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<0> mhall: it's just a lifestyle choice, chow down all ya want :)
<1> Vasistha: home of hp norcal
<2> it's a place I've heard of, not a place I've been
<1> Gnea: i'm not critcizing
<1> Vasistha: zoom out
<1> i'm the opposite
<1> vegetables are the one food i don't wat
<1> eat*
<1> i eat all the others with glee
<0> mhall: i used to feel the same way, until the past several times i went there and was presented with something that had more grease than meat and bread - plus i work in the food industry again, so i have a pretty good clue as to what ingredients make up certain foods and which are more ****ed up than others :)
<1> Gnea: mmhmm
<3> how can I move a directory?
<2> Elive_user5: well, you can go with whatever distro you want, but this particular channel is for debian support. If you want support in this channel, you'll have to go with debian, otherwise you can seek help elsewhere.
<2> veamoss: mv
<3> corry, cpy
<0> mhall: and you're a college student - congratulations, you've been permanently hypnotized and under full control of the US government. would you like fries with that? ;)
<3> sorry,copy
<1> Gnea: reminds me of a good line. relationships are like sausage. you don't want to know what does into them.
<2> veamoss: cp -a
<2> veamoss: try man cp
<1> Gnea: not so fast. i'm an employed graduate of a private liberal arts and tech university
<1> Gnea: i don't even trust the open-minded questioning types that worked there. i question the questioners.
<0> mhall: ooooh oooooh, a graduate. then they stamped you, too
<3> I've entered my other machine.. and I want to copy a directory from there to here, do you know what I mean?
<0> mhall: fair enough :)
<1> Gnea: which ironically makes me more establishment than they were
<2> heh heh, I graduated from ucla, one of the best places on earth to be brainwashed...
<1> Gnea: because i discovered that the establishment is right most of the time
<4> in order to be brainwashed, you have to be a willing participant...
<0> i'm a dropout trying to get my degree again
<1> dondelelcaro: what about stockholm syndrom
<1> syndrome*
<0> if you want money, and a roof over your head, you will participate....
<1> Gnea: well it's market driven though
<0> so, moving on
<2> dondelelcaro: I dunno... what do you think of Vietnam POW's who become slave laborers and completely forgot their pasts?
<1> Gnea: so it's not like it's that bad. you can vote with your pocket book.
<0> mhall: make it a double-double ;)
<0> those were the best man
<1> Gnea: right. i vote with my pocketbook by avoiding other fast food joints
<1> Gnea: that's why i've gotten to thinking more people should take intro to econ
<1> Gnea: it made me realize, you know what, i have the power to choose here because i'm the customer, so **** them all
<0> mhall: i've taken 3 economic courses in my time
<2> hum, I took an econ course
<1> Gnea: so i buy a lot less stuff than i used to, from a lot fewer vendors.
<2> heh, I shop at the farmers' market every week for most of my food ... from quite a few vendors, in fact!
<1> Gnea: of course there are some places where this breaks down. environmental policy for example.
<0> mhall: pour vegetable oil into your gas tank!
<1> Gnea: generally, places where one person can gain a whole lot off of damaging things for others, without much accountability
<1> Gnea: i'm planning to get a hybrid car when i have more money
<5> <1> Gnea: so i buy a lot less stuff t
<1> Gnea: would have gladly paid for a hybrid pickup truck but they did not have them at the time i was buying
<1> Gnea: the state rebates are liberal, you can drive in the HOV lane, and the service is free the first few years, and they take less repair in general
<0> mhall: i just picked up a 40mpg gas guzzler, it's basically about the same thing as a hybrid, although not quite
<5> xchat seems nice, but does it have as much scripting capabilities as mirc have?
<1> Gnea: the extra 5000 USD would be a pittance on a 0% car loan like I got
<1> Gnea: esp when you get the rebates and the other good **** that they throw in to sweeten the pot
<0> mhall: it depends who you get it from, too - toyota just recalled about a million priuses
<1> Gnea: recall repairs are free. no big deal.
<2> Elive_user5: dunno, it vey well might. There are quite a few xchat users around, though I'm not one of them.
<6> Had to laugh a couple of weeks ago when i saw a 45 foot RV bus powered by vegetable oil. and heated by a franklin woodstove on EBay.
<1> Gnea: out here you can book repair appointments on saturday if you call ahead because of work
<0> mhall: yet, it takes them off of the road and prevents new buyers from getting one at the time.
<1> Gnea: that's the price of early adoption
<6> Are there a lot old hippies in Colorado?
<0> mhall: damn straight
<0> iiiears: apparantly - they're convincing the younger generation to drop out of school faster than the rest of the country
<1> Gnea: it could have happened to any new car. i had a new model year of sedan one time and the fuel system failed and started leaking fuel out the injection lines.
<1> Gnea: $1200 to fix. thank God for extended warranty
<0> mhall: ouch
<5> so whats the most popular client for irc
<7> Elive_user5: /msg dpkg popcon
<1> Gnea: another time its automatic transmission decided it'd be funny to only go into reverse
<0> mhall: that's why i prefer full control - manual transmission only
<1> Gnea: so my dad and i grabbed the shifter and yanked until it went into drive
<0> lol
<8> dondelelcaro: you here?
<1> Gnea: and left it alone all the way down the mountains, driving straight to the dealer with no stops
<0> slippery clutches, gotta love 'em
<5> so is popcon as script-capable as mirc is ?
<1> Gnea: $2000 in damage.
<4> sid: ?
<1> Gnea: extended warranty.
<7> !tell Elive_user5 about popcon
<1> Gnea: $DEITY.
<8> dondek: May I private message you?
<4> sid: sure
<0> mhall: good thing the brakes worked huh
<1> hmm i used to know a real young dude named sid that made some hilarious hacking debs
<1> sid: are you that sid?
<4> /whois unstable
<4> stupid space
<8> mhall: no that's not me.
<8> I'm sid ( unstable )
<5> with which wm does debian come with by default
<1> an appropriate kind of software to release being sid, when you consider the modern meaning of the term, both in debian and in its source movie
<3> how do I configure alsa?
<1> unstable: hehe h4x0r
<1> simonrvn: simon!!!
<9> hi
<3> alsaconf?
<1> simonrvn: i gotta go get a burger. bbiab. :)
<9> :)
<1> simonrvn: oh and i got VOIP to work with good call quality.
<10> who here wants to fix the dependencies on a package?
<11> hehe, I can only speak as "unstable" if I change my nick I become banned and moderated, so can not send text to channel.
<1> simonrvn: using the twinkle SIP phone client. a nice little app.
<5> whats the key shortcut to minimize a window
<9> i saw that :). nice
<10> Elive_user5: where?
<11> Elive_user5: What desktop enviroment or window manager?
<10> what window manager? what key settings?
<1> unstable: that's what happens when you use tor
<5> enlightenment
<5> lets say I download a file with linux and I write it in ext3, then how can I copy it to ntfs with 100% accuracy and reliability ?
<10> anyone know who the package maintainer for naim is?
<4> !maintainer naim
<10> Elive_user5: copy it to a FAT32 partition, load windows, move it over
<12> naim: has nothing about maintainer
<2> Elive_user5: ntfs write-support is *experimental* in linux. basically, you can't
<4> !+maint naim
<12> naim: Rohit Pidaparthi <rohitpid@comcast.net>
<11> tonsofpcs: Maintainer: Rohit Pidaparthi <rohitpid@comcast.net>
<5> fat32 support is 100% ok in linux?
<2> Elive_user5: you can also use explore2fs in windows to look at files on your ext3 partition
<0> Elive_user5: yes
<2> Elive_user5: yeah, fat32 support is reliable.
<11> tonsofpcs: apt-cache show package
<10> anyone know if Rohit Pidaparthi is ever on here or one of the other IRC networks?
<2> Elive_user5: it's worth noting that fat32 cannot support files larger than 4 GB (e.g. dvd images)
<10> unstable: apt-cache is searching stable, I'm more interested in the one for testing ;)
<4> tonsofpcs: what is the problem?
<5> then linux ****s hard
<5> I cant download files, I cant do anything
<5> I cant write a document even
<2> Elive_user5: if you're going to complain, try #windows
<5> all data will be lost
<9> o_O
<5> am I right ?
<2> Elive_user5: maybe you can't, but I can do all those things without any trouble
<4> Elive_user5: uh... we all use linux just fine. If you have a real question, please ask. Otherwise, please go elsewhere.
<0> Elive_user5: you need to take the time to learn it
<5> Vasistha, how you can and I cannot ?
<10> dondelelcaro: well the testing package works fine on stable, but it has two dependencies with too high of version numbers (even the developer asked why he's testing for the point releases)
<0> Elive_user5: because Vasistha knows how, because he took the time, just like everyone else in here, to read and learn how it works
<4> tonsofpcs: which dependencies are you talking about
<2> Elive_user5: There was probably a time in the past when you could not download files in windows either -- someone taught you how to do it.
<4> tonsofpcs: if they're library dependencies, that's likely because the api/abi of the libraries have changed since the stable release
<0> Elive_user5: how about a web browser, does that work for you?
<10> dondelelcaro: it wants libc6 >= 2.3.5-1 (its working fine with 2.3.2.ds1-22sarge3), libncurses >= 5.4-5 (5.4-4 works fine)
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