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<0> I tried that, and hitting it.. didn't work :(
<0> I don't even know how to ask google how to make it stop
<0> tty[0-9][a-z][0-9a-z]
<1> how do i list all the running services ?
<2> a little vague
<0> DistroWatch i don't think you can
<1> its portmap required ?
<1> hmm
<0> abrotman think redhat :)
<1> thats bad then
<0> invoke-rc.d starts and stops services...
<3> hello ppl!
<1> i need to find out which services are started by default
<3> got a little problem .
<2> De_Mon: what about it ?
<4> !ppl



<5> I'd like to buy two vowels please. I'll have an E and an O. [If you mean people, it's not that hard to type.], or <Guerin> parts per litre? how many?
<6> DistroWatch: install and run rcconf
<2> netstat -an ?
<1> stew thanks
<3> downloaded the bussinescard version of debian sage and while installation i get an error about tar
<0> abrotman nothing
<3> from several mirrors in austria and germany
<7> download the cd or netinstall sarge. downloaded it today and installed it without problem on a dl145g2 Optron
<7> this weeks testing build
<3> would to install a stable branch
<8> markybob: I wish there was a way to have the information mailed to me.
<8> markybob: So I'd be mailed about what needs to be upgraded, etc..
<4> sandman, there is
<8> markybob: Or, if an upgrade was performed, what exactly was done. And, if the upgrade was performed, backups would be made such that I could roll back the changes if I didn't like what happened, or if it broke something.
<9> abrotman: sorry I was off my computer. that was exactely what I was looking for, thanks a lot !
<2> xav: what was?
<10> hello, there'snot by any chance anyone in here with a dell laptop running lirc to send signals to a tv ?
<9> abrotman: http://pkg-voip.buildserver.net/ for openh323
<4> sandman, have cron run this script. if there are updates, the script will email root with what needs to be upgrade. http://pastebin.com/579023
<2> xav: wasn't me .. it was tfajir
<4> s/upgrade/upgraded
<11> I need to move /usr/share over to another disk. any good advice on how-to ?
<2> xav: err tzafrir_laptop
<9> oh.
<9> err
<9> so, thank you tzafrir_laptop :)
<12> hello
<4> sandman, see? easy :)
<13> Is there something amis with base-config on testing? What is the functional eq? I am trying to build domU for xen with debootstrap and base-config, but files in the base-config package are missing. Is there another way to go about this?
<3> gnu2it2: mount it anywhere cp all over and try to mount it over /usr/share
<12> I have a problem with my fresh debian 3.1 install: after upgrading to r1, I can't stop the portmap service
<14> hi
<6> fndude: base-config was removed. if you debootstrap is still looking for it you need a newer debootstrap
<14> im trying to fetch mail using fetchmail
<15> is there a way to provide the debian installer a pre-defined set of packages from the debian mirrors in order to automate the package selection, download, and installation?
<15> (with versions)
<6> and i think the latest debootstrap is broken
<4> !fai
<5> from memory, fai is Fully Automatic Installation for debian at http://www.informatik.uni-koeln.de/fai/ or at #fai
<3> gnu2it2: after that make an entry in your fstab
<14> why do i need an smtp server on localhost?
<1> stew many thanks
<3> gnu2it2: and you should be done
<14> reading message myemail@myserver :1 of 1 (1178 header octets) .fetchmail: SMTP connect to localhost failed
<16> racoontje: cause fetchmail doesn't neecssarily know how to deliver locally. the smpt server does
<2> or procmail
<16> yes, or an MDA
<14> wols: i thought fetchmail got mail from my mailserver and then delivers it locally
<14> so i need an mda? :)
<13> stew: ugh so base-config is broken, but I am not sapposte to need it, is that correct? So the debootstrap should in-fact do the job now, as it were of that package in-total?
<16> yes, and for this it needs mail delivery agent
<15> markybob, thanks
<16> racoontje: the question is why don't you have an MTA running? debian certainly installs one
<1> stew hmm ,funy , rcconf display me services enabled , that they are not even installed , how come ? like firestarter ... its slected as enabled service any ideea ?
<6> fndude: base-config isn't broken. its obsolete. use the --second-stage option to a newer debootstrap
<8> markybob: There's nothing in that script with a sendmail line or something of that nature.
<4> sandman, you're right. what's your point?
<14> wols: why do i need one running? I have one on my local network
<8> markybob: Or does apt-get do that automatically with --simulate? (I checked the manpage for apt-get, didn't see anything about e-mail in the section for simulate)
<14> plus i <3 qmail
<13> stew: ah very good. that might be the tip I am looking for. TY



<4> sandman, if the script outputs something (which it will only do if there are updates), cron will email the output. that's how cron works.
<16> racoontje: sp what do you have running/installed instead of exim?
<6> DistroWatch: the /etc/rc2.d synlink is still there. if you purge the pacakge it will go away, if you just remove a pacakge and don't --purge it, all the config file (files in /etc) are left on your system
<4> sandman, that's why i told you to have cron run that script
<14> wols: ssmtp
<12> can anybody help me with my portmap problem?
<14> mainly for "please-get-this-mail-off-of-my-system-and-onto-a-relay" reasons
<1> stew ahhh , i see
<4> sandman, you follow?
<14> well
<14> now i ought to be running qmail.
<14> yay
<14> works
<17> What is the typical time frame for a testing release to become stable?
<18> how do i enable mysql for php under debian?
<4> Smoked1, four years? it all depends. not quickly, that's for sure.
<19> install php4-mysql ?
<10> this is definitely the wrong place to ask, but are there any lirc variants for windows that work with SIR (laptop IR port)
<4> Smoked1, they're working on shortening the amount of time it takes to something useful. we'll see how that goes.
<12> I have a problem with my fresh debian 3.1 install: after upgrading to r1, I can't stop the portmap service
<16> pae: netstat -anp |grep LISTEN |grep 111
<16> which process is listening
<16> ?
<12> wols: I'm not currently on debian, I'll look into it when I restart
<16> it it's inetd, you have to edit /etc/inetd.conf and restart inetd
<16> if it's the portmapper itself, you need to update your rc directories
<14> hm
<12> wols: I disabled the portmap in rc2.d, but it still starts up
<12> wols: should I disable it in rc1.d also?
<2> pae: if you're ont using portmap .. uninstall it
<12> abrotman: I'm not using it, but when I try to uninstall it, the service has to be stopped. and I can't do it
<2> pae: /etc/init.d/portmap stop
<12> abrotman: it hangs on "stopping portmap service"
<14> wait
<14> where does fetchmail put my mail?
<14> It hands it to qmail right? :)
<14> the question is, where the hell did my mail go?
<15> how do i read a .deb packages changelog on a system where atptitude is not installed? (Can I?)
<12> abrotman: I just read a bug report that says that on someones machine the same action took 5 minutes, I'll reboot and wait a little longer this time
<4> rezzen, apt-listchanges
<6> rezzen: you can extract it with dpkg -x ; or if you dont' have dpkg, you can us ar x to unpack the deb
<16> racoontje: by default probably in a spoolfile
<6> pae: do you run gnome?
<12> stew: yes, on debian
<15> markbob, stew: thanks.
<14> wols: where is it?
<6> pae: gnome-panel and anything using libgnomevfs (like gnome-volume-manager) require portmap
<14> I'm sorry, I'm totally lost.
<6> actually it looks like lots of stuff depends on libgnomevfs2 which depends on fam which depends on portmap
<8> markybob: Yessir, I do indeed follow.
<4> sandman, you're a hard person to have a conversation with. you reply ten minutes later :) hope that script helps, anyway.
<13> So with this debootstrap now, do I #debootstrap distro target , then, #chroot target, and, #apt-get debootstrap, #debootstrap --second-stage, whilest in the target I just created?
<15> i see that it is up to a user to include a changelog inside of a deb package. guess that means most deb packages will not have a changelog. :-\
<15> s/user/developer
<6> rezzen: no a changelog is required by debian policy
<6> rezzen: you won't find packages distributed by debian without changelogs
<20> somebody use a ddns client?
<12> stew: so what do I do about portmap? should I try and upgrade it?
<14> any mutt users here?
<16> racoontje: /var/spool/mail/ perhaps
<14> wols: its empty
<15> ah, i see. my apologies, i missed the changelog in my first glance at a standard debian package.
<6> pae: what is the problem with portmap?
<16> racoontje: then you need to look at the logs/your qmail config
<12> stew: apt-get hangs when it tries to stop it
<15> N0S3, all sorts.
<6> pae: i'm guess you can't stop it becuase you still are using it
<14> wols: perhaps i should go back to ssmtp and use procmail? this would deliver the mail to some place i want it right? :)
<12> stew: I'm running apt-get outside of x, which are shut down
<12> brb, I'm going to boot debian
<16> qmail delivers to a place you want it too if you configure qmail correctly
<14> wols: the problem mainly being me not having a clue
<16> you need to set up qmail for your mail storage. and when you don't have a clue about your beloved qmail, do you have one about procmail?
<21> hey


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