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<0> dos000 so far, so good:)
<1> shogunx: taht didn't work either
<2> shogunx: i cant stop it from creating the /var/www/.ssh directory ?
<0> Bone_Thug are you on a compaq?
<1> ....no
<1> del
<1> dell*
<3> dos000, that isn't something i've done, but perhaps sudo scp?
<0> Bone_Thug alt +f7 gives you a blank screen?
<3> dos000 so you're doing it as someone else (yourself)?
<1> shogunx: alt-f7, doesn't give me anything
<1> nothing happens
<1> i jstu sit there at the prompt like normal
<0> dos000 create /var/www/.ssh as root, so its unwritable by www-data?
<2> parsonsd: i am trying to mimick the permissions of the php user which will be executing the script
<3> Bone_Thug -- what is at [alt]-f1?



<0> for those of you who were wondering, yes, i make lots of nasty kludges.
<1> i never tried it
<1> let me go try it
<3> why does bone_thug keep logging out?
<2> parsonsd: the script is called from a php applications. so the user who will be executing this is www-data
<4> shogunx: you say that were if it good =)
<0> parsonsd minor case of cranial rectal inversion?
<3> dos000, sorry, best i can suggest is try something like what shogunx suggested.
<3> dos000, i've no idae
<5> I'm kind of newish to linux. I set up a box at home, as a web server, mail server, etc. Runs headless in my basement. I installed SUSE 10 on it, by default, because that's what we use at work. But it seems that Smart People I know are using debian. Could someone point me to some documentation that will teach me the basic differences between these two linux distributions?
<2> shogunx:var/www is already owned by root
<0> mhall you do what you have to do sometimes. i learned that installing car stereos... if the alan wrench set is all the way across the install bay, and the torx wrench in your pocket will work, don't bother getting up.
<0> dos000 can www-data write to it?
<3> shogunx, seems like that would render either everyone able to read the id_rsa key or no one
<0> parsonsd noone, most likely, depending on permissions.
<3> shogunx, might not matter if the keyset is specified, tho
<0> parsonsd thats a good point.
<2> shogunx: i dont like it ... can i not just decide where ssh will put his junk ?
<3> shogunx, well, i'm thinking that if no one can read it, then no key can be used
<0> dos000 you are right, there is probably a better solution. hold on...
<2> i tried -B with no result
<3> dos000, default location for the stuff is $HOME, but i doubt that www-data gets a home
<0> try -i or -F
<2> shogunx: i am already using -i
<4> shogunx: lol
<4> !bitchslap parsonsd
<4> parsonsd: www-data:x:33:33:www-data:/var/www:/bin/sh
<3> *pardon me*
<6> is there an RSS reader that shows news feeds in a scrolling bar, kinda like the bottom of CNN
<4> parsonsd: ;-)
<3> mhall i stand corrected
<7> don't suppose anyone knows what the deb equiv of bsd pam's 'template_user' is?
<4> parsonsd: nyuk nyuk nyuk
<8> i do believe i have a patch for nvidia-glx-legacy kernel module :)
<8> i just need to test it
<2> mhall: anything wrong if ssh creates its know hosts in var/www/ .. it seems so odd !
<0> dos000 change www-data's home directory in /etc/p***wd perhaps?
<4> dos000: i'm trying to think about if it might be a security issue
<0> dos000 to something more sane that the whole internet can't get to.
<3> mhall, that's a good point. why do i have a www-data user (yeah yeah, same line) when i don't have httpd running..?
<4> parsonsd: it's a stock component of debian
<0> dos000 unless apache chroots, which would then be bad.
<2> mhall: the weird thing is no one can stop ssh from creating these stupid files
<0> parsonsd it creates the user when its installed. as long as it has /bin/false as its shell and no string for the p***word in /etc/shadow, it should be no problem.
<4> dos000: correct; it tracks server fingerprints for security reasons
<0> oh, sorry, not the bin/false part.
<0> that would break things too, methinks.
<0> how about scp -o with the UserKnownHostsFile variable set that way.
<3> shogunx, just looking at that -- wondered why default was a real shell
<0> cgi-bin
<3> but i don't have web running, so whoopie.
<0> www-data must be able to execute cgi apps.
<3> i *do* have smbd running. weird.
<2> shogunx: good for me then
<0> dos000 cool.
<9> hi
<0> parsonsd not sure on the old windows ipsec problem. i solved your particular issue there by giving my wife a server and an xterminal to work from.
<9> why is it that when I issue xfs_repair -n /dev/hdb5, it tells me that /dev/hdb5 "contains a mounted and writable filesystem" followed by "fatal error -- couldn't initialize XFS library"?? It's not mounted at all! In fact, I umounted it before issuing the command.
<0> Roey what does /etc/mtab say about it?



<10> here's the senario: i have a server running debian and then i have a group of machines also running debian, how would i go about configuring the group of workstations to get all their updates from the server and do so automatically?
<0> mada set your server as the host called in /etc/apt/sources.list and run apt-get update && apt-get upgrade from a cron job on the workstations, after first building your repository of packages on the server.
<3> shogunx, i'd like to do that -- she likes gnome's look, she particularly enjoys that Epiphany has feet (their logo) and everyone seems to enjoy some of the xscreensaver screensavers, but activex provides her with a remote login at work.
<2> is there a way to make scp create the direcotories ala (mkdir -p) when you copy a file ?
<1> showgunx: you still here? that alt f1 or f7 didn't work
<10> shogunx: do i need to do anything with apt-proxy?
<0> parsonsd we don't have a client for her work login app?
<0> parsonsd tho i would personally say her having to do work at home is a security breach:)
<1> i have no idea whats wrong
<0> mada should not have to.
<1> says gdm already running, but when i logout gdm isn't there, takes me to prompt
<10> shogunx: awesome, thanks a million
<0> Bone_Thug there are several "virtual consoles" stop me if you know this.
<9> shogunx: it doesn't show in there.
<9> shogunx: /dev/hdb5 /media xfs defaults,users,rw,auto 0 0
<9> shogunx: that's in /etc/fstab
<10> Bone_Thug: what runtime you in? (sorry to jump in, i just kinda over-read)
<9> shogunx: and /media still doesn't mount on startup for some reason
<11> grr the samba package still isn't fixed!
<0> Roey so you cannot mount that partition at all?
<1> well howdo i figure out what virtual console im in, and even so, i rebooted, so i should be bakc in regular console anyway
<10> eps: samba is a pain in the *** and it seems to work when it feels like it
<0> Bone_Thug 1-6 correspond to alt+F1-6
<3> shogunx, i have *no* idea. never looked. her app is a plugin to IE; Citrix, i think. looks lke the one they use at my werk
<11> mada indeed :| ...oh well, good thing I don't have any windows pcs left now
<0> parsonsd i think we have an open source way to access citrix.
<3> shogunx -- that would be darn amusing
<0> Bone_Thug type who and it will tell you which tty (virtual console) you are on.
<3> shogunx -- now all we need is a browser that renders as oddly as IE so that she can test webpages. :)
<0> parsonsd opera!
<5> Maybe make an X-enabled lynx...
<8> now to reboot to the .16 kernel and test it ;)
<1> shogunx: says" root tty1
<1> avont tty4
<9> shogunx: I can
<1> avont tty6
<0> Bone_Thug anyway, X usually binds to tty7
<1> root pts/0
<9> shogunx: I end up mounting it with "mount /media" after the system starts up.
<9> shogunx: I thought 'auto' makes it mount on bootup.
<9> shogunx: or is the 'users' option preventing auto-mount?
<1> showgun: i jsut did control+alt+6, and i was at the prompt logged in as avont
<1> but how do i get back into gnome when im there?
<0> Bone_Thug so you are logged in on tty4 and tty6 as your user, and logged in remotely as root, it loos like.
<0> Bone_Thug do a ps-e | grep gdm again.
<0> Roey i though you had to specify noauto to keep it from mounting at boot.
<12> how is bluetooth support in debian / linux / the kernel? i'm looking to setup a gateway to my dialup isp though my cell phone using a bluetooth gateway?
<9> shogunx: basically I'm trying to find which files these bad sectors affect. I thought that xfs_repair -n would show the inodes that those blocks affect.. and then I can use xfs_db to show which files those inodes map to
<9> shogunx: dunno
<9> shogunx: as I said, the bigger problem at this point is finding out which files got trashed.
<0> Roey... i have never played with xfs...
<9> shogunx: ok
<1> showgunx: 4737 ? 00:00:00 gdm
<9> shogunx: thanks anyway :)
<0> Roey sorry.
<0> Bone_Thug do alt+f6 to get to your user login, then do alt+right arrow
<0> Bone_Thug see if you get a blank screen or gnome.
<1> ok
<1> hang on
<1> shogunx: it took me back here
<1> to gnome
<1> as root
<12> anyone?
<13> how do you upgrade your kernel?
<13> sudo apt-get dist-upgrade ?
<0> ok. do ctrl+alt+backspace OR /etc/init.d/gdm restart. that should bring you to a gdm login window. then login as your user.
<13> i mean from stable to stable, i just need the latest version
<14> thats a bit drastic if you only want to upgrade your kernel
<13> what you mean?
<14> sudo aptitude install linux-image-<version>
<15> um, whats the name of the php stand alone package in debian?
<14> that upgrades only the kernel
<13> what do i need to upgrade then, other than kernel
<13> i tried upgrading to 2.6, but it was so damn slow


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