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<0> If I have archive with absolute pathnames which I try to extract being root, can I override the absoluteness?
<1> kevix, not.. i did not know.... i will...
<2> jaro: tar usually strips leading / by default
<3> Hi folks
<4> laurens@seaborgium:~$ sudo hwclock && date
<4> Fri Mar 3 10:19:12 2006 -0.126040 seconds
<4> Fri Mar 3 10:19:12 CET 2006
<4> AAARGH!
<5> hey HappyHobo :-D
<3> Hi jugglinx I need some serious help and ain't no one in our channel so I'm risking the wrath of brand x coming to the brand for help.
<5> just ask, ya
<4> laurens@seaborgium:~$ cat /etc/default/rcS | grep UTC
<4> # Set UTC=yes if your system clock is set to UTC (GMT), and UTC=no if not.
<4> UTC=yes
<6> HappyHobo: ask your question clearly and concisely.
<4> So that's OK, right?
<3> Thanks XPSlammer
<7> whats a too to move apps from :0.0 to :0.1?
<3> Let me get a paste page real quick like.
<4> That's correct too: laurens@seaborgium:~$ date
<4> Fri Mar 3 10:21:40 CET 2006
<4> But my hardware clock is stil broken
<8> !they don't know
<9> Just because the people in some OTHER channel don't know the answer to your non-Debian question, it does NOT give you the right to h***le US with your problems. Go try Google.
<8> HappyHobo: ^^^
<0> jm_: i have tar archive which isn't stripped.
<4> laurens@seaborgium:~$ sudo hwclock --utc
<4> Fri Mar 3 10:22:26 2006 -0.610702 seconds
<4> which isnt correct
<3> XPSlammer: I'm having a problem with my dcopserver.
<8> laurens_: did you also do /etc/init.d/hwclock stop and /etc/init.d/hwclock start as dpkg directed you?
<6> HappyHobo: ask your question clearly and concisely.
<3> I'm working on it sir.
<10> just to check: ./configure --enable-deflate --prefix=/www --enable-ssl <-- thats a reasonable looking configure line is it not?
<4> SerajewelKS: yes
<3> http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/lOrQYn47.html XPSlammer this is my problem. Because of this I can't run kde.
<8> laurens_: /etc/init.d/ntpdate start
<4> SerajewelKS: did that several times
<4> the time is off by exactly 1 hour
<4> so it must be a tz problem
<8> laurens_: probably wrong timezone then, yeah
<4> wait let me try something
<4> laurens@seaborgium:~$ ls -l /etc/localtime
<4> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 35 2006-02-27 00:38 /etc/localtime -> /usr/share/zoneinfo/Europe/Brussels
<4> That's pretty close to where I live :-0
<3> jugglinx: Do you know anything about Dcopserver?
<4> wait, trying something
<4> hwclock --utc --systohc
<4> instead of having debian do it
<8> HappyHobo: is this debian you're running?
<4> laurens@seaborgium:~$ sudo /etc/init.d/hwclock.sh start
<4> Setting the system clock again..
<4> System Clock set. Local time: Fri Mar 3 09:24:12 UTC 2006.
<4> but hwclock is still wrong
<11> hey all
<3> SerajewelKS: I hate when that question gets asked.
<3> Can I please respond with the next best thing?
<8> HappyHobo: you are in #debian. expect it to be asked. we can't support every distro.
<12> guys i need to set up a mail server for a company with 3 state locations and 20 users in each office (over VPN) what is the consensus SENDMAIL or POSTFIX
<4> HappyHobo: what distribution are you running?
<4> Quite simple.
<8> HappyHobo: different distros set up KDE and DCOP differently
<5> hobo, i dunno :-/
<4> If it's debian, it's debian and you might get support here
<13> Diazepam: what you know?
<3> I use mepis which is probably the most similar in kde aspects, dcop aspects
<14> a jeez, google ubuntu bug tracking and find a url
<15> Diazepam: Use PHP-MAil!
<15> Duh!
<4> if it isn't, go bug someone else
<4> !mepis
<9> MEPIS is a Debian Unstable-based liveCD distribution similar to Knoppix, with its own hardware detection system. Uses KDE by default, and includes the NVIDIA proprietary 3D driver. It also includes a custom installer on the KDE desktop, with simple LILO configuration. See http://www.mepis.org. It is NOT real Debian, attempts to use apt-get with Debian mirrors will meet with a world of hurt. /join #mepis
<8> Diazepam: i like postfix
<3> Thanks dpkg but you're wrong about the lilo
<9> HappyHobo: no problem
<15> SerajewelKS: Does anyone actually like sendmail?
<4> HappyHobo: it was proably right at some point in time.
<8> HappyHobo: dpkg is a bot
<8> !moron dpkg
<9> dpkg: You are moron #84
<8> ****
<15> haha
<8> !moron HappyHobo
<9> HappyHobo: You are moron #30
<4> rofl
<4> !moron SerajewelKS
<9> SerajewelKS: You are moron #73
<4> :P
<16> hallo!
<3> Linux is linux, ccan't we all just get along.
<15> No
<16> I have a problem with fetchmail ...
<8> HappyHobo: linux is linux. mepis is not debian.
<17> HappyHobo, i would expect dcop to behave very similar, if not identically
<12> Yeah i was going to use PostFix but ever time i bring it up in my office I get spat upon
<15> (Begun, the distro wars have)
<12> I like Postfix
<3> thank you kelmo_lap. Do you know how I can fix it
<8> HappyHobo: in short, mepis *is* off-topic here
<3> SerajewelKS: just ignore me then, I'm here looking for help not elitism and ignorance
<17> HappyHobo, best to ask elsewhere, or the wolves will devour both of us ; )
<18> got a problem with smartctl ... it's telling me my brand new SATA disk does not support smart, a -i works fine though .. since it's not possible for that drive to NOT support smart any one knows how to fix that ?
<16> The daemon exits when retrieving an email directed do "Undisclosed Receipients:;@mydomain.de" ... "SMTP error 501, malformed mail adress" ...
<8> HappyHobo: it's not elitism, it's common sense. this is #debian, not #whatever-distro-you-****ing-run
<16> Whenever this happens, the customer has to delete manually that one email in the providers mailbox and restart fetchmail
<3> SerajewelKS: In our channel we'll help anyone and are decent about it. If you feel that we can help even with the dreaded Ubuntu we'll give it a shot.
<15> SerajewelKS: But duh, he's obviously far more important than any petty thing like channel conventions.
<3> I'd love to get help in MY CHANNEL at the moment but everyone is asleep.
<15> Don't you understand?! He wants help NOW and he doesn't care how you feel about it!
<4> HappyHobo: Did you ever see #debian when Ubuntu 4.10 was just released
<8> HappyHobo: good for you. we have too many users to be able to do that. we can't keep tabs on everyone else's bastardized versions of debian.
<4> HappyHobo: It was not a pretty sight.
<11> hehe
<18> ludwig: well thats obviously mal formated .. try to investigate how it ended up in your MTA like that
<4> HappyHobo: We've tried that. #debian is just oo big
<4> *too
<4> it doesnt work, quite simply
<16> fireba11, there are several of that emails ...
<3> It has been shown the only real difference between debian and mepis is the hardware detection SerajewelKS. It doesn't setup differently like gnoppix does or morphix does.
<8> HappyHobo: cool. but it's not debian.
<4> we barely have time and resources to help all the debian users
<16> Feb 27 09:36:36 harmserv fetchmail[24016]: SMTP error: 501 <Undisclosed-Recipient:;@mail.mydomain.de>: "@" or "." expected after "Undisclosed-Recipient"
<4> HappyHobo: Perhaps at some point in time, but what if a MEPIS dev ships a broken package somewhere that works fine in debian?
<14> HappyHobo: we do actually try a lot, but unfortunately this is a very busy channel at times and when people dont tell you they use a different distro and you are trying to help and pulling your hair out because it *should* work, then it gets tiring because there are different bugs and actually quite a bit of other stuff.
<3> It's dcop server it's a basic component of kde
<19> hi
<8> HappyHobo: no ****. my dcop server works. yours doesn't. know why? i use debian, and you don't.
<16> fireba11, I think it is the usual problem with the email arriving at the provider by SMTP and so having th receiver in the envelope but not in the mail any more ...
<3> This is a fresh install with a former home SerajewelKS. I switched domain names thinking there wouldn't be an issue.
<3> From what I understand debian doesn't easily allow you to upgrade versions while leaving your home intact.
<8> HappyHobo: well i guess you found an issue. but this is getting old. ask #mepis
<3> **** you
<4> I love you too HappyHobo
<11> hehe
<3> laurens_: Not you.
<8> HappyHobo: pure BS. who says a debian upgrade borks /home
<14> HappyHobo: probably best to wait untill mepis wakes up.
<10> http://www.mrnaz.com/static/apache2error.txt <-- anyone know what that means?
<3> I should have been more specific with my anger.
<11> i **** me too ;)
<4> rofl
<4> SELECT * FROM debian WHERE pervy='oh yes'
<4> 42 rows returned
<11> hehe
<11> you mean 711 :P
<4> tijn_: I said 'oh yes' not 'should be locked up'
<11> laurens_- ow ok :D hehe
<3> looks to me like ain't no one helping anyone, looks like a bunch of small talk and crap
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