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<0> finally :)
<1> Gnea: lot of people visited it just now. mostly ubuntu, windows, and fc4 actually (= and osx
<1> Gnea: i am hella good at tictactoe, i cant loose.
<0> insanity
<1> Gnea: i have a stupid html(frame) version of tictactoe too hahah. hella stupid
<0> heh, 'hella'
<1> ya
<0> yes, you are definately from the bay area
<1> haha
<0> :)
<1> sshonly.sytes.net/tmp/stupid.tictactoe.png
<0> deadcat: i hope you haven't given the code for that to tarzeau...
<1> Gnea: if he wants its his hehe
<0> LMAO
<1> sshonly.sytes.net/tmp/stupid.tictactoe2.png
<1> Gnea: ^^
<1> that is before the game started hehe
<0> ha
<1> like i said. "stupid *"
<2> i am in the uk thinking about buying a pcmcia card and bumped into an Ambit T60L198 which seems to be supported but after lots of googling i can find its chipset or any uptodate and gnu/linux newbie friendly info on this card
<3> how do I make the required files for deb packages?
<3> the example files and stuff
<1> touch
<2> it is priced 18 punds (35 us dollars)
<4> bushwakko: we already told you, now go read
<1> Gnea: i am thinking about getting a pair of bowling shoes... but its $25 )=
<1> !tell DistroWatch about brb
<3> SimonRaven: I'm reading, but it tells me to do dh_make
<3> and I've got java packages
<2> i also bumped into an edimax ew-7108pcg ralink rt2500 cardbus which is 20 pounds (38 us dollars). the ambit is a b and theedimax is a g.both are supported but which one has a better range?? ;)
<1> SimonRaven: i do dh_make, after the build and dpkg -i, when i upgrade, it keeps on trying to upgrade my builds.. what up with that?
<1> i have to hold my builds
<5> deadcat: maybe the Debian package has an epoch on it
<1> azeem: but my clearlooks theme is 2.7.3, sid is only 2.6.7
<5> 1:2.6.7-1
<5> the "1:" is the epoch
<1> ya. whats the 1: ??
<4> bushwakko: use make-jpkg from java-package
<1> i cant make that (=
<4> yes you can.
<5> it means anything without a 1: will be considered as a lower version
<1> how?
<1> ah
<6> !epoch
<7> hmm... epoch is the end of an era. For example y2k was a 2 digit year epoch. The unix epoch on 32 bit hardware isn't until Jan 18 2038, by which time we will probably have all migrated to 64 bit architectures. It's also a very ugly concept used by the debian packaging software. For example: 2:0.0.0 is a higher version than 9.9.9 by itself.
<1> sep: it doesnt say how.
<5> how what?
<1> to make my clearlooks so its 1:2.7.3-1
<4> you add it in the debian/changelog file
<1> ohhhhhhhhh
<1> ****
<4> RTFM
<1> rebuild time
<1> SimonRaven: NO! (=
<8> How can I figure out what DNS server my m,achine uses?
<1> Malagmyr: /etc/resolv.conf
<9> Malagmyr: /etc/resolv.conf shoudl contain that information. It may be updated by other programs.
<4> *SIGH* wtf is it taking so long to load this ****ing page
<10> Which page?
<1> clearlooks
<1> i am rebuildint it to 1:2.7.3 instead of 2.7.3 (=
<1> bitchin!
<3> where does make-jpkg come from?
<4> bushwakko: i told you already
<4> 06:05 SimonRaven : bushwakko: use make-jpkg from java-package
<3> ahh, misunderstood it
<3> thx
<9> bushwakko: /msg dpkg java
<2> does anyone know anything debian gnu/linux related about the wifi card Ambit Station Card, LAN -Express Model T60L198?
<5> startxwhite: did you try google?
<2> i am in the uk thinking about buying a pcmcia card and bumped into an Ambit T60L198 which seems to be supported but after lots of googling i can find its chipset or any uptodate and gnu/linux newbie friendly info on this card
<2> i can not find its chipset
<9> startxwhite: Go for slightly older Gigabyte cards, if you can get your hands on one. I think MicroDirect are still selling rt2500-based Gigabyte cards which have firmware-free GPLd drivers.
<1> SimonRaven: it fails like a bitch. just the changelog file or the dir as well?
<1> oops
<11> gigabyte has atheros based cards too ...
<11> and you want that :D
<9> **** atheros :)
<11> lol
<11> http://madwifi.org/
<11> and it supports hostap :D
<9> I'll stick to my nice GPL rt2500 stuff thanks :)
<12> morning everyone
<9> startxwhite: http://www.microdirect.co.uk/ProductInfo.aspx?ProductID=9034&GroupID=1072 should be fine, with the rt2500-source package and module-***istant.
<2> PerfDave:are you using an rt2500 on sarge?
<9> startxwhite: Yes
<9> One in my firewall, one in my desktop
<13> does anyone know why i would be getting fatal erros when trying to install GRUB onto a JFS partition?
<13> during the install of a debian system
<2> can you install the deb packages (required to make the rt2500 work) offline? i mean i do not have an internet connection at home on my sarge box
<9> startxwhite: You should have module-***istant from your Debian install media, along with the relevant kernel-headers package for the kernel you're using.
<14> install yes, but you need to get the .deb from somewhere
<9> startxwhite: You just need to grab the rt2500-source .deb from packages.debian.org
<9> Then install the .deb with dpkg, and "module-***istant prepare; module-***istant auto-install rt2500-source", and Bob's your uncle.
<11> PerfDave:
<11> Q. Is this driver stable ?
<11> A. Currently, there are a few known issues with the driver. You can see the current buglist at our SourceForge projects bugs tracker.
<11> well ...
<11> and it does not support hostap so it ****s ;P
<2> well, i can go to a place with internet access and download the necessary debs. but at home will i have to do apt-get update before installing the debs i downloaded somewhere else?
<9> Nowak: rt2500 doesn't support hostap but is pretty damn stable. rt2x00 supports hostap but isn't easy to use with Sarge, since it requires 2.6.13 or greater.
<9> startxwhite: No, you use dpkg to install .deb files, not apt.
<15> Does anyone know how to fix a system time that is running twice as fast? I've tried with the no_timer_check parameter (as suggested in some forums) but no go. Time runs accurate in BIOS so i guess it can't be hardware problems...
<11> PerfDave: and madwifi is both stable and supports hostap
<11> ;)
<9> Nowak: *shrug* rt2500 works for me, madwifi didn't. And is extremely dodgy IMHO.
<2> madwifi is atheros, right?
<2> ralink wifi cards are methinks recommended by His Holiness and his followers
<9> The Pope uses ralink?
<2> NO! not the fascist in the Vatican!
<2> His Holiness St Ignucius Our Patron Saint
<1> ya. his wireless network is "Heaven" on a 192.168.5.0/24" network
<9> 7.7.7.0/24
<1> o
<1> i dont know. its encrypted
<9> Il Papa don't need no RFC private address space ;)
<1> hahaha
<9> Hmm, 6.6.6.0/24 and 7.7.7.0/24 are both owned by the US Department of Defence. This tells me everything I need to know as a paranoid conspiracy theorist whackjob.
<2> PerfDave: do you have the gigabyte card you mentioned? how does it fare against others you have used in terms of range?
<16> do you know how to enable several ip adresses in webmin ?
<4> there we go. ****ing thing ... i keep hitting this seeming kernel bug :(
<9> startxwhite: I have the Gigabyte GN-WPKG which is the PCI version of the GN-WMKG card I pointed out to you. They both use the ralink rt2500 chipset.
<9> startxwhite: I haven't really tested it for range. My housemate's iPaq can reach the firewall 20 feet away and inside the house while he's working in the garage on his motorbike, though.
<9> And my desktop downstairs can beam through the floor to reach the firewall, so my landlord doesn't have a go at me for running cables around the stairway.
<9> Oh, ****, I was supposed to be updating http://rt2x00.serialmonkey.com/wiki/index.php/Debian_rt2500_Howto to mention module-***istant, but I forgot :/
<12> hi all there
<2> PerfDave: i've got an acx100 cardbus and can reach a friends ap which is about 50 yards. is that range ok? can you get better with ralink?
<15> It's actually not only the system time that goes fast, for example video playback and flash animations too. Anyone?
<9> startxwhite: Like I say, I haven't tested it for range. The range I get with my ralink cards is good enough for what I need.
<2> ok
<12> i got a question is alsa limited to just the 2.4 kernel series or does it work on 2.6 aswell I ask this because every time i setup debian sarge 3.1 i could never get my isa vibra16c sound card to work
<17> is there any bugtracker i can put packaging requests into?
<5> !bts
<7> bts is the Bug Tracking System for Debian packages, http://bugs.debian.org/ or to go directly to the bug page for a particular package/bug, try http://bugs.debian.org/packagename or http://bugs.debian.org/bugnumber apt-get install reportbug, and check out querybts too. Unstable users are required to check the BTS, useful for sid: apt-get install apt-listbugs, or apt-get install apt-listchanges, or http://fabre.debian.net/
<17> it's just about a version bump
<5> !rfp
<7> i heard rfp is a Request For Package; see http://www.debian.org/devel/wnpp, or a wishlist bug filed against "wnpp" with a title beginning "RFP: "
<17> thanks azeem
<9> !bts
<7> bts is the Bug Tracking System for Debian packages, http://bugs.debian.org/ or to go directly to the bug page for a particular package/bug, try http://bugs.debian.org/packagename or http://bugs.debian.org/bugnumber apt-get install reportbug, and check out querybts too. Unstable users are required to check the BTS, useful for sid: apt-get install apt-listbugs, or apt-get install apt-listchanges, or http://fabre.debian.net/
<5> oxff: eh, version bump?
<5> oxff: that is a wishlist bug against the package
<9> oxff: If you want a maintainer to update an existing package, file a wishlist bug in the TS.
<9> s/TS/BTS/
<17> ok, I'll do so, thank you
<12> and if i use a 2.6 kernel what packages should i use to setup a sound card ??
<9> onelife151: ALSA support is built into Debian's 2.6 kernel packages, so you don't need the alsa-modules stuff you needed with 2.4
<12> ohh ok
<12> so then i wouldn't need to run something like alsaconf to setup a sound card for 2.6 right
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