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<0> Software As a Service?
<1> serial attached scsi
<2> lol
<2> Why would you do something like that?
<1> don't ask me, i didn't invent it :)
<3> river_: right, you said that. I don't know which scsi chip those things have
<0> serial attadchec scsi ?
<1> it's like SCSI over SATA or something
<0> !sas
<4> i heard sas is Storm Administration System from Stormix (A linux distributor), or Serial Attached SCSI
<0> hehe ... stormix
<2> so any clues for the multi-desktoping abrotman ?
<1> the machine has Solaris pre-installed, i can find a PCI ID for the controller from that.. would that help?
<3> river_: probably, yes
<3> river_: as it happens, those same two chipsets (MCP51, MCP55) have been added to the corresponding SATA driver too
<5> http://www.100mb.nl/
<5> check it
<1> peters: is that included in the Etch 'netboot.tar.gz', do you know?
<1> (because that's what i used)
<6> BobTheSpeaker: no
<0> tonsxchat: i told you
<3> river_: hold on, must check kernel versions
<6> BobTheSpeaker: it's better to have rights compartmentalized
<2> abrotman: I want multiple displays with multiple logical desktops, not single logical desktop as xinerama provides
<7> thewonderllama, what does that mean?
<3> river_: those two chips were added to kernel 2.6.14, I think etch is using something at least that new.
<7> separate user/groups you mean for each process?
<8> Can anyone recommend a FOSS IM client that can handle AIM, ICQ, Yahoo, MSN, and Jabber, and can block ICQ spam?
<3> river_: actual PCI IDs would help, though, yes
<1> okay, give me a moment to configure the solaris installation
<6> BobTheSpeaker: well, probably not each process, but major things like apache pays to have it's own user
<7> Ok, makes sense.
<6> especially when it can own files (in /var/www/ for instance)
<0> tonsxchat: try running two X instances .. and binding one to each head .. no idea how to do it though
<2> abrotman: bah, i'll just leave it single
<2> it's gonna be a ssh server with xforwarding mostly anyway, just figured locally could use both heads on the FireGL ;)
<2> ok, now for the final issue of tonight
<0> tonsxchat: we can't help you get laid
<2> abrotman: huh?
<9> hahahaha
<1> i'm not actually certain it's an nforce4, by the way
<2> how should I go about installing and configuring openssh on debian with x forwarding? should I just apt-get install openssh then configure it as normal, or is there something special in deb?
<1> the Ultra 20 and X2100 use that chipset, but this one might be different
<0> !tell tonsxchat about sshx
<0> gravity: how long til the i810 fix floats into etch?
<3> river_: actually, come to think of it, I don't know whether debian-installer can deal with SAS. the kernel can, but that doesn't mean debian-installer knows about it explicitly
<2> abrotman: yea, i know how to tunnel x over, was more interested in how to set up openssh ;)
<9> abrotman: A while
<10> I believe I'm not alone. I got pivot_root: no such file or directory, /dev/console not found, then kernel panic, when I switch from 2.4 to 2.6 in a debian/stable server
<0> gravity: you know .. give or take a month or two :)
<10> I tried everything I can found in google: use root=/dev/sda9 instead of root=/dev/hda9, MAKDEV console, include or exclude initrd, etc. but no luck
<9> Yeah, like a month or two
<0> yay!
<1> peters: hmm, i was under the impression it would just appear as a SCSI disk (/dev/sdX)
<10> any more suggestion?
<9> I haven't even started... there's this really serious Xft problem
<0> who needs xft!
<3> river_: I don't know much about SAS, to be honest - including what the kernel driver situation is
<1> i don't either, this is our first SAS system... everything else is scsi or sata
<2> !tell tonsxchat about openssh
<11> hi can someone help me ... i'm trying to mount a ntfs directory in my home dir but i can only do it as root ... but then i cannot view the directory as normal user ... how can i fix that pls
<3> river_: the acronym makes it sound like SSA, which was a great technology that might have caught on 10 years ago if it didn't cost so freaking much, like fibre channel without the buy-in
<12> unhappy: check the mount options in the man page.
<13> What is a good program(gui) to play music with.(I'm on gnome)
<0> what format?
<13> ogg/mp3/wav
<12> I guess that rules cat out.
<6> call me old fashioned, but i'm happy with xmms
<12> ditto
<0> xmms? quodlibet? zinf? rhythmbox?
<5> amarok...
<0> you keep your knob out of this
<1> peterS> i think SAS is meant to capitalise on the SATA market
<0> stoned: GNOME!
<5> so?
<1> although i don't really understand what the relation is :)
<0> who the hell would install half of kde to get a music player?
<1> apparently they're pin-compatible with SATA drivers, or something
<5> abrotman, not I
<0> right!
<5> abrotman, well because I don't use gnome
<3> river_: which makes one wonder what the point is of a separate transport
<3> river_: it's not like sata doesn't already have most of the useful bits of scsi in it
<0> things to sell :)
<5> rythem box is nice. another one like xmms almost is beep media player, gtk2 based, works under gnome
<3> well, except the useful bit where you can put 15 devices onto a single scsi bus, and only one device onto a sata cable
<1> SAS supposedly support 16,384 devices
<1> that's extremely useful given that this system has 2 drive bays
<3> yeah, I'd better rush out and buy a SAS host adapter then
<1> and i don't see it as a fibre channel replacement :)
<3> btw, river_, speaking of fibre channel, do you need an 18 GB FC-AL drive? I happen to have one I can't use, I'll ship it anywhere in the US for $5
<1> not really, but thanks :)
<1> although if you want to donate an FC-AL HBA to wikipedia, we might be able to use one of those
<3> dang it, I was gonna make a profit. USPS shipping is actually only $4.05
<3> if I had an FC-AL HBA, I'd use this drive myself
<14> any major pitfalls i should watch out for by downgrading back to stable
<14> or should i not even bother
<11> i'm sorry i cannot figure out the man page it's too hard i don't know what are they talking about how can i mount ntfs and use it as ordinary user .. can someone just give me an example
<1> bush: last time i used debian, downgrading was a really bad idea
<0> !ntfsro
<4> add a line similar to: /dev/hdd1 /mnt/hdd1 ntfs ro,user,auto,gid=24,uid=1001,fmask=0333,dmask=0222 to your fstab... change the hdxx and uid, and maybe the gid if you want.
<14> gah
<14> its either try to downgrade or put a cdrom in the box so i can reinstall sarge
<14> and the basement is a whole two floors away, im too lazy
<11> dpkg ... by user .. you mean the actual user or "user"
<14> unhappy: user
<0> bush: why would you want to downgradE?
<11> so "unhappy" or "user"
<14> abrotman: issues with my fileserver and xorg/ati
<14> USER
<0> it's a fileserver .. and it runs X?
<1> pci bus 0x0002 cardnum 0x03 function 0x00: vendor 0x1000 device 0x0050
<1> LSI Logic / Symbios Logic Device unknown
<0> does your X server need 3d?
<14> abrotman: well
<1> peterS> i think that's the SAS controller
<0> i mean .. you could just run vesa
<14> i guess it merits explanation
<0> oh .. this should be good
<14> i use it as a fileserver and the reason i have X on it is because i also run a few virtual servers in VMware
<1> and prtconf -v seems to agree
<14> it beats setting up physical boxes and jacking up my power bill.
<14> so think of it more as a second desktop that i access remotely
<0> so use .. the vesa driver?
<11> how do i find my uid
<14> abrotman: tried, bork
<14> same deal with my desktop and i finally got fed up and just backed up what i could to get X running again
<0> what's the log say ?
<14> i normally use vesa anyway, i have no need for 3d accel
<3> river_: ahh, the 'mptsas' kernel module, along with 'scsi-transport-sas'
<1> peterS> how would i load that if the installer didn't do so by default?
<3> river_: mptsas is new to kernel 2.6.14
<1> hmm, so i guess the etch netboot bundle is older than that
<3> river_: you can install with the 'expert26' prompt, I think, and that should give you more opportunities to load modules. I forget the details
<1> ah, let me try that
<0> bush: http://wiki.debian.org/Xorg69To7
<14> abrotman: all three of the machines i run debian on have ATI radeons, and no matter what driver i used with xorg my machine hard locked
<14> and none of them do it with sarge
<0> bush: try that link
<14> checking now, its loading
<0> don't forget to press play and FF at the same time
<1> oh, this is the old installer, i remember this
<3> river_: well, it looks like the old installer. it's not, it's completely new, but it has a similar interface
<14> perhaps i shouldnt have purged all X related stuff
<3> river_: anyway, the etch beta2 installer uses kernel 2.6.15, so that ought to be new enough
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