is sadly confused.
<0> liable: Yup... that's 2 car payments!
<2> heh
<3> the bootloader and kernel image are in flash, and I don't know the format for the images to update it :)
<4> Flimzy : wish my car payments were that cheap lol
<3> you'd have fun
<1> FarrisG: Bleh, as much as I dislike RPM-based distros, I can't really say I know of any problems with RPM itself. But, I'm not schooled in the differences between debs and RPMs.
<3> or break it
<5> mrwoody: maybe kkbswitch
<0> weasel_zz, You need a cheap car like mine, then :P
<0> Kevin`: Well what formatted the flash?
<6> valdyn: no, I don't have that
<7> cheal: np, gl man
<4> Flimzy : i hear those kia's are decent ;)
<0> Kevin`: Most flash drives use some version of FAT



<5> mrwoody: install it?
<0> weasel_zz, I got an 86 Jetta
<0> weasel_zz, (diesel)
<5> !info kkbswitch sarge
<3> well,
<5> mrwoody: oh its not in sarge i see
<4> Flimzy : had one about the sam eyear in college.. used to run it through snow banks.. like a german blitzkreg in the snow =)
<0> weasel_zz, hehe
<3> http://pastebin.com/597519
<8> !atheros
<8> !madwifi
<9> i heard madwifi is at http://madwifi.org/wiki/UserDocs/Distro/Debian, or #madwifi, or http://www.marlow.dk/site.php/tech/madwifi, or to install madwifi drivers built against standard Debian kernel images (woody/sarge only) see '/msg dpkg madwifi-install'
<8> !madwifi-install
<9> somebody said madwifi-install was like, to install madwifi drivers built against the Debian standard kernel builds for woody/sarge, add "deb http://debian.isg.ee.ethz.ch/public sarge madwifi" to /etc/apt/sources.list, then as root: "apt-get update ; apt-get install module-***istant madwifi-source kernel-headers-$(uname -r)" then: "m-a a-i madwifi". You should now have madwifi installed. Note: Atheros = ath0, NOT eth0.
<4> anyone have any pointers on a irc channel for mud ops?
<3> bear in mind this has no keyboard or monitor, and I don't have a level converter for the serial port
<0> Kevin`: I've done that all before... on a sparc.
<4> Kevin` : what are you working on?
<0> Kevin`: I'm sure I could do it on a ppc, too.
<8> do you know how to install mdwifi drivers in debian etch?
<3> a dline dsm-g600
<3> dlink*
<0> Kevin`: But.. .if you can't do it... it's a sign that you shouldn't be using debian on that machine.
<7> madwifi drivers are sooo nice
<7> same with the hostap drivers
<3> Flimzy your not bieng very helpful.. "you should be able to do it, but I won't tell you how"
<10> I have the smbfs module installed and loaded yet when I try to mount a share I get a message about a bad block or other error.
<7> Kevin`: whatcha trying to do
<11> does an NNTP server send IHAVE command to a client(newsreader), or it is only sent to other servers ?
<0> Kevin`: I have told you how. You've ignored my suggestions.
<3> put something more useful on the device
<3> use external storage, netboot
<0> Yup, those are all options
<0> Kevin`: Nonetheless... even if I don't tell you how... if you can't figure it out, you shouldn't be doing it.
<7> Kevin`: well...you can use an emulator
<7> Kevin`: it'll be slow, but it'll work
<3> Flimzy lets start simple.. how do I replace the kernel image
<0> Kevin`: Why would you want to?
<7> Kevin`: http://pearpc.sourceforge.net/
<0> Kevin`: Altho the how would be... either cross-compile... or install Debian first, then compile on the target machine itself.
<12> Kevin`: what would make you want to do that?
<7> Kevin`: install debian onto "powerpc" using the emulator, set up the system how you want, and voila! a powerpc filesystem image...
<3> well it's using..
<13> hmm my DoObY client wouldnt send text... anywho..
<3> Linux DSM-G600 2.4.21-pre4 #480 | 8 25 17:39:08 CST 2005 ppc unknown
<3> bit old, i'd like something newer on it
<13> i myself am trying to install pearpc but im missing crt1.o
<13> does anyone know what it is
<13> and where i can obtain it
<0> Kevin`: If it were me, I'd copy the contents of the netboot CD to the hard drive. Then boot from the hard drive using that kernel and initrd.
<3> how do I boot to the hard drive
<7> Kevin`: fine, ignore me
<0> Kevin`: Uhm. If you don't know how to boot from the hard drive, how do you expect to boot Linux once it's installed?
<7> Kevin`: if you want to rant, rant!
<0> Kevin`: He seems to like doing that.
<3> rabies I saw what you said
<7> Kevin`: im sure
<0> I think what Kevin` needs is TrollOS
<3> Flimzy well I thought you would know, you said you'd have it up in an hour, ***uming i'm a complete idiot



<7> seriously
<7> Flimzy: you arent acting too much better though =p
<14> Flimzy : i resent that =P
<7> deb_troll: lol
<0> deb_troll, hehe
<0> Kevin`: I said I'd have it up in an hour, or give you $200.
<0> Kevin`: Even so, that doesn't mean I know everything... but it means I could learn it.
<7> Flimzy: just redirect the guy to a guide of some sort and let him fumble it out
<0> (where it == what I need to know... not where it == everything)
<13> whats he trying to do?
<7> Nafed: make a powerpc filesystem image with ext3 i think
<15> Flimzy : would the firmware be done in ***embly? ;)
<16> hey all I have a problem with my xserver. it says bad display name "Gokee2;0" in "remove" command I can start it with startx -display :0..... how do I fix it so it starts right with out me doing that?
<7> Nafed: doesnt seem too hard honestly
<0> rabies: The Debian install guide I guess would be the starting point (that's where I got guidince for my installs-sans-removable-media)
<3> well i'd like to install it natively somehow.. an image would help for testing
<0> weasell_00, eh?
<7> Kevin`: partimage can be used to place the image on the hd when you want to
<7> Flimzy: sure, that works
<2> Sonny: you still trying to install it?
<7> Flimzy: if he doenst want help, hes not going to accept help...
<15> Flimzy : sorry answered my own convoluded question ..
<0> Kevin`: read the Debian Install docs on debian.org
<17> mount /proc /proc -t proc in the chroot fixed the problem, thanks
<7> weasell_00: sweet...
<0> rabies: how's that? (I ***umed he'd already looked at that... but I realize now that's probably a stupid ***umption)
<3> if it was as simple as putting something on the hard drive i'd be done by now :/
<7> Flimzy: if someone comes online saying "i cant do it" they usually have the mind set that they cant do it
<7> Flimzy: they arent looking for advice, they're looking for validation
<0> rabies: Indeed
<18> can someone show me what their ~/.gconf/desktop/gnome/url-handlers/http/%gconf.xml looks like
<0> rabies: i can give him validation :)
<3> oh, I could try to do it, but no one has yet made a firmware image for this device, to my knowledge
<7> Flimzy: they want someone to say "you cant do it, you're right that it cant be done"
<0> Kevin`: You're right. It's impossible.
<13> Kevin` tell me exactly what your trying to do
<7> heh
<0> Nafed: He's trying to waste our time by asking for advice, then ignoring our suggestions saying "If that was possibble I would have done it already"
<0> wihtout even trying first
<3> try what
<13> ah
<13> in that case
<15> rabies : but there are those who come in saying "i cant do that...till someone can point me down the right path"
<13> you got any idea what crt1.o is Flimzy? :P
<7> weasell_00: yep, and usually those people ask questions after the inital one =p
<0> Nafed: Nope. Not really. Aside from an object file... hehe.
<7> weasell_00: not argue with the person giving help saying that it cant be done w/o even trying
<3> heh screw it, noone here's gonna know how to do anything with it
<2> Kevin`: you realise theres a #debian-ppc?
<0> Kevin`: Nothing. Don't try anything. All the possibilities are impossibilities. That's why you haven't done it yet.
<7> weasell_00: o yea, i should be a psyche major ;)
<19> bruiz mdadm: add new device failed for /dev/sda1: Device or resource busy
<19> bruiz i can also install knoppix on a third hard drive temporaily
<7> lol...
<7> cookies!
<13> Kevin`, ive asked you a few times now what your trying to do so that i can offer help. Are you really prepared to accept any advise we give you?
<3> Flimzy I could recompile the bootloader to boot from lan or hd, and dd+hexedit a firmware image together hoping it's the right format
<3> that's my current knowledge of what I could do
<3> and I really feel unsafe trying that
<0> Kevin`: Ahh! Sounds like maybe there IS hope then!!
<0> Kevin`: So why don't you try that, instead of bugging us?
<18> i'm used to using gnome-terminal to right click on a link and have it "Open Link" a few days ago, instead of handling the URL with firefox, it began using epiphany, i tried changing the setting in preferred applications and alternatives, but that has not been helpful, i've looked at the .gconf settings and while i think they are correct, i would appreciate if someone msged me what they have in the file ...
<18> ... "~/.gconf/desktop/gnome/url-handlers/http/%gconf.xml"
<3> would you try that if you were in my place?
<7> emad: i'd try #gnome on irc.gimp.org, they are really good with those types of issues
<20> if it was me and i was this worried about it i would unmount the chip, dup it, reseat it, try it.. then redup and try again *shrug*
<0> Kevin`: If it came to it.
<2> emad: you could try update-alternatives too
<18> liable: also tried that
<1> emad: Don't have that file.
<0> Kevin`: I'd probably try some of my other suggestions first, tho. But those are impossible, or else you would have already tried them.
<13> hehehe
<3> I don't see how they apply to the situatino


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