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<0> ew
<1> tansaku: which is what you want it to do (wouldn't you rather the kernel used your extra memory to make IO go faster than just leave it empty?)
<2> abrotman: ethernet controller: lite-on communications LNE100TX [linksys etherfast 10/100] (rev 25)
<0> that's a pretty standard NIC
<2> abrotman what am i looking for in lsmod output?
<3> !qotd0
<4> <Hostile> RichiH: Im not fsking retarded
<0> JMTeal: do you have ethtool installed ?
<2> abrotman nope
<0> JMTeal: ethtool -i <device> will show you the driver
<5> abrotman/epictetus: I'm worried about it because I had my rails site stop serving last night, and on my other machine the total memory usage is way lower
<2> abrotman : i can try to apt-get... but it may only connect for a few seconds... i was able to upload about 650MB o it the other nite over my lan... but sometimes it only works for a few min...
<0> JMTeal: it's like a 20k package :)
<0> tansaku: do you know why it stopped?
<5> epicteus: so the free is telling me that the memory is being used as buffer and cache - is there somewhere I can read more about settings for that?
<6> why is my driver/CUPS/whoever sending raw postscript to my printer instead of just printing the file?
<0> tansaku: i mean .. if you're chasing down RAM usage .. and it crashed for some other reason .. that's kind of a waste of time :)
<5> abrotman: it's not clear why it stopped. Yesterday we were running fast_cgi and the memory was bing maxed out. I switched to mod_fcgid as recommended and thinks seem more stable, but I'm worried that it might only be a short term fix
<5> bing--> being
<2> abrotman : got it... now what?
<0> JMTeal: tell me what it's using :)
<0> tansaku: so it could have crashed because of buggy code?
<5> abrotman: you're right of course - chasing after RAM when it's something else would be a waste of time, but it's just that we did have big memory problems with fast_cgi
<2> abrotman : tulip 1.1.13
<7> hi, i have 2 ethernet cards on my pc, but after some time connected it drops one of the cards, and sometimes change them between eth0 and eth1, i got the follow message on kernel messages: tulip_stop_rxtx() failed, can anyone help me??
<0> JMTeal: ewww
<0> JMTeal: have any other NICs about ?
<2> abrotman : no firmware version... need the bus info?
<0> it's sad .. tulip used to be so good
<0> JMTeal: nope .. driver was enough
<5> abrotman: if it was buggy code it would be buggy code in mod_fcgid or fast_cgi - fast_cgi definitely hogged the memory
<0> JMTeal: and uname -a ?
<5> abrotman: I guess I'm just looking for re***urance that top is really showing me the true picture
<8> abrotman back when tulip was only for DEC nics?
<2> abrotman : nope... but it worked for weeks without being down...
<0> tansaku: it could have been buggy code in fast_cgi
<0> shogunx: yeah .. pretty much
<7> lol
<7> another one
<0> shogunx: i have a pile of tulip cards at my office .. don't work with windows anymore .. and linux treats them like second cl*** citizens
<5> abrotman: I think it was buggy fast_cgi when it crashed two days ago and the problem was a memory leak - top really did show the thing maxing out
<0> tansaku: free is a better measure
<2> Linux debian 2.6.8-2-386 #1 Tue Aug 16 12:46:35 UTC 2005 i686 GNU/Linux
<5> abrotman: good to know
<0> JMTeal: first of all ... /topic .. your kernel is out of date
<7> abrotman, your cards are getting down from nothing?
<0> romulo: ?
<2> abrotman : so... how do i update it ? < --- stupid question i'm sure...
<5> abrotman: now we switched to mod_fcgid I want to really monitor how much memory it's consuming - top says not much, but free says lots of memory begin used: what epictetus said makes sense, that the high numbers are due to cache and buffers
<7> abrotman, i tough u was having the same problem that im
<8> abrotman: i have a Alphaserver 2100 running debian as a terminal server in an internet cafe with DEC 21040 nics:)
<0> shogunx: the exact ones i have .. windows hates them
<0> tansaku: sar might be able to keep track for you
<9> does anyone here used the gdmsetup in sarge?
<0> JMTeal: can you paste the contents of lspci && lspci -n in a pastebin ?
<0> JMTeal: or #flood ?
<2> just a sec...
<5> abrotman; thanks - I just remember warnings about top being inaccurate - is sar a unix utility?
<8> abrotman i kind of really like those cards, actually. i bet openvms still likes them. fwiw i have mostly standardized on 3c905's for my routers and ring architecture, but as soon as emulex ***es up off the ip over fibrechannel kernel code, i'm switching it all to fc.
<6> kihvblshuvfnslfgbahs
<0> shogunx: i order a pile of FA311 from netgear .. they wrok pretty well in win32 and linux
<0> tansaku: yes .. apt-cache show sar
<0> tansaku: hrm .. that's not it
<2> abrotman : pasting to #flood...
<0> tansaku: it's in sysstat
<8> abrotman i'm luckily not afflicted with any win32, and 3c905's are like $4 each as pulls nowadays.
<0> shogunx: lucky you .. but the fa311 are pretty decent .. and cheap enough
<5> abrotman: many thanks - I'll check that out
<8> abrotman i've used them, the fa311... not too bad.
<2> get it abrotman?
<0> JMTeal: looking
<0> shogunx: they're cheap enough .. and they work :)
<2> abrotman : thx
<0> JMTeal: so it worked just fine a few weeks ago ?
<2> abrotman : yes...
<0> JMTeal: have you changed anything in the system?
<0> JMTeal: that is the correct driver ..
<0> JMTeal: does it happen when using a certain application/service?
<8> abrotman hey, i'll trade you some old dac960 raid controllers for those 21040s:)
<2> abrotman : yes... but it's been a while... if i don't have a lot of important stuff would it be easier to just reinstall and not mess with it so much next time...
<0> shogunx: i think i have a dac960 in production at my office .. and no :)
<0> JMTeal: do you have another NIC about?
<2> abrotman : no...
<0> JMTeal: first i'd try the newer kernel
<2> abrotman : how's that done?
<0> JMTeal: apt-get update && apt-get -u upgrade
<0> JMTeal: it may hold it .. if that's the case .. you can install it verbosely
<10> Hey all
<10> I'm installing debian, and im at the part where it is "Testing apt sources"
<0> !root
<4> It has been said that root is the administrative account - only use it when root power is needed. So no reading mail, compiling programs, or running applications as root. And don't even think about irc'ing as root, it increases the danger from exploits and trojans (such as bliss), or see, for example, the security advisory on BitchX http://www.debian.org/security/2003/dsa-306
<10> Now, it hangs. How do I change the source?
<10> nvm, it finally went on
<11> hi! i'am currently downloading 2 Debian dvd's by Bit Torrent, and i'am here because i want to know are there all language packages in that .iso packages of Debian? I would like to use Polish language pack, do you know if that is already on this .iso or do i have to download and install it manually?
<2> abrotman : how do i get it verbosely... ?
<0> JMTeal: what's the package name ?
<10> Tanatos, I'm no linux pro, but your english is almost perfect. Why not stick with that? Im from denmark, and still use english.. :)
<12> hey i'm trying to dual boot and i can't find a lilo/grub.conf file but i found a grub folder and i know theres a lilo signature in my boot sector... am i just looking in the wrong spot?
<2> abrotman : you tell me... for the kernel? .. ?
<0> JMTeal: what cpu do you have ?
<0> bill: /boot/grub/menu.lst
<0> bill: or are you trying to use lilo ?
<2> abrotman : honestly i don't know... an old compaq
<0> JMTeal: cat /proc/cpuinfo
<12> abrotman: i'm trying to find either... everything says edit etc/grub.conf or etc/lilo.conf
<0> bill: lilo is at /etc/lilo.conf .. grub is /boot/grub/menu.list
<0> bah
<0> bill: lilo is at /etc/lilo.conf .. grub is /boot/grub/menu.lst
<2> cyrix m ii 2.5x
<0> oh jeez
<2> not good?
<2> heh..
<0> JMTeal: apt-get install kernel-image-2.6-386
<12> abrotman: thanks! i found it. but why does my boot sector have a lilo signature?
<0> i just don't know enough about the cyrix line to guess
<0> bill: because you isntalled lilo ?
<12> abrotman: i just did a basic setup
<0> if you want grub .. install grub
<10> Dont use linux they said, much to difficult to install they said!! My Imac and I did it in less than half an hour.. Im so proud.. :)
<0> sherdog: good for you
<0> !beer sherdog
<11> hah, thank You sherdog but my english is not as good as i would want it :) / according to my question: what is on this 8 GB (2 Debian DVD's)? i think that on this size of .iso it should be everything including language packages...
<0> mmm .. yuengling
<12> i think i have grub... either way thanks!
<13> sherdog: It's easy. Especially with recent Ubuntu or Debian.
<12> u lucky bastard its 10am here! I WANT BEER!!
<10> abrotman, much appreciated! ;)
<10> Tanatos, practive makes perfekt..
<12> later
<10> Juerd, yes it is! Very easy.. Damn I regret not converting sooner
<13> Speaking of perfection, perfect is spelled with a c in English ;)
<0> Tanatos: those two DVDs contain the binary packages for debian
<10> Now is my other puters turn.. :D
<10> Juerd, dude im from denmark! give me a breake.. :p
<13> sherdog: brake :P But sure :)
<14> "break"
<13> Eek
<13> break indeed.
<0> hehe
<15> como configuro mi teclado en xorg
<15> alguien tiene idea?
<10> hehe
<15> si?
<10> the european banana republic
<11> so we all have to learning english - all the time :)
<13> sherdog: Denmark's probably one of the least banana-ish republics this world knows.
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