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<0> :)
<1> abrotman: oh come on ... talk to me, i wont talk to bots
<2> GraveDigger: go back to Suse
<1> i am
<3> GraveDigger: idiots will shoot their mouth off to eachother about any subject, that doesn't mean you have to take it as some consensus or gospel
<4> GraveDigger: /msg dpkg why debian ; ask the people that say that, or use ##linux, this is a support channel, distro comparisons are off topic in here
<1> Linux pinguin 2.6.13-15-default #1 Tue Sep 13 14:56:15 UTC 2005 i686 athlon i386 GNU/Linux
<5> Covener: you see my messages?
<0> can't we all just get along?
<1> :D
<6> anyone here with experience in AWSTATS ?
<7> Covener: give me some credit :-) . I have been that far but in /proc/asound I have card0 with lot of dirs ...http://pastebin.com/582390
<8> kevsthabes: It's not that amazing. People will find any reason to argue.
<9> GraveDigger, this is what is so excelent about linux. everyone can find a distro they are satisfied with. us in here we like debian
<10> lemme put down my favorite Gentoo joke: "Chuck Norris compiled Gentoo from stage1 with all packages, twice"



<11> zaggy_nl: i disagree
<11> zaggy_nl: it's just too big, and has too much stuff in the kernel
<9> GraveDigger, or even better. if you dont find one your satisfied with you can make your own :)
<8> zaggy_nl: A dumb joke. Especially since I've compiled from stage1 more times than I can count.
<12> true.. its a sad reality
<1> hmm
<1> this is no fun here
<1> bye
<10> houn, :P just trying to rewrite the usual chuck norris quotes
<1> (#debian.de is much more aggressive on that)
<9> !tell goldenaura about ask
<8> Besides, I hear Norris has funroll-loops in his flags.
<10> tarzeau, Linux in general has too much stuff in the kernel?
<10> ^^
<6> sepone: thanks, i would like to know how can i configure the EXTRAS, to make a Table that lists the info like StaCounter or BBclone does, with 4 columns with the info: hostip || country || url from my site visited || time
<8> So, anyway, anyone know much about Testing + Printing to a Network Windows Printer?
<12> now to a question.. ive been trying get azureus to run with any nat problems from iptables, nothing ive tried seems to completely open the ports required.. ive tried a few different firewalls (firestarter, shorewall, guarddog) but im still getting the same issue.. any advice?
<11> zaggy_nl: yes
<13> houn: use cups
<9> goldenaura, have no idea. i ***ume you tried #awstats and awstats mailinglist
<6> sepone: so i could see the recent visitors activity
<11> zaggy_nl: i'm a microkernel fan
<11> abrotman: arboman, hahaha
<8> SteveWrightNZ: I've got it installed, but I'm getting... oddness.
<10> tarzeau, microkernel? just put stuff in the kernel you need you mean?
<9> goldenaura, i only use the default from the debian packages
<14> kevsthabes: open the port in and out 6881 is default, if u r behind a router open the input port there also and use port forwarding to ur machine
<11> abrotman: aroboterman!
<11> zaggy_nl: yes
<13> houn: google up a howto
<2> did i mention gentoo trolls are stupid?
<6> sepone: yes i did, but nobody answered me till now
<11> abrotman: yes
<10> abrotman, aight
<8> SteveWrightNZ: Anyone here know how to get a Windows Network Printer installed on Debian? I think I'm missing something. In the past, I've just used kcontrol, but on this install the "Windows (SMB)" option is greyed out. Missing a package, maybe?
<8> SteveWrightNZ: gnome-cups-add will let me add an SMB printer, and I can even get the list of machines on the network and the printer's name, but it dies when you click "finish"
<8> Sorry, quicker than re-typing it, hehe
<3> houn: I've had luck with the cups admin interface directly, feeding it a ppd file. localhost:631 iirc
<13> houn: dont do smb, do native cups
<6> supone: thanks man
<15> Can someone tell me where to find debian for amd64? I have tried http://ftp.se.debian.org/debian/dists/ (Sarge)
<13> Covener speaks the truth
<16> is there a way to restart a running xorg server?
<7> can I go from a alsa_mixer conf file to a oss_conf file ?
<16> without shutting it down?
<11> N|DeeJay: linux or freebsd?
<12> tr1gg3r: not being a router, and for some reason, port 6881 still claims nat errors, i got the usual range open (6881 to 6889) and nothing is changing
<8> Covener, SteveWrightNZ: When setting up the printer through native cups, what type of printer is a Windows Shared Printer? I always thought it was SMB
<15> tarzeau debian as said :D
<13> http://www.owlfish.com/thoughts/winipp-cups-2003-07-20.html
<13> houn: no
<11> N|DeeJay: http://packages.debian.net/unstable/bash/kfreebsd-amd64/download
<11> N|DeeJay: that's debian too!
<13> houn: forget SMB
<2> chaedaeX: read your question again ..
<11> N|DeeJay: and debian is also GNU/Hurd
<2> tarzeau: stop being an ***
<2> !amd64
<17> from memory, amd64 is See http://www.debian.org/ports/amd64/ and the #debian-amd64 IRC channel, or http://alioth.debian.org/docman/view.php/30192/21/debian-amd64-howto.html, not official yet, will be a supported arch on Etch, or a generic name. it also supports xeon etc, see http://wiki.debian.net/?DebianAMD64Faq. Consider using debian/i386 if you do not have a good reason to use debian/amd64
<15> Thanks abrotman



<16> abrotman: can i reload or gracefully restart and x server (i.e. not have to close everything)?
<2> everyone knows Hurd doesn't work :)
<2> chaedaeX: no
<11> abrotman: tell it to ams in ##hurd
<11> abrotman: if you do tell, me i'll join with popcorn and watch
<14> kevsthabes: u need to opent the port to input and output, other wise it is possible ur isp blocks certain well known p2p ports u could try another like 16881 to be sure
<11> abrotman: you pickle!
<2> tarzeau: if someone is asking about BSD/Hurd .. they'll know enough to ask for Hurd/BSD .. not just "Debian for amd64"
<13> pickle? be nice..
<3> houn: google seems to know, smbclient provides a cups backend it seems
<3> chaedaeX: it doesn't appear so from experience & the manual
<7> Covener: /proc/asound/cards : 0 [I82801DBICH4 ]: ICH - Intel 82801DB-ICH4
<7> Intel 82801DB-ICH4 at 0xe0001000, irq 201
<3> roxy_: run alsamixer under strace and see what syscall is making it think no cards available?
<3> roxy_: ***uming you're running alsamixer w/ no args when you hit your error
<8> SteveWrightNZ: That link is cool, but the printer is in Windows. The article is for a printer in Linux.
<8> I'm connecting my Debian box to the Printer on the Windows Box, not the other way around.
<13> houn: wtf? why you talking SMB then ?
<7> Covener: I remember having the exact same error on my LFS. I just can't remember what I did to make it work :/
<3> roxy_: simple sound app works?
<8> SteveWrightNZ: Because KDE made me do it? *shrug*
<18> hey guys i cant seem to get X to start and i've never seen this error.
<13> if you have no windows, then turn the ****ing smb OFF 8-)
<18> xuth: creating new authority file
<18> /home/superman/.serverauth
<18> /usr/X11R6/xinit: Server error.
<18> any ideas?
<8> Ok, so, if I'm trying to set up the Debian box to print though the printer on the Win2k Box, should the printer device type be Internet Printer HTTP or IPP?
<18> that's when i do a startx
<19> houn: neither
<7> Covener: just install debian, got my LFS broken and need a complete system tomorrow. Actually, trying other simple app would be better to test the sound, in'it?
<13> houn: lol
<3> roxy_: definitely.
<8> eeyore-, SteveWrightNZ: Ok, was I correct in my SMB statement earlier?
<19> houn: is this a laser printer (postscript?) or is this an inkjet?
<8> Or what?
<8> eeyore-: Laser. HP Laserjet 1100
<19> houn: does it have ethernet port?
<13> houn: lol, dunno.. ecks-pee box is your printer server
<11> what's the plural for syntax?
<3> houn: install the correct samba packages to get the SMB backend as an option
<8> eeyore-: No. It's connected to a Win2k Pro machine via Parallel, and Shared. Other Windows boxes can print to it.
<20> tarzeau, lol :)
<18> any ideas on the startx error above?
<19> houn: it does *not* have ethernet port or it has one, but not plugged in?
<8> Covener: Ok, any idea what packages to look for?
<16> syntaces?
<8> eeyore-: Does not, or I'd just be using that.
<20> syntaxes ?
<3> houn: may just be smbclient
<13> syntaxez
<3> houn: dpkg -S /usr/lib/cups/backend/smb says so at least
<20> syn gov
<8> Covener: ...yeah, not installed. Thought I had that one.
<3> houn: and SMB shows up as an option for device type.
<7> Covener: thanks for your help. I need to log as another user.
<8> I wondered it it wasn't something I'd forgotten to install...
<21> hey, how do i tell the kernel never to load a certain module?
<19> houn: you'll have to ask samba to help you print
<11> davor: yes it's possible
<11> !blacklist
<17> it has been said that blacklist is Sarge installs the Hotplug and Discover packages to help with hardware module loading - which can often load undesirable modules. Add 'skip foo' to /etc/discover.conf and 'foo' to /etc/hotplug/blacklist to prevent them from loading. Don't forget to remove it from /etc/modules (if present). in etch and sid, modules should be blacklisted in /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist
<21> !blacklist
<22> after switching from 2.4 to 2.7, do I have to manually change the /usr/src/linux link?
<11> Zrin: 2.7? no
<21> yeah, blacklist. that's what I was looking for. thanks!
<11> davor: you're welcome
<22> I mean 2.6
<22> :)
<11> Zrin: debian kernel packages, right? sid?
<22> tarzeau: what shall change the link?
<22> tarzeau: sarge
<11> Zrin: only needed to build modules...
<3> Zrin: 2.6 on a debian system headers are found by /lib/modules/`uname -r`/build i believe


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