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<0> i was not the amdinistator who installed cyrus
<1> acad: eww. sounds awfull
<0> i'm just curious- because we have another server which has not been hacked with cyrus on it.
<1> acad: i find it hard to believe (though not impossible) that a debian installed package creates a ssh user without a p***word
<0> thats what i thought
<0> * hmm
<1> acad: so, go read every bit of documentation that debian provides for the package on your system
<1> and i guess, the obligatory warning "take the box off the net untill you diagnose.." :)
<0> i'll look into it some more some other time, this isn't urgent as i've solved the problem. it's just a concern as i am suprised this happened.
<0> yes, i did take the box down
<1> certainly surprising
<1> gah, if i lean back in my couch, my tv goes fuzzy! :(
<2> back :)
<2> liable, what is yay :D
<1> yay == good
<2> liable, is it english ?
<1> or, sweet, excellent, cool, nice great, etc etc
<1> aboyousif: i guess its english slang
<3> is there a tool which can rip a cd to mp3?
<2> liable, i am not good in the formal english .. and you talk with me in slang .. looool
<1> aboyousif: no worries cobber
<4> How do you fix the pesky ssh bug where when the terminal window is resized the line length is messed up and causes the lines to come back up on themselves making a mess of text
<2> liable, loool define cobber :)
<2> btw: any good dictionary in linux ( english -english or english -arabic )
<1> aboyousif: cobber == mate, friend, bungy, buddy,
<1> aboyousif: i am from .au, so we have some strange english here :)
<2> liable, aha .. good
<1> especially if you haved lived 'out bush'
<5> what is the recommended way of setting variables like "export VISUAL=/usr/bin/vi" so that sensible-editor will pick it up?
<5> I'm using gdm, so my .bashrc is never sourced.
<5> nor my .bash_profile
<1> dooglus: you want to set editor to vi?
<5> liable: I do
<5> liable: well, to /usr/local/bin/emacs, really, but whatever...
<1> dooglus: update-alternatives --config editor?
<5> liable: that doesn't affect the value of VISUAL
<5> liable: and also won't stop 'sensible-editor' running 'nano'
<1> ok, dunno what that is
<5> it's an environment variable.
<1> cant you set sensible-editor too?
<5> basically, my question is, "how do I set an environment variable in my X environment when starting it from gdm?"
<5> liable: sensible-editor is a script in /usr/bin/
<1> dooglus: oh
<6> dooglus: did you try /etc/environment?
<6> though I'm not sure gdm sources that
<1> dooglus: no ****ing clue then :)
<5> azeem: I don't have permission to edit that.
<5> azeem: it's owned by root
<6> dooglus: then set it in your ~/.bash*
<6> hrm
<5> azeem: I'm not running any shells, so .bash* doesn't get sourced
<6> yeah, I see that now
<5> azeem: I boot into runlevel 2, that runs gdm, which runs xfce-session, or whatever, which runs a panel, which runs sensible-editor. no shells anywhere.
<4> How do you fix the pesky ssh bug where when the terminal window is resized the line length is messed up and causes the lines to come back up on themselves making a mess of text
<7> dooglus: .xsession is of no use?
<5> cahoot: I'll try it, thanks.
<5> cahoot: you're right. .xsession is of no use
<1> noderat: this sint a screen session you are connecting to?
<5> liable: I think if it was a screen session it would be better
<7> dooglus: http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/344 might be better
<1> dooglus: why?
<8> what is the actual equivalent of mkinitrd in etch ? I need to p*** --with=<module> --preload raid5 options ...
<5> liable: screen notices when the terminal changes size, and rearranges things, doesn't it?
<1> dooglus: hrm, doesnt for me.
<9> bleh
<1> dooglus: if i start a session on my laptop and then go to my work box with putty and a crt, i miss the end of lines. in irssi anyway
<8> liable: using screen ?
<10> dooglus: I think there's a way to request a screen-check-query, but I don't think it usually does so automagically
<1> doublehp: yeah
<5> liable: it just so happens I am ssh'ed into a box running irssi inside screen right now.
<1> dooglus: shrug, thats what i have found.
<5> I just made the window bigger and your last utterance changed from being 3 lines long to 2 lines long, properly laid out
<8> liable: you shall resize a bit your putty window, to ensure screen is aware of YOUR size ... I mean, not always make it bigger, but just change size to force update of term infos ...
<2> guys , what is the best image browser in debian .. is f-spot can work on it ?
<8> liable: if using screen -rx, then putty HAS TO be bigger than local terminal; note that it is possible to remotly detach the local cession so that you wont need -x even if you forgot detach before leaving home.
<5> aboyousif: I like gqview. I don't understand your "is f-spot can" construction
<7> aboyousif: got your botting problem sorted?
<1> doublehp: yeah, tried all that, must be doing something wrong i guess. but if i started a new screen session, it was fine
<7> aboyousif: err - booting
<5> liable: "screen -r -d"
<8> liable: when you make putty bigger, do you get EOL ?
<2> cahoot , yes it does . thanks :)
<2> dooglus, f-spot is able to work on debian ?
<1> the laptop is 1400x1050 the work box is 1026x7whatever it is
<5> aboyousif: I never heard of f-spot
<2> dooglus, http://www.f-spot.org/Main_Page
<5> !info f-spot
<8> liable: try to resize putty win until you either see "------" at bottom of win, or see things getting resized ... 1st case = term is attached somewhere else; 2nd case = you are the only attached one
<5> aboyousif: there's a package in 'main' called f-spot though
<11> f-spot: (personal photo management application), section gnome, is optional. Version: 0.1.11-2 (sid), Packaged size: 820 kB, Installed size: 2940 kB
<6> f-spot is mono-based, but supposedly very nice
<5> ^--- heheh, he used 'mono' and 'nice' in the same sentence :)
<8> liable: in 2nd case, if you see the "whole cession" but not OEL, then, we can conclude you have a problem with charset compatibility, or not fully compliant term; then, try: export TERM=vt100, or linux, or xterm or other ones
<6> dooglus: sure
<1> doublehp: i ****d with it for a while, couldnt seem to get it to resixe at all, messed with all the putty ****s, dunno, will try again when i go back to work
<2> azeem, mono is great and has a good apps as well beagle and blam
<6> all new cool applications are written in mono
<8> liable: still in this 2nd case, also check if putty encodings are ok.
<2> dooglus, mono is great
<6> anyway, let's not discuss mono here
<1> is mono web2.0 compatible? :P
<2> liable, grrrrr
<12> yeah. once you start discussing mono, syphillis is next.
<5> I tried installing f-spot - "After unpacking 37.9MB of additional disk space will be used". Think I'll stick with gqview...
<8> liable: I gave up putty on the day I discovered XliveCD : its a live CD that starts Xorg in Cygwin, without HDD installation under Windows. Live means ... working without install, not booting it !
<1> gqview is nice
<13> dooglus: while gqview is nice, mono has its purposes too
<9> .
<1> doublehp: yeah, i dunno what the work box actually has, but its a dialup connection so its prolly a winmodem
<8> liable: if you find that reliable, then you can choose to install Cygwin+X on HDD, either using the same CD, or taking it from scratch from sites; this way, you inherit all UNIX tools: xterm, ssh, rsync ... what helps a lot tunneling (httptunnels), and X forwarding issues like the one you got today
<5> SerajewelKS: I didn't find any compelling mono apps yet. beagle is OK, but a real hog on this box.
<8> liable: XliveCD is a nice replacement for putty ! whatever dialup or not
<8> what is the actual equivalent of mkinitrd in etch ? I need to p*** --with=<module> --preload raid5 options ...
<13> dooglus: of course not, gtk# API is still stabalizing
<13> dooglus: and the mono cl***lib isn't finished, neither for .NET 1.1 nor 2.0
<14> hello there
<14> what happened to secure-testing.debian.net ?
<1> doublehp: i dont understand, it works inside windows?
<13> dooglus: but i can say with firsthand experience that it makes it really easy to write nice programs, so i expect to see quite a bit of good stuff soon. also see Gtk# on wikipedia, it has a list of stuff using it.
<13> dooglus: or rather the mono article
<8> liable: sure ; dont you know what Cygwin is ?
<15> SerajewelKS you are always here speaking, go to the beach
<13> driller-: you wanna pay the plane ticket be my guest
<8> liable: verbatim version even has Gnome !
<5> SerajewelKS: ok, thanks
<10> alright, so I've got this port replicator for my laptop here. If I put the laptop on APM suspend, I can hotplug the port replicator, but I can't seem to get it to detect the ethernet port -- which is, incidentally, the primary reason I use the thing at all.. Here's some dmesg output after APM resume: http://channels.debian.net/paste/2788
<15> SerajewelKS where are you
<8> liable: imagine Gnome under Win2k :)
<1> eww, gnome!
<13> driller-: a place with no beaches within driving distance, why
<8> liable: thats a possibility, which is not in XliveCD :) please, do consider burning this ...
<16> driller-: the 'KS' stands for "2000 km from the beach in any direction", but I don't think he lives _here_ anymore
<1> i think i will stick with putty on the occasions i have spare time to ssh in and irc
<13> peterS: actually it doesn't
<16> SerajewelKS: oh, didn't it mean Overland Park, Kansas or something like that?
<13> peterS: my nick seems to conjure up images of a female living in kansas. neither are true. nor have been to my knowledge...
<8> liable: http://xlivecd.indiana.edu/ , just give it a try ... and if you think there s not enough tools, install it from http://x.cygwin.com/ or http://www.cygwin.com/
<16> SerajewelKS: I could've sworn we'd been through this before and you had formerly lived near KC. I guess my mind really is going
<13> peterS: i think we went through it before and i told you i was not from kansas, then you forgot =)
<16> clearly
<10> doublehp: is that a windows-runnable live cygwin cd?
<8> Vasistha: y
<13> peterS: apparently i am either really good or really bad at choosing nicks
<10> doublehp: dude, that is so cool, I'm like so there ... (to slip into 'valley girl' for a moment)
<8> Vasistha: with Xorg support, and ssh and xterm ... allows better X importing than with putty
<10> doublehp: Xorg? now that's maybe a little over the top... but heck, why not, I guess
<13> Vasistha: yeah it's so damn cool to run a nice FOSS environment inside of a proprietary, closed environment
<13> </rant>
<8> Vasistha: the only interest of that CD is to get Xorg on windows, to allow full X11 forwarding !
<10> doublehp: oh... hmm, but people have made a cygwin livecd... I'd want it just for bash, etc, when fixing f'ing windows problems
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