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<0> wols: :( my router doesn't have that option
<1> jair: you don't need anything but main for postfix
<2> jair: APT should tell you if you are missing a dependency. software in main has all dependencies and recommendations provided in main
<3> chealer, I see
<4> chealer: you think that those packages are marked for upgrade because they're linked to some other that I have/will have installed?
<3> chealer, if I have to add in the future anything from contrib or non-free should I add the same words to the line of security.debian.org ?
<2> jair: if you want security support, I guess (although non-free doesn't have security support officially)
<5> hey unix_infidel
<6> hi
<2> pae: please give the exact name of an example package marked for upgrade
<7> Why is it that with testing security, my system downloads the same thing (bzip2) everytime i update?
<6> i had asked a question to debian-laptop but couldnt get an asnwer so maybe someone may help
<8> jml6: did you put the right URL into your sources.list?
<9> so to keep my system up to date just; apt-get update, then apt-get upgrade?
<3> chealer, I see, ok I will have them just in case. peobably all the packages I will be using will be from main, and I always will run the command "apt-cache policy "package"" to see if they will be installed from other section than "main"
<6> I tried to install Debian Inspiron 16000 with Debian 3.1r1. The
<6> install process failed to find a hard disk to partition.
<10> may I ask a question about aptitude ?
<7> streuner, yes i believe so. I followed the instructions from the URL dpkg provided
<11> !ask
<12> If you have a question, just ask! For Example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. when I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, or if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask (ask the whole channel!). We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer, ask later or ask debian-user@lists.debian.org
<6> i tried linux26, expert26, sarge d-i rc2 installer and sarge dvd itself
<2> chuckyp: which release do you run?
<6> none of them worked
<13> hi folks
<9> chealer, testing
<14> liran: ok .. thanks
<2> chuckyp: you would need to apt-get dist-upgrade instead of upgrade
<6> 82801FBM Ultra ATA/ATAPI Storage Controller (under IDE/ATA drives
<6> > section) is the device driver
<10> I need to downgrade udev to an older version but I don't know how to do it, I am on debian testing and kernel 2.6.12
<15> abrotman, np
<6> what could be the problem
<8> jml6: what's the name of the factoid?
<9> chealer, okay what would the difference be?
<16> ilvecchioalex: why do you need to download udev?
<13> generaal question the night they have changed the card games on me for solitair in gnome HELP! which is the original game cant be bothered going throught them all there are too many?
<9> chealer, just for my sanity
<17> klondike
<2> chuckyp: upgrade doesn't necessarily upgrade all packages. see the manpage for details
<17> DevilChaos: ^^
<9> chealer, okay
<7> streuner, factoid?
<13> ty
<13> :)
<17> DevilChaos: kpat is better than the gnome version imo btw
<17> kde patience
<8> jml6: /msg dpkg foo - /message bot factoid
<10> now I havestew, because it gives problems with mounting emovable devices
<13> ah
<8> jml6: /msg dpkg testing security
<13> iv had games of internet chess too
<10> now I have udev 0.085 installed
<16> ilvecchioalex: which version of udev do you have now?
<16> ilvecchioalex: i'd recommend makeing sure you have a fresh udev config: /msg dpkg fresh udev config
<7> streuner, yeah I've done that. followed directions. still doesn't answer question...
<10> and I have read that it is a bug of this version
<10> stew, is it a command ?
<16> ilvecchioalex: if you really want to downgrade, apt-get install udev=version
<13> free free free if it were in windblows they'd find away for us to pay for it I hate Bill Gates
<13> !!!!!!
<12> somebody said !!!!! was "And all those exclamation marks, you notice? Five? A sure sign of someone who wears his underpants on his head." -- Terry Pratchett, Maskerade
<6> is there anything that could be done if the installed couldnt find a hard disk to partition?
<16> !tell ilvecchioalex about fresh udev config
<13> i like wearing my underpant on my head not lol
<8> jml6: well, i would guess, there aren't any new files to update then
<0> wols: i use ddclient
<10> thanks stew, I try it now
<7> streuner, well does it make sense that it would re-download the same files?
<0> wols: i can check my ip and update it with a web
<0> wols: but i cannot update with different protocols
<8> jml6: if you do it each day its enough
<9> chealer, i ran apt-get upgrade by accident well its updating some stuff but it appears its installing stuff that is already there. like the kernel 2.6.15 which is already running.
<7> streuner, day after day, the same output is displayed.
<2> chuckyp: it must be upgrading it
<2> chuckyp: actually, upgrading is the only thing upgrade does
<10> are you there stew ?
<16> aye
<18> chealer: are you sure? I heard that apt-get and aptitude don't work well together
<10> I wanted to use only aptitude to install this box for tracking purposes, doesn't matter now I give a dpkg command?
<18> but I know nothing, so
<19> I have a question about compiling kernels with make-kpkg: I have external sources from 3ware that need to be in an initrd image. How do I compile a kernel with that module the debian way?
<2> drc: sure about what? aptitude doesn't work well with any other package manager
<8> poison: /msg dpkg kp
<16> ilvecchioalex: aptitude wouldn't know anything ever happened, which is fine in this case.
<8> poison: read newbiedoc.sf.net KERNEL-HOWTO
<20> hey I am having a serious problem on my server--- all of a sudden no dns is resolving internally,
<10> I have read the man of dpkg, that command will purge udev and then install it again
<20> this makes my web server and mail server take like 30 seconds to respond
<20> can anyone help ?
<18> chealer: well it just came into my mind that maybe apt-get is messing what aptitude did, if this guy used aptitude before... or that's how I understood it anyway, sorry, forget :)
<10> regardless of dependencies problems
<6> is there anyone that can help my install problem
<19> euhm: I'm not a newby in kernel compiling, I just never did it the debian way
<6> the installer is not able to find the hard disk
<19> and since my new system refuses to boot I was wondering if the debian way could help me
<9> chealer, okay results of apt-get upgrade did everything that apt-get dist-upgrade was planning on doing. I'll do a dist-upgrade next time though.
<16> ilvecchioalex: yes, in generall, using --force-foo is not wise but in this case its fine becuase we are going to reinstall it immediately
<2> drc: I don't think so, he's saying the apt-get is upgrading stuff. I don't use aptitude due to its incompatibility with other package managers, but AFAIK the problems are that packages installed/removed by other package managers than aptitude are removed/installed (not upgraded)
<16> ilvecchioalex: its just a way to ensure that you have the latest version of the package maintainers configuration.
<2> chuckyp: nice
<8> ogzy: SATA?
<6> streuner, 82801FBM Ultra ATA/ATAPI Storage Controller
<10> ok stew, I did it, do I need to restart now?
<8> ogzy: yep, some people have prolly ALL Storage Controller in market in there head... ;-)
<6> streuner, it is the driver name under IDE/ATA section of the win device manager
<16> ilvecchioalex: you shoudln't need to restart
<10> sew it works!
<21> Wow.
<21> Hello!
<22> now that was a brisk walk home
<6> streuner, i tried rc1 rc2 Sarge dvds but none of them detected the disk
<10> thank you so much! so, maybe the problem was for some old config files ?
<16> ilvecchioalex: yeah. must be. that is why i created that factoid :)
<21> Anyone of you girls or boys set up postfix recently.... Or constantly?
<5> wtf
<16> jMCg: if you ahve a real question, just ask it
<6> streuner, so what do you suggest
<23> jMCg: yes I set it up 24x7
<10> I am in debt of a beer with you stew! ;-)
<5> can't I ever hide from #archlinux?
<24> blondie: does that make you a postfixer?
<10> solved a problem and learned something new
<25> How can I make the font in Fluxbox smaller?
<23> yes, I fix posts
<8> ogzy: i would suggest you buy a controller which is support
<21> I'm having a little bit of a problem virtual mailboxes. [I'm not sure if it's caused by the fact that postfix runs chrooted] -- I'm getting this error: Mar 1 23:09:00 localhost postfix/virtual[27180]: 67E4421C2DC: to=<luser@virtual.test>, relay=virtual, delay=4962, status=deferred (mailbox /home/vmail/virtual.test/luser: cannot create file exclusively: No such file or directory)
<6> it is a laptop
<8> ogzy: s/support/supported/
<16> ilvecchioalex: i'd rather have a gl*** of tuscan wine than italian beer :)
<8> ogzy: what model?
<26> how do I set the timezone, with tzconfig and if I set the timezone will the clock be automaticly set to it ?
<21> This is my postconf -n http://phpfi.com/105084 -- And this is my http://phpfi.com/105086 -- I'm using this http://workaround.org/articles/ispmail-sarge/index.shtml.en tutorial as basis, only with PostgreSQL as database instead of MySQL.
<6> streuner, Debian Inspiron 16000
<21> I would very much appreciate any hint I can get for my debugging.
<16> jMCg: you could try running it non-chrooted and see if that is in fact the problem
<10> stew... I am going to offer you a bottle of tuscan wine because... I was wronk, it doesn't work!
<16> ilvecchioalex: tell us exactly what you are trying and what error you are getting
<25> I am running Fluxbox in Xorg. I can't seem to find the file to modify the font size. The current font size is way too big for me. Is there a way to reduce the size?
<27> um, i have a debian iso image, how can i edit its content, i mounted it on loop back, but i cant edit files in it, i always get "read only filing system"!! any ideas?
<28> dga: it's in the style file
<29> uwe: you have to copy it, then make a new iso using mkisofs
<6> streuner, it is a new laptop so it sounds the installer should support it
<27> i c
<10> so, it's about my ipod nano (for example), udev used to mount it like an external usb m*** device until I did a dist-upgrare
<29> uwe: depending on the modifications you want to make, you're probably better off using the cd creation scripts or d-i
<16> ilvecchioalex: do you have the usb-storage and sd_mod kernel modules loaded?
<10> but... wait a moment, I tried to write a udev-rule on my own
<27> will look into that dondelelcaro , thanks!
<10> maybe better to remove it noww
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