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<0> so then i wouldn't need to run something like alsaconf to setup a sound card for 2.6 right
<1> onelife151: You might need to, if it's not autodetected.
<0> its a non pnp sound card
<0> so i guess i just run the config again
<1> onelife151: All that having it built into the kernel packages means is that the ALSA drivers are availabl
<0> thanks
<0> ohho k
<0> ok
<1> onelife151: non-PNP or non-PCI?
<0> its an ISA card
<2> /msg dpkg ipod
<2> sorry
<1> The isapnptools package may be of use then.
<0> kk
<0> i've used that before
<0> just gotta read up on it some more



<0> man is your friend
<2> does anyone know of a way to copy pictures to an ipod nano, and how to get covers working? Amarok, Gtkpod etc won't do it :/
<3> thanks
<4> moshii: afaik ipods expect covers to be included in the audio file
<0> thanks for the ***istance PerfDave
<2> nkuttler: hmm Amarok apparently supports doing it, it just doesn't work ;)
<1> Eww, I'm submitting documentation under the GFDL, I feel dirty ;)
<1> moshii: Ask Apple for support ;)
<5> should I use the postinst script in some way if I need the install of the deb package to run a script for me? to like create a mysql db an such
<2> PerfDave: Well it plays music, I just want to get the little things working now... running the ipod stuff under a vmware host killed the ipod :/
<1> moshii: So ask Apple for help, it's their player ;)
<6> can i ask kernel questions here or is there a special channel for that?
<7> why does ntp-server listen on ALL ip-addresses AND INADDRANY?
<7> i just started it and it does bind to all ip addresses AND 0.0.0.0
<7> isnt that redundant?
<7> and if yes, how can i change that?
<6> i'll just ask then
<4> bushwakko: no. you proabably want to read the mysql docs.
<6> i just upgraded to the 2.6.15 kernel (debian, although hand compiled) and i'm trying to get an isa sound card to work
<6> i used to use isapnptools, which was removed
<6> and it doesn't seem to work with kernels later than 2.6.12
<8> mrverbose: there is no 0.0.0.0. It's the address to bind to if you listen on all interfaces
<7> wols_: thats my point actually
<7> 0.0.0.0 is INADDR_ANY
<7> but why listen on specific ips if you listen on them all
<7> http://rafb.net/paste/results/kDPQyH12.html
<8> mrverbose: edit the config file then. usually there it's where its changed
<7> well, i didnt configure it to listen anywhere, it simply behaves like this
<9> I hate that 8)
<1> Damn, missed a perfect opportunity to steal lilo's nick. For a few scant seconds before being klined to hell and back ;)
<10> Contimplating removing fedora core from my dual boot with xp and installing debian over the fedora 4. Conserned about hosing the xp data.
<11> Heh.
<1> chuckyp: Debian shouldn't hose your XP data, though it's always sensible to have a backup.
<1> chuckyp: The Debian installer will let you remove your FC partitions and install itself into the space thus created.
<8> chuckyp: just fdon't touch the XP partition()s and everything iwll be alright
<10> PerfDave, well I'm more concerned of hosing it upon removing fedora right now its using lilo and I have no idea where lilo is actually written to.
<10> PerfDave, xp was installed initially then fedora on the remainder of the space. and it installed lilo so did it place it on hda1 the xp partition?
<1> chuckyp: lilo won't need any files on the hard disk to boot XP for you, it's one of the advantages it has over grub. However, when you install Debian, it will install Grub in the MBR.
<10> PerfDave, so lilo doesn't install to mbr?
<1> chuckyp: I have no idea where Fedora Core installs its bootloader, but I'd *expect* it to be on the MBR.
<10> PerfDave, well I can always regain xp's mbr with the fixmbr, So i'm not that concerned but the wife may kill me if I lose her stuff. All part of the game I guess. I'll have to try this weekend.
<1> chuckyp: lilo doesn't require access to a config file on boot, so will continue to work with FC removed. grub requires access to a config file, so will break if you remove said config file (or at least require you to boot your system manually, which is a PITA)
<10> How do you configure services starting at different run levels is there a config utility?
<1> chuckyp: update-rc.d, though in Debian there isn't really any need to play with runlevels (other than single-user mode which is really for emergencies)
<10> PerfDave, No I hear ya. I'm just wondering how well the mini.iso will handle removing fc and installing grub with lilo there.
<10> PerfDave, not playing with runlevels but removing what services are being loaded etc... Just not familiar with the debian way of doing it. FC uses chkconfig
<1> chuckyp: I'm not sure what mini.iso you're referring to, but the Debian installer should have no problems removing FC and installing grub into the MBR.
<10> PerfDave, the mini.iso from DWN to install testing.
<10> PerfDave, netinstall that is.
<1> chuckyp: I hear that the testing-branch installers can be buggy. But then, I don't use anything other than stable :)
<10> PerfDave, well i've sucessfully used the mini.iso to install testing on my laptop currently I believe its the only netinstaller working. Worked out pretty well.
<12> hey how to I remove all files ending with xyz in a folder?
<12> using command line I mean
<10> sunpascal, rm *.xyz
<12> and subfolders
<12> chuckyp, tried that but doesn't work for subfolders, not even with -R
<10> rm -rf *.xyz
<12> what does -rf mean?
<13> Has anyone tried to boot their system from a small USB pocket hard disk? I'd like to install Debian over USB and with a 4GB USB pocket hard drive. I can boot from an USB flash stick but not from this USB drive. Both medias were prepared identically.
<10> recursive and force
<14> somebody use a ddclient package?



<15> Can anyone recommend a SFTP server I can apt-get install in Debian 3.1?
<12> it doesn't say so in the rm man page
<10> nmee, proftpd vsftpd there are tons
<4> sunpascal: of course it does
<1> nmee: OpenSSH has an sftp server built in.
<10> ahh sftp
<1> sunpascal: Which version of Debian are you using?
<10> my bad ignore me nmee
<10> PerfDave, So no way that you know of to configure services loading at start? Other than manually, I'm looking for a config way to do it similiar to chkconfig in fc4
<1> chuckyp: I don't know what chkconfig in FC4 does, so I can't help.
<16> sunpascal: try find and xargs
<10> PerfDave, chkconfig allows you to list services at every runlevel and turn them on or off.
<12> ytan, in english please?
<1> chuckyp: update-rc.d allows you to enable or disable services by runlevel. But like I say, you shouldn't need to b e playing with runlevels.
<4> sunpascal: man find. man xargs. man rm. and rm is all you need.
<12> ytan, so the rm command doesn't support that
<12> so I need a costum script, right?
<16> sunpascal: man find, man xargs
<12> hm
<17> !tell chuckyp about services
<12> alright, thanks ytan
<16> sunpascal: :-)
<18> Is there a way to get per-WM saved sessions when using KDM to pick my WM?
<19> how can i install a rescue kernel just in case i chance MB and CPU
<19> i use debian sarge
<15> PerfDave & chuckyp: Hm, maybe I'm confused... Is SFTP different from FTP over SSL? I'm using SmartFTP on my windows workstation, and the options I have are "Normal FTP", "FTP over SSL implicit" and "FTP over SSL explicit"...
<20> the stock kernel will work
<10> PerfDave, isn't update-rc.d a directory?
<8> casterman: the default debian install kernel is for 386, so unless you install a PoewrPC in your mobo, you're fine :)
<1> nmee: Yes, SFTP is a subsystem of SSH.
<10> nmee, sftp uses ssh ssl ftp will use a ssl key.
<19> no i went from a dual CP to pentium 4 and lost a machine
<15> aha... is one better than the other? (sftp vs. ftp over ssl) and are there any FTP servers with SSL plugins I can apt-get?
<10> nmee, are you worried bout security?
<1> nmee: SFTP is cleaner, since it's just tunneling file transfers over SSH and hence avoids all that port nonsense with FTP. It also integrates nicely with user accounts.
<19> i am doing little preventing as i already got that issue the machines was build for dual Athlon the OS does not boot on Sigle P4
<15> chuckyp: not particularly, as long as the FTP communication isn't plaintext :)
<10> nmee, I would just use sftp but its a matter of preference. To use sftp you don't need to install anything on your nix box just configure it.
<15> PerfDave: yup... better find a SFTP client for windows, then :)
<15> PerfDave & chuckyp: thanks
<10> can't you sftp with putty?
<10> or atleast tunnel it
<8> casterman: you can install as many kernels as you want. just make sure by default it boots the proper one (determined in /boot/grub/menu.lst)
<15> chuckyp: hm, perhaps... I'll check it out
<8> nmee: filezilla
<8> GPL unlike that smartftp ****e
<19> Wols_: ok but how do i install a second one I don't know to do it ,
<19> is there any apt-get .....
<8> casterman: there are many
<8> apt-cache search kernel-image
<10> nmee, yeah filezilla is the way to go. and it does sftp
<1> nmee: WinSCP will do SFTP.
<21> i just upgraded to Xorg 7.0 from experimental and startx has disappeared. What command should I use ?
<17> experiment to find out!
<10> eBug, /etc/init.d/gdm restart maybe?
<21> i don't use gdm nor kdm
<22> hi
<23> eBug: try starxfce or startkde
<17> that won't work
<22> anybody use kde3.5.1? has it working ogg?
<10> rmrfchik, I'm runing 3.5 on the laptop.
<22> chuckyp 3.5.0 or .1?
<10> rmrfchik, whatever testing is using right now.
<22> chuckyp try "artsplay /usr/share/sounds/KDE*ogg"
<22> I hear nothing. Also doesn't work "test sound" from kcontrol
<24> hi guys. I have read quite a lot about nfs tunings etc... I am only missing intuitive estimation. what would be expected amount of NFS clients on 100MB link, for an NFS server with md0 RAID ?
<10> rmrfchik, I don't have the laptop up and running and I haven't tried ogg on it yet.
<25> sobersabre, about as many as you can fit in a 10.0.0.0/8 but it would go horrendusly slow :)
<21> xoz_ i don't use kde nor xfce
<22> chuckyp I notice the problem, because "test sound" stop to work on 3.5.1 (kcontrol uses .ogg for sound testing)
<24> the disks are SCSI.
<24> sep, i haven't finished describing the problem
<24> :)
<23> eBug: then get startx from sid... or wait until experimental xorg installs it.


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