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<0> gnufan, thanks
<0> ok .. got it.
<0> it looks like the default install of racoon ***umes you are using the direct mode even if you say use racoon-tool in dpkg-reconfigure
<0> this is for sarge
<1> Vasistha, ...
<2> Gnurdux: I don't know how to help you, but thought I would ask that tidbit. Maybe you'll be able to set it up again after the dist-upgrade
<1> hmm
<1> but if i cant...
<2> Gnurdux: ...it's not very easy to undo a dist-upgrade
<3> can i make a downgrade
<3> or something ?
<1> yea
<4> E0x: snapshot.debian.net (for individual packages)
<5> Gnurdux: this looks like debian bug 362516 -- hmm listed as fixed... hmm
<1> Vasistha, its caused by a dependency problem with a package REMOVED from debian
<4> E0x: you cannot reliably downgrade the OS though



<1> gnufan, maybe in unstable
<3> asg: im trying to go back to stable
<3> asg: libuuid1 is broken
<3> and dpkg dosen't let me install anything
<1> The newest dist-upgrade removes tightvncserver because of its dependency
<1> on xserver-common which itself became replaced by the new xserver-xorg
<1> package.
<1> yeup
<4> E0x: just download the previous version from snapshot.debian.net and 'dpkg -i' it.
<1> sry
<1> but thats certainly it
<4> E0x: if things are really broken, hack the pre/post inst/rm script in /var/lib/dpkg/info for libuuid1
<2> Gnurdux: looking on p.d.o it appears that tightvnc is dependent xserver-common, which is dependent upon x11-common (>-6.8.1) - X.org infrastructure
<1> it needs to be put into testing
<4> E0x: putting 'exit 0' after the shebang line will generally get you out of the loop.
<2> ">="
<3> asg: ok let me try
<1> Vasistha, xserver-common got taken out
<5> Gnurdux: the maintainer is part of the QA team -- I'm guessing he knows that ;)
<6> Hi, can anyone help me to install a newer stable kernel version for debian ?
<1> all that needs to happen is for the latest tightvnc with its dependencies updated to go into testing :P how long will it take for it to happen?
<7> if I install something with apt-get, then remove it with apt-get remove <package name> how come it only gets rid of that one package instead of getting rid of everything that came with it on install
<1> Buchannon, because APT doesn't remember that stuff
<4> kimberly`: are you running stable?
<7> abrotman: ya there?
<6> asg: yes
<8> yes
<1> i always save lists of files installed by APT when it goes
<4> kimberly`: does the 2.4.27 or 2.6.8 kernel work correctly?
<8> Buchannon: use aptitude from now on
<7> abrotman: well I just restarted my comp that wasn't working, and it wrote over the resolv.conf file to make it blank again... how can I make it perminent?
<9> it can't be this difficult to get debian installed, can it?
<2> Gnurdux: have you done apt-get update recently, with the etch repositories?
<8> Buchannon: find out why it's being overwritten
<1> abauer, does aptitude fix that?
<1> Vasistha, not that recently
<1> wait yes
<1> i did
<5> Gnurdux: it doesn't build in ia64 apparently -- sounds very fixable -- you have an ia64 box?
<6> asg: I got 2.4.27-2-386, but my friends tell me this kernel is not so good.. i should take a newer one :/
<4> addgg: generally not but certain hardware doesn't often cooperate
<1> i did apt-get update; apt-get dist-upgrade
<2> addgg: I wouldn't say "can't", but it "shouldn't" be ;-)
<1> gnufan, no, a i386 (P4)
<7> abrotman: Dynamic resolv.conf(5) file for glibc resolver(3) generated by resolvconf(8)
<4> kimberly`: that kernel has backported security fixes and is perfectly good
<8> woohoo .. whoever did that
<7> abrotman: that have something to do with it?
<4> kimberly`: what do your friends suggest?
<2> kimberly`: depends what you want. if you have an older box, 2.4 might be better for you, like it is for me. But if your box is built in the last 3 years or so, you might be better off with a 2.6 kernel
<6> asg: to upgrade it..
<1> i guess ill do apt-get upgrade instead of dist-upgrade for now
<6> asg: the linux pc is a intel pentium 3.. pretty old
<4> kimberly`: if it works and supports your hardware, there is no need to upgrade. If you want a 2.6.x series kernel, the 2.6.8 version is sarge is also acceptible.
<4> kimberly`: pentium 3s are not old :)
<6> asg this one is the first model of pentium 3 :p
<4> kimberly`: I still run my gateway on a P/200
<6> :) not bad
<6> but i want to host a website on it.. and i need a bit more power
<2> kimberly`: I have a pentium II, and I'm using 2.4.27-3-686



<4> kimberly`: I host my website on it just fine
<6> mm :)
<4> kimberly`: anyway, back to your kernel. The 2.4.27 and 2.6.8 kernels in sarge are stable with backported security fixes.
<4> kimberly`: btw, what kernels do your friends use?
<6> they use 2006 versions
<6> i think this version are in testing or smth like that
<6> because i never had one..
<6> how could i install 2.6.8 ?
<4> kimberly`: apt-get install kernel-image
<4> kimberly`: pick and then install the 2.6.8 image for your architecture from the provided list
<6> :) thankiu asg
<4> kimberly`: you're more than welcome
<2> kimberly`: with a PIII you could probably use the 686 kernels. To always get the latest, kernel-image-2.6-686 or kernel-image-2.4-686
<1> he could certainly do that
<6> thanks Vasistha :)
<6> Gnurdux: she ;)
<1> ok
<2> you're welcome
<7> abrotman: sorry, I guess I still need some help. I can't find what is overwriting my resolv.conf file
<10> are Con Kolivas patches included in current etch kernels?
<8> Buchannon: no ppp or dhcp at all ?
<11> asg: thanks. mysql server started again (for the record, it refused to start because for some reason mysql-common was at version 5, while mysql-server was at version 4...)
<4> skugg: ah, glad you got that working
<7> abrotman: ppp? I know that I have a static ip address in /etc/network/interfaces...
<4> eSa|: no
<2> Buchannon: is it continuously overwriting, or just every once in a while? fuser ...
<7> abrotman: Vasistha: it's just overwriting when I reboot the comp
<12> what package has all of the xorg libs in it?
<12> the dev libs
<8> something is starting when the machine starts .. it's overwriting that file
<8> tty54: what file are you looking for ?
<2> Buchannon: well you could change the permissions and see what complains, hehe
<12> abrotman, zlib.h
<8> that's not
<8> tty54: apt-get install apt-file && apt-file update && apt-file search zlib.h
<12> abrotman, i just want the development package for x11
<12> abrotman, the name was mentioned here some time ago
<12> libx-dev or something like that
<4> x11-dev
<4> or xlibs-dev
<7> Vasistha: sorry I'm still pretty new to this... just change the permission for resolv.conf to like nothing, then when I reboot see what gives an error?
<2> Buchannon: that was kind of a joke, but it might work. chmod a-w resolve.conf
<2> Buchannon: wait, cancel that...
<8> tty54: that file still isn't in that package
<8> ~find zlib.h sarge
<2> Buchannon: first check the current permissions, they are probably -rw-r--r--
<12> abrotman, what package?
<4> zlib1g-dev
<8> i told you how to find it
<8> if you can't run that simple command .. why should i spoonfeed you ?
<12> hmm
<7> Vasistha: hm.. it says rwxrwxrwx... that is bad right? hehe
<4> Buchannon: is it a symlink?
<7> Vasistha: and an l before it, so lrwxrwxrwx
<2> Buchannon: erm, that's weird. it's not a softlink, is it?
<2> Buchannon: ahha, that's okay
<2> Buchannon: it is a symlink. Do ls -lL resolve.conf
<7> Vasistha: asg: ah... it's pointing at /etc/resolvconf/run/resolve.conf
<4> Buchannon: ah, that's the problem. You have resolvconf installed
<7> asg: ah, so I can apt-get remove resolveconf and then edit resolv.conf and it will stay?
<4> Buchannon: yes. Did you install resolvconf yourself?
<13> Debian Search of 'zlib.h' (5 of 43): (/usr/include/zlib.h) in libdevel/zlib1g-dev ;; (/usr/include/bzlib.h) in libdevel/libbz2-dev ;; (/usr/include/sword/zlib.h) in libdevel/libsword-dev ;; (/usr/include/mozilla/zlib/zlib.h) in devel/mozilla-dev ;; (/usr/include/dclib/core/czlib.h) in libdevel/libdc0-dev.
<7> Vasistha: it says no such file or directory when I do that
<7> asg: not that I remember... I have the same exact installation on another machine and it's working fine
<4> Buchannon: oh, okay. Well removing it will return your /etc/resolv.conf to being a static non-managed file
<12> anyone here using e17?
<7> asg: hm.. yeah and I dont have resolvconf on the other machine
<8> tty54: e17 is not in debian
<12> abrotman, oh
<14> tty54: There is a script to build it from cvs
<7> asg: thanks man... hm.. would apache, mysql, php4, or courier-imap be responsible for doing that? those are the only programs that differ from my other comp
<12> h3sp4wn, yah i know
<12> h3sp4wn, but im missing a bunch of libraries
<4> Buchannon: do you use aptitude?


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