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<0> WillieDaPimp, do not use the .deb skype provides, download the static binary, and then expand it, and then use ./skype or something to launch it
<1> OT: you might want to run smartctl on the drive if you suspect hw errors
<0> WillieDaPimp, ime thats the only way I got skype to work
<2> !repeat
<3> Please don't immediately repeat your question if no one answers it. If no one answers, that means that either no one knows the answer to your question, no one is willing to answer it, or you haven't provided enough information. Ask me about <ask> or <sicco> if you need help phrasing your question. If you don't get an answer here, go ahead and try asking your question on debian-user@lists.debian.org
<4> haha williedapimp
<5> Dwonis, yeah, the oss stuff... also caused me troubles... found out it was easier to just close all other devices...
<4> WillieDaPimp: recognize me?
<4> ;)
<6> stoned i'm not exactly sure what you mean by that...but i tried and got this error >> Package libstdc++5 is not installed.
<7> jelly-ho: It's direct under init in the pstree, that does mean init started it, right?
<8> ick: no.
<9> elik: yeah. I'm not running KDE or anything (though sometimes I run artsd for Kopete), so that's what I did as well. It's really annoying, though.
<6> thingfish, hrmm....i don't know, should i know you?
<0> WillieDaPimp, then install it
<5> Dwonis, it is
<7> jelly-ho: then what does it mean? And how am I going to find out how to kill the program that started it?
<8> ick: it could be just that the process which started it finished itself, in which case init becomes the parent.
<9> elik: same goes with the stupid Flash plugin via Crossover plugin
<5> yeah, on the same forum :P
<7> jelly-ho: like screen?
<4> WillieDaPimp: tsk your nick is a zappa song (off 'Hot Rats'); mine is a zappa album. You should know this.
<7> jelly-ho: nm
<9> people say that free and proprietary software can co-exist... I might agree if the proprietary stuff wasn't always dragging behind
<0> WillieDaPimp, http://www.skype.com/go/getskype-linux-static <-- this will download the file. use tar jxvf and extract it, cd to where it was extracted, and then run it with ./skype or whatever the binary name is. If it complains about needing some libs, install them with apt-get install, or first search what you need by apt-cache search
<6> thingfish, oh yes i did notice that, but i thought you were saying that i knew you from somewhere
<0> my nick is from.. uhh...
<4> WillieDaPimp: oh ok, good. ;)
<0> hehe
<9> VMware seems to be the only piece of proprietary software that I have that isn't total crap... and even it still only supports OSS
<7> Dwonis: how do I kill artsd such that it doesn't come back? Not a problem one has on Windows.
<10> so far which is the top few chosen web appliance for webhosting that has least exploits or is very active ?
<0> ick, killall -9 artsd
<9> ick: I dunno. I manually run artsd in my .xsession (since I'm not running KDE), so when I kill it, it stays dead
<0> ick, then turn it off in kcontrol
<9> ick: as an alternative, you could try "artsshell suspend" and hope that nothing tries using it
<5> jelly-ho, hum... no 1280x800 resolution... only 1280-960 or 1280x1024 (std...)
<0> ick, use kcontrol to turn it off.
<11> is it okay to get rid of /usr/src/linux-OLDVERSION* ?
<7> stoned: I installed kcontrol for that purpose and it does NOT work.
<6> thingfish, not many of us zappa fans still around IRC, i used to be a member of a zappa channel back in 91' when i was on irc.xworld.org, but the owner of the channel p***ed away about a year or two ago, he did all of frank's cd re-mastereing
<8> elik: you mean in debconf dialog? that's normal. Choose anything, I think I chose 1024x768.
<0> ick, if it stays off in kcontrol, AND you killed all artsd processes, it will not come back
<5> jelly-ho, ?? ok, and what happens next?
<12> I apt-get installed istanbul; and I try to run it in a terminal by typing "istanbul" and it just doesn't run. It just hangs. How can I figure out what is wrong? /var/log/messages shows nothing
<0> processes dont magically start/stop
<7> stoned: I did that, and it does not work.
<0> well then thats strange
<7> stoned: More precisely: I "disabled the sound system"
<9> ick: is artsd running as another user?
<0> ick, killall -9 artsd && ps auxf|grep arts
<8> elik: start X, and complain if it doesn't show up in native res. ;-)
<7> stoned: nm, I did it as root, not as normal user.
<13> unstable: strace
<5> jelly-ho, i'll just ctrl-alt-backspace it... see you in a few
<0> heh, the u flag did it for ya ;)
<9> heh. it just occurred to me that some people still run X sessions as root
<0> heh
<9> I haven't done that in ages
<14> I wish i could update to the 8.25.18 ati drivers :(
<7> stoned: nope, it doesn't work.
<9> ick: Does artsd have a parent process?
<7> Dwonis: init
<0> !ppid
<3> [ppid] Parent Process ID, or to find the ppid of a pid, run "ps -O%P pid"
<12> abrotman: Are you on sid ?
<9> ick: Is artsd actually *dying* (i.e. is it getting a new pid)?
<7> Dwonis: 4991 1 R ? 00:00:55 /usr/bin/artsd -F 10 -S 4096 -s 60 -m artsmessag
<0> ick, may I suggest #kde, the arts people
<7> Dwonis: It gets a new pid
<12> Can someone running sid; apt-get install istanbul; and confirm it won't run. So I know before I file a bug report
<8> ick: did you disable it in kcontrol?
<7> jelly-ho: yes
<9> ick: I dunno, then. Nag #kde
<5> jelly-ho :(
<5> jelly-ho, same fat resolution (stretched)
<8> ick: yeah, I'm out of options too.
<9> ick: well, or you could slay your X session and replace it with ratpoison or something
<0> hehe
<0> ratpoison
<13> unstable: no .. i'm smarter than that
<8> elik: oh. does /var/log/Xorg.0.log mention 1280x800 at all?
<5> !beer abrotman
<0> abrotman, no you're not
<0> ;)
<7> Dwonis: well, I think I will kill X then... but this doesn't look like it works correctly.... :(
<5> jelly-ho, it wouldnt... as I'm in Xfree ;)
<8> elik: I have, between other things, (II) I810(0): PanelID returned panel resolution : 1280x800
<13> unstable: does strace give any outpout >?
<7> Dwonis: Debian is not perfect
<0> debian IS pececttion!!
<8> elik: whatever, XFree86.0.log then :-F
<0> *ahem*
<9> stoned: heh
<5> jelly-ho, where is it?
<15> how long will it take to fix the tightvncserver package?
<8> elik: /var/log/XFree86.0.log
<0> oh my keyboard ****s
<8> elik: could be the old X don't detect the hardware that well.
<14> I have 2 sound cards in my system, on board and a Creative Audigy 7.1 card. They both work but the onboard card seams to be the defualt one to load in linux. When i reboot sometimes and i use alsamixer, onboard is the one it only alows me to edit the creative is not there. I have to do a alsaconf and select my creative card to get it working and then i have to reajust all the volume settings. This is a pain in the butt considering i reb
<14> oot alot with other problems im working on. anyone have any suggestions ?
<5> jelly-ho, brb, will just read the 1451 lines :P
<0> sirius, alsaconf and select the card to use
<8> elik: paste it somewhere.
<8> elik: /msg dpkg paster
<14> stoned: i have to do that every time i reboot if you read
<0> no
<0> I don't see it
<0> where did you say it?
<0> oh
<14> well i guess i didnt well i have to do that every time i reboot
<8> elik: also the /etc/X11/XFree86Config-4 (sp?) might be useful.
<12> abrotman: http://pastebin.com/703478
<12> abrotman: The package apt-get installed properly. no errors. Just doesn't start properly.(at all)
<0> hah, xchat screwed up on me, 2nd half of your sentence was blank
<14> o
<0> I had to switch to another tab and then back and it fixed it
<5> jelly-ho, http://channels.debian.net/paste/2815
<13> unstable: looks like a dependency is missing
<14> well i just need to know if there is a way to stop having to do alsaconf all the time
<5> jelly-ho, but now not sure I have the 1024x800 entry as I ran the configuration
<12> abrotman: pygtk?
<0> sirius, I've never looked that deeply into alsa and how it works. sorry
<13> unstable: eh .. not sure yet
<14> k]
<0> sirius, there has to be a config somewhere
<13> !find strop.py sid
<0> sirius, dpkg -L alsa etc.
<0> sirius, grep for conf
<8> elik: you still use vesa driver?
<12> abrotman: apt-file search strop.py shows nothing
<5> jelly-ho, here is the config file, 1024x800 and the modeline are the stuff I added http://channels.debian.net/paste/2816.
<15> how do you get dpkg to tell you why something isn't in testing?
<8> it found mode for 1280x800 though.
<8> elik: seems it found mode for 1280x800 though.
<13> unstable: did you run apt-file update first?
<5> jelly-ho, ??? really, I just rerun the config and supposedly overwrote my old config file
<12> abrotman: yes
<5> jelly-ho, well, it wont show up in the gnome resolution chooser
<16> can you install kde as a binary package under debian as well as other packages, without compiling sources
<8> elik: I'm looking at the log file, haven't seen the config yet.
<0> Chroni, apt-get install kde-core
<0> Chroni, or just kde
<13> unstable: strop.* ?
<5> jelly-ho... it restarted with my old config file...
<17> !beer /me
<5> jelly-ho, it didnt take what I did with dpkg-reconfigure..
<13> !info instanbul sid
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