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<0> sparr, trying to find out howto get the numbers outta dpkg
<1> mathieu: would be easier to install a k7 kernel, or such
<2> Neverth: im using "dpkg -l | wc -l"
<3> jetscreamer: i did get all my **** back though
<4> bucky it gives error in: /usr/include/c++/3.3/bits/stl_algo.h:212 undefinde reference to 'pcap_findalldevs'
<3> jetscreamer: and they didn't take my cash
<3> jetscreamer: and i probably deserved it
<3> jetscreamer: so i can't complain
<0> sparr, 2702
<3> jetscreamer: coulda been lots worse
<0> in this
<2> well, youre close to me
<0> dunno about the big amd
<2> but still, im gonna try to ditch some
<5> BEEP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
<2> do packages have any sort of "this is only a dependency" marking? for libraries and such



<6> Fox_1_, which version of libpcap do you have installed?
<4> bucky must I have installed mysql or pgsql??
<0> sparr, you can open package with dpkg-deb
<7> !wayttd sparr
<0> and look the insides, and in this case the control-file
<1> sparr: only with aptitude
<5> dpkg: hi
<8> niihau, abrotman
<1> sparr: but there's a 'deborphan' utility that may help you
<4> bucky 0.8 and 0.7, but dev package only for 0.7.
<9> quick question, how well would X run on a laptop with 128mb of ram, and a
<9> 1.2ghz processor?
<10> Tiger auditor recently came up with a few security problems which then disappeared on the next run. Should I be worried about this? I haven't found any other evidence of an attack. The messages are:
<10> "# Running chkrootkit (/usr/sbin/chkrootkit) to perform further checks...", "NEW: --WARN-- [rootkit004w] Chkrootkit has detected a possible rootkit installation" & "NEW: Warning: Possible LKM Trojan installed"
<6> Fox_1_, that's not what it says here http://www.tcpdump.org/lists/workers/2004/01/msg00032.html
<1> devicenull: pretty good, unless you try KDE with a lot of stuff, in which case you might prefer to have 256MB of ram
<4> bucky and what it says there? (i can't open it know)
<11> nijan, take a look at apt-zip
<2> yeah, orphans is what ill be looking for
<10> A look on google gave me the idea that these were a known false alarm. Can anyone confirm this?
<2> once i remove a few hundred games i was hoping for a way to remove libraries i dont need any more
<9> because right now my laptop is running XP, I'd like to move it over to debian :)
<4> ?
<12> devicenull: format it!!
<2> dpkg: nvidia-one-liner
<9> I cant right now
<2> ~nvidia-one-liner
<2> !nvidia-one-liner
<9> It's running some windows only software I need
<4> bucky ?
<2> apt nvidia one-liner
<13> apt-get install kernel-headers-$(uname -r) build-essential module-***istant && apt-get install -t unstable nvidia-kernel-common nvidia-kernel-source && m-a a-i nvidia && apt-get install -t unstable nvidia-glx nvidia-settings && echo nvidia >> /etc/modules && modprobe nvidia && dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86. Contrib, non-free, sid sources all needed. see <quick ...
<2> there we go
<14> devicenull: shrink the NTFS partition... Debian Installer can do this for you
<15> !tell sparr about msg the bot
<14> devicenull: I have tried it before :)
<2> chealer_: cant if i dont remember which bot :-p
<9> thats always an option, I could get about 10gb by shrinking it
<9> only problem is the machine lacks a cd-rom drive, so I would have to install over the network
<2> A lot of games are telling me this (then crashing): "Error: API mismatch: the NVIDIA kernel module is version 1.0.8174, but this library is version 1.0.8178. Please be sure that your kernel module and all NVIDIA driver files have the same driver version."
<12> devicenull: USB port?
<9> yea
<9> and I do have a USB HD enclosure
<9> which I could probably use
<16> I ln'd the things in /usr/bin to the things in /usr/share/java/jdk_/bin, but it still tries to use gij and gcj for some reason.
<12> devicenull: You can write the netinstall to a USB drive
<6> Fox_1_,
<6> You have to link with the 0.8.1
<16> And yeah, I rm'd everything related to gij
<9> Its got a floppy drive
<9> so that would work
<4> bucky, ok
<15> sparr: sure, just try them all
<6> Fox_1_, remove what ever libpcap you've got and apt-get install libpcap0.8 libpcap0.8-dev
<17> enyone got skype on 64bit system without chrooting
<15> sparr: paste the output of $ dpkg -l nvidia*; somewhere
<5> UFO: it's binary only .. check thier site
<14> devicenull: I don't think a floppy drive is essential...
<18> UFO: #debian-amd64 might know
<4> bucky i have installed libpcap0.8, libpcap0.8-dev and libpcap0.7. all tree:)
<9> well its better then booting off a usb drive I would think



<9> I dont even know if this laptop can
<19> OT: is it just me or are ebay, paypal, slashdot down?
<17> asg: thx
<12> devicenull: if your laptop can boot off of USB then it doesn't matter
<4> bucky and libpcap0.8 version is 0.8.3-5
<18> nisc: must be you, slashdot is fine
<19> ebay?
<20> yabe?
<14> nisc: just your town
<19> brrr
<6> Fox_1_, dpkg -l libpcap0.8-dev
<16> <16> I ln'd the things in /usr/bin to the things in /usr/share/java/jdk_/bin, but it still tries to use gij and gcj for some reason. How do I prevent it from doing so?
<2> chealer_: ive got the 8178 versions of everything
<21> hi
<18> freeone3000: /msg dpkg java-package
<22> what is the regular keybinding for switching deskops in kde?
<2> chealer_: problem is m-a is still targetting the 8174 package
<16> asg: apt-get's not finding it.
<15> sparr: I'd still appreciate a paste
<2> Setting up nvidia-kernel-source (1.0.8178-1) ... Target package file /usr/src/nvidia-kernel-2.6.14-1-k7_1.0.8174-1+2.6.14-1_i386.deb already exists, not rebuilding!
<2> ok
<18> freeone3000: what version of Debian are you running?
<12> !tell freeone3000 -about contrib
<22> ive only used gnome sofar, but kde actually doesnt seem to be that bad
<16> Linux debian 2.4.27-2-386 #1 Wed Aug 17 09:33:35 UTC 2005 i686 GNU/Linux
<4> bucky i think i found the problem i have install libpcap0.7-dev not libpcap0.8-dev
<18> freeone3000: then see what dvs said above
<2> http://rafb.net/paste/results/yZ4TEF80.html
<23> hello.. i am using dhcp and my net goes down sometimes.. and i need to redo dhclient eth0 to get back on net connection
<15> sparr: which kernel do you run?
<24> hello i am running celestia-gnome in gnome in sarge i backported the celestia from etch to sarge thanks to help from #debian
<23> are there any utilities to manage this automatically? i am looking for a small utitility which checks for net connection when it goes down frequently
<2> chealer_: 2.6.14-1-k7
<4> bucky i have only libpcap0.7-dev and haven't libpcap0.8-dev
<15> sparr: "ii nvidia-kernel-2. 1.0.8174-1+2.6.1 NVIDIA binary kernel module for Linux 2.6.14-1-k..."
<6> Fox_1_, remove what ever libpcap you've got and apt-get install libpcap0.8 libpcap0.8-dev
<15> sparr: your nvidia kernel module is out of date.
<16> Thank you.
<4> bucky i haven't libpcap0.8-dev
<15> sparr: BTW, did you consider upgrading to 2.6.15?
<2> chealer_: yes. and m-a is supposed to use "nvidia-kernel-so 1.0.8178-1 NVIDIA binary kernel module source" to fix that :-p
<24> the celestia manual says there is a keybinding in celestia to write to the clipboard a special celestia url customized: cel:blah-blah-blah data about a celestia location
<7> from what I gather on wikipedia of the 1x-4x AGP cards they are forward and backward compatable as long as the voltage is right and they say 1x/2x is 3.3v and 4x/8x is 1.5v I believe my compaq mobo has a 4x AGP slot in addition to the onboard video so I should be able to buy a 8x card and run it at 4x right?
<6> Fox_1_, apt-get remove libpcap0.7-dev && apt-get install libpcap0.8-dev
<12> At least now I know that the contrib factoid works right
<0> why cant people use nvidia-installer.....
<24> you are supposed to be able to paste that cel: url into emails or onto web sites
<7> you really are hardpressed to find a 4x these days, and they are old and ****.. I would like at least a geforce5200 and maybe a dual card.. fairly cheap
<15> Neverth: they can
<2> Neverth: because it puts files in very different places from where debian likes them, which causes lots of problems
<4> bucky I HAVEN'T LIBPCAP0.8-DEV PACKAGE !!!
<6> Fox_1_, install the god damn thing
<15> sparr: and what happens with m-a a-i nvidia; ?
<2> chealer_:
<4> bucky from where???
<2> Extracting the package tarball, /usr/src/nvidia-kernel-source.tar.gz, please wait...
<2> Target package file /usr/src/nvidia-kernel-2.6.14-1-k7_1.0.8174-1+2.6.14-1_i386.deb already exists, not rebuilding!
<24> and any1 recieving that one their computer who is also running celestia they are supposed to be able to click on the link
<0> sparr, so, it works here enough good
<2> Neverth: do you compile opengl apps?
<2> s/apps/games/
<0> sometimes
<25> !popcon
<8> Popcon is the Debian Popularity contest. See results at http://popcon.debian.org/ or install popularity-contest to participate. do the dpkg-reconfigure popularity-contest right after you answered all debconf stuff
<24> if they have celestia installed but not running i guess it is invoked
<0> those need mesa devel packages
<26> I see a moderately offer, but they offer PPPoE connections. I now use DSL and I am not aware of using PPPoE. I just plug in the ethernet cable and go :) PPPoe does not have this feature I guess?
<2> straight ogl? not linked-against-something-that-is-linked-against-ogl?
<6> Fox_1_, what distro are you running?
<15> sparr: what does # m-a -i a-b nvidia; output?
<0> do you count ***embly-opengl?
<4> bucky debian 3.1
<24> if they have celestia alreadty running it is to reset itself to the location coded into the url
<2> chealer_: same thing


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