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<0> hello, do you know what in udev or in the new user-mode-linux package broke networking?
<1> DaBlade: I have choose to use RAID1 so that my 2 HDD are mirrored. But with (software) RAID you can choose to get more performance an not use for safe usage
<2> What was the package to allow access to NTFS File systems ?
<3> DaBlade, hmmm fsck said it could not find a superblock on it... I was right to not mount is before running fsck? It said to use --rebuild-sb but I can`t get that to work
<1> !ntfs
<4> ntfs is probably Microsoft's attempt to create a Unix-like filesystem. linux-ntfs.sourceforge.net is a good source of information. you need umask=022,gid=xxx to access the partition as non-root. See also http://linuxmafia.com/faq/Filesystems/ntfs.html, or ask me about captiventfs
<5> Gokee2: As I said, I never did anything with RAID or anything.. I'm just making guesses.
<0> ntfsprogs
<6> !ntfs author
<5> itchi: I don't really need it.
<6> nice quote
<5> itchi: I'm a file sharer. Storage capacity, and not performance matters to me.
<3> DaBlade, eh? I don`t have a raid... I said I want to set one up sometime
<5> Oh.
<0> !ntfsprogs
<5> Well, I never had hard drive trouble either so I'm not experienced with that either. :P
<1> Gokee2: Software RAID are RAID but with software and simple ide pata/sata HDD
<6> Is software RAID any faster? Much cheaper i know.
<3> Ah I needed to use fsck.ext3
<1> iiiears: I can not tell about it
<7> Damn it. Somebody to whom I mistakenly gave my email address keeps insisting upon sending me glurge.
<7> Yecch!
<8> Gokee2, indeed. after a while, the beauty of hotswapping out a failed raid becomes apparent.
<9> Gokee2: I have had an HDD on my server die once, and my backup server twice. :(
<10> which is the xserver command to reconfigure it-
<10> ?
<6> Invitations to poker sites or pr0n? If it's pr0n do you have his name? - rofl
<3> ouch
<9> Gokee2: If I could afford it, I'd definetly play with raid.
<8> i've gone through piles of hds through the years.
<9> Actually, I suspect the last hdd failure I had was a dust and heat problem.
<11> !tell veamoss -about drxx
<12> i get to hot swap out a failed raid every couple days, on a 15x300 array
<3> fsck.ext3 says everything checks out on the drive
<7> iiiears: talk about the worst kind of data files to lose
<9> CompWizrd: What's that?
<10> thanks
<12> Arafangion: Maxtor Maxline 7v300f0's, with firmware va111670
<8> CompWizrd, thats a big array.
<12> need to call maxtor and get the va111680 firmware
<12> va111630 and below don't work with nforce4 either
<7> iiiears: God help my drive manufacturer if I ever lose pr0n off of one of their disks.
<9> CompWizrd: Was wondering if that was a 15 times 300 disc array!
<11> !**** maxtor
<12> oh, it is 15x300 gig
<11> dang
<9> CompWizrd: Nice.
<7> CompWizrd: Is it full?
<12> 3ware 9550SX-16ML controller, in a 133mhz pci-x slot
<12> mhall: about one third.
<7> CompWizrd: If so, from what, and can I get some of the backup media.
<12> would you like me to archive your porn?
<8> CompWizrd, you lose 1 of 15 disks every 2-3 days?
<7> CompWizrd: You can archive it if you want.
<12> shogunx: they need to be powered off, and plugged back in and then it works again
<12> it's a firmware bug with the maxline's
<12> maxtor says they've fixed it, i just haven't gotten around to getting the latest version
<8> CompWizrd, ahh. comprendo.
<9> CompWizrd: The whole point of raid is reliabily, that should never happen :(
<12> Arafangion: yeah, learning that the hardway
<12> but it's fast!
<7> CompWizrd: my upload is not real good. i tried to get FTTH but it's not available yet
<12> 600+ meg per second reads, 200 meg writes
<7> CompWizrd: if i had the local FTTH service i could give you 10mbit access
<3> damn
<3> Its annoying having my main computer down
<12> without any tuning besides fixing blockdev --setra to sometihng sane
<8> mhall if only we had local FTTH!
<3> without synergy all my old keyboards come out
<7> the bets part about 10mbit X 10mbit FTTH is it's only $50 per month
<7> shogunx: ya rly, it's also amazingly cheap see above ^^^
<8> mhall we always get everything last in florida.
<7> shogunx: supposedly it's available a few blocks away. i hope and i pray, for the very sacred day
<12> oh, and 2 opteron 265's in the machine as well.. lots of cpu power available
<8> indeed
<7> shogunx: except political cockups and felons. you get them first.
<12> draws 400 watts at the wall, idle.
<8> mhall well, they have to train somewhere...
<7> CompWizrd: hmm, 400 watts. watt the hell is going on inside your power meter?
<7> hmm. electricity is what, 20 cents per kwh
<12> mhall: about 10, canadian :)
<12> cents
<12> 5 for the electricity and 5 for distribution
<7> CompWizrd: your machine costs perhaps a toonie a day
<8> CompWizrd, you need some solid state storage. would pay for itself quick enough in power alone:)
<12> but anyways, 15 hard drives, 2 dual core cpu's, a 760 watt redundant power supply, a trident 9440 video card, and the 3ware card
<1> CompWizrd: Actually speed=3204K/sec i need to fine tune a bit, but i wait, like i have start the setup of the RAID1 and the second disk are now on recovery
<10> 'E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)' what does it mean?
<7> shogunx: i dunno. 15x300GB is A LOT of RAM
<12> the fun part is, i've pulled two modules out of the power supply whiel it was running, and it kept going
<7> shogunx: and RAM apparently gets pretty hot when you have that much of it in one place --> lots o' watts
<3> er... does anyone know the name of the console part editer? The one thats not command line
<12> even though each module is only rated for 380 watts each
<7> CompWizrd: don't do thayt
<8> mhall more power than spinning motors?
<7> shogunx: for small sizes probably not
<12> mhall: i'd rather find out while testing the machine that the power supply will blow up when someone pulls two out of three cords out accidentally
<12> :)
<1> Gokee2: cfdisk
<7> shogunx: but for 15x300 GB it might be a wash
<9> CompWizrd: How many HDD's can you loose and still have your data?
<12> Arafangion: one. :)
<3> itchi, Thats it! Thanks
<7> CompWizrd: hmm. that's scary.
<9> CompWizrd: That's scary.
<12> yes.
<8> mhall yep, more than likely. then again, you don't need to raid it.
<1> Gokee2: It's an easy to use ;-)
<7> CompWizrd: pray nobody ever does that
<9> CompWizrd: You should have at least 2 for that number.
<12> that's why there's an external 16 slot DLT-V4 autoloader
<12> and a single 1U DLT-v4 drive
<7> shogunx: hmm but you gotta have battery backup and ECC memory i suppose
<12> and it's a backup server anyways, so if the whole thing goes up in fire i'll pee on it, and we'll buy new hardware
<7> CompWizrd: this computer probably costs $30000
<12> mhall: under 10k ,with the tape drives, if i remember right
<12> dell/hp/ibm wanted about 20k without the tape drives
<8> mhall well, thats nice too, of course, but there a re ide flash disks on the market now. expensive, $400 for 8 gigs.
<7> CompWizrd: ! robot tape drives are ... expensive as ****
<6> CompWizrd: Poweroff before you pee on it. - lol
<7> CompWizrd: and aren't the tapes nearly $100 each
<12> mhall: 3500 for the 2.56 TB array, tapes are about 35 bucks each for 160/320 gig tapes
<12> runs at about 8 meg a second for backups
<7> CompWizrd: hmm the sites i used to surf must've been bull**** sites
<12> so it's slower than say an LTO, but a lot cheaper
<12> uses VS1 dlt tapes
<7> CompWizrd: LTO?
<12> linear tape something
<12> LTO is the high end in standard business level tapes
<8> mhall if your power was stable enough (read triply redundant) a big fat ram**** might be fun:)
<7> CompWizrd: hmm these days i've heard it's often cheaper to back up onto a SAN
<12> mhall: yeah, but the SAN costs more than the entire server
<12> :)
<7> CompWizrd: there are some SATA ones that don't cost too much
<7> CompWizrd: one of my friends worked at the national lab and they got one
<12> yeah, but this machine is a backup server.. it's only needed when the desktops die
<8> CompWizrd, not to mention SAN's being wastes of computing power in thier hosts.
<7> shogunx: that's the point
<12> oh, and it takes awhile to e2fsck 3.8 T
<7> shogunx: waste the CPU in *one* place
<7> CompWizrd: don't use e2 on 3.8 TB
<12> oh, and the 15x300 array? boots off a 16 meg compact flash card in a CF to ide adapter
<12> mhall: e3 :)
<7> CompWizrd: you should have used at minumum e3 and probably jfs since i think jfs supports file contents journals
<8> mhall yep. i like penguinizing SANs for the usually powerful hosts in them.
<1> CompWizrd: I setup RAID1 with 2 pata ide disk of 80 GB as data backup server. Normally i put an 3 ide on it when i have move my *** :-/
<12> my other dual opteron 265 is a samba and postgresql db
<7> CompWizrd: XFS is kind of bad for a backup because because it only journals metadata, which doesn't work if there's a failure in the middle of an appended file
<12> the postgresql database fits in the l2 cache on the opterons.
<12> not sure why i bought so much power :)
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