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<0> heh ok
<1> just about everything is skinable i swear
<2> any rep to get postgresql 8.xx on 3.1r1 ?
<3> skins? with totem? I don't know - never occurred to me to look for such a thing.
<1> mplayer certainly is but that comes with the baggage of mplayer
<4> sbbackk: looked on backports yet?
<4> whoever thought first of "skins" should be shot. twice to make sure he stays dead
<2> wols_, 3.1r.1's postgresql default is 7.x series
<5> or simply skinned
<4> sbbackk: I didn't say anything about what comes as default. I spoke about backports
<4> !tell sbbackk about backports
<6> isn't like... old school quake available for linux??
<6> is it in any of the debian repos?
<4> up to q3 is available under GPL or so. but not the datafiles
<7> what is the 'k' for in kfreebsd-gnu?
<6> wols_, so what's that mean??



<4> kde perhaps?
<4> quiet: it means the code is free the levels/maps/textures etc are not
<4> meaning, you can't play quake with it unless you already haev the game
<6> :\
<8> the just put/are putting radiant gpl also
<6> i have it somewhere.
<4> maybe you should play enemy territory?
<6> i don't have the graphics for that
<6> this is a laptop
<4> that one is multiplayer, thriving, and free (just not as in freedom)
<6> witha n ATI AGP card
<6> low...low GL stuff is all it can do
<4> what kind of ati card?
<8> et is just a wee bit more resource intensive than q3
<2> wols_, thanks
<4> ET can run on a gf3mx type of card
<6> IGP 340
<8> if you can run q3 you should be able to run et
<4> that should work
<6> i can't
<6> no ati drivers
<4> not even the ****ty binary only ones?
<9> xorg?
<9> xorgs got IGP340M opengl drivers
<6> no.. ati doesn't make linux drivers for the IGP chipsets...
<9> ors so i recall
<6> on1009, yeah.. but they aren't very powerful for opengl stype stuff..
<9> ok
<4> RS200 is supported by xorg
<4> quiet: http://ftp.x.org/pub/X11R7.0/doc/html/radeon.4.html
<6> the new drivers with 6.9 are MUCH better than the previous..
<10> the great battle of 5char nicks!
<11> :P
<12> Does anyone know how to enable PAE on debian?
<10> DogWater: uname -a
<10> DogWater: and what CPU do you have?
<12> Linux server6 2.6.8-2-686-smp #1 SMP Tue Aug 16 12:08:30 UTC 2005 i686 GNU/Linux
<12> dual xeon
<12> 3.2ghz
<10> and how much RAM?
<12> 4GB
<10> and you can't see it all?
<13> o.o
<12> only 3.5GB
<10> DogWater: isn't that a side effect of using PAE ?
<10> DogWater: it has to use a portion of ram for address space?
<12> well; not to sound like a complete pleb here, but whenever we notice this issue on Windows we have to enable PAE in order to get it to work.. so i guess i dont understand fully how PAE interacts with the system
<10> DogWater: otherwise .. you'll have to recompile your kernel and enable 64GB support .. 4GB is already enabled (check /boot/config-2.6.8-2-686-smp)
<11> DogWater: the kernel needs some part of the address space
<12> 512MB seems a little high
<10> DogWater: but i don't think you'll be able to see anymore
<11> not high at all
<11> windows has the same limit (eevn more IIRC) when used with 4GB max
<10> DogWater: i think 3.5/4 is about right for PAE
<11> and yes, it looks like you're missing PAE
<12> Hm, no bigmem kernel eh? :D
<11> in 2.4 days it was 2GB max per process
<12> too easy
<10> DogWater: yes .. you have HIGHMEM
<10> DogWater: i'm runnign the same kernel
<10> CONFIG_HIGHMEM4G=y



<12> anyone remember the command off the top of their head to make the kernel package from the debian source?
<12> I cant remember what its called atm
<10> !tell DogWater about kp
<10> DogWater: but it's not going to help
<10> DogWater: ask #kernel or #kernelnewbies on oftc if you don't believe us
<10> #kernel is on freenode
<12> seems like all im doing these days is building kernels
<14> how would I change the umask a user writes files as and keep that user's shell /bin/false? is this possible?
<12> do you mean for example the nobody account?
<14> DogWater, for example, yes. but specifically the asterisk account.
<14> I need it to write files with a umask of 027
<12> couldnt you just make asterik run as a different user?
<12> not to be argumentative and widen the scope
<14> no. it's running fine as it's own user.
<15> lazzarello: you want to change the umask of a daemon that is running?
<14> stew, yes
<14> so it can write files other applications in the same group can read
<15> lazzarello: if the initscript uses /etc/default/$NAME put the umask in there, otherwise put it right into the init script
<14> currently it's writing files readable by only itself
<14> stew, thanks.
<15> lazzarello: if its asterisk you can put it into /etc/default/asterisk
<14> right on!
<12> gah; why cant there be decent enterprise backup software that works on windows and linux
<12> other than rsync :D
<14> DogWater, uhhh, rsync + samba?
<12> Bakbone makes me want to stab my own eyes out
<12> lazzarello: it needs to be "system" level, i.e. I can put a cd in, and tell it to fix my box.
<14> you should never run Windows as a backup server but it's easy to run them as clients with Windows file sharing.
<12> All of the good backup software runs fine in windows.
<12> they just all kind of ****
<6> hey guys... i need some help... i an trying to install ndiswrapper... using module-***istant
<14> DogWater, you can use dd to make an image of the disk
<15> quiet: be more specific, what did you try and what problem did you have?
<12> The servers cant be down whilst im backing them up, as some of my boxen are windows 2k3, DD presents a problem
<6> i am... i'm typing it out... just a sec.
<14> DogWater, uhh. godspeed.
<6> it fails.. the log shows: /usr/src/modules/ndiswrapper/wrapper.c:286: warning: statement with no effect make[4]: *** [/usr/src/modules/ndiswrapper/wrapper.o] error 1
<15> quiet: it's not filing because of that warning
<16> DogWater: what about backuppc or amanda ?
<15> quiet: what version of debian? which version of ndiswrapper?
<14> personally speaking, Windows servers are only useful after installing cygwin.
<15> quiet: and what does "uname -r" say?
<6> Etch... using module ***istant with a 2.6.15 kernel... http://pastebin.com/578675
<12> hm, i think this kernel i just built is outputting the console via serial lol
<12> not the memory kernel, the other one
<6> stew, i did aptitude install module-***istant module-***istant prepare module-***istant auto-install ndiswrapper
<6> this error is during the last operation
<6> stew, 2.6.15-1-686
<15> !dbugs 353020
<17> #353020:N[ndiswrapper-source] ndiswrapper-source: won't compile with m-a and kernel 2.6.15; Wed, 15 Feb 2006 18:03:01 UTC
<6> what is m-a ?
<6> and is there any kind of fix?
<14> !tell quiet about m-a
<15> quiet: yes, see that bug report
<6> ohh ok
<18> Hey, is Debian's kernel BadRAM-patched by default? (BadRAM's homepages says that it is, http://rick.vanrein.org/linux/badram/results.html )
<15> quiet: m-a is just shorthand for module-***istant
<6> ok
<15> ninnnu: no they aren't patched, the patch is available via apt-get which is what that page is saying
<6> reading through the bug report... i'm a little confused as to what i need to do..
<6> should i just follow the normal wiki installation instructions?
<12> normally do you guys compile frame buffer support into your kernels?
<15> quiet: 2) Let it fail and edit /usr/src/modules/ndiswrapper/wrapper.c and
<15> quiet: you need to do that part
<15> DogWater: i let debian do it for me
<19> is there a debian developers channel?
<20> dogwal: i do
<21> is it possible to automatically regainst a deb package with the current libraries (and have the dep updated as well) ?
<21> huh
<6> stew, i edited the file.. when i run ./debian/rules binary-module it returns make: *** No rule to make target `binary-module'. stop.
<21> rebuild
<15> quiet: what version of ndiswrapper-source?
<6> umm... whatever module-***istant got last night?


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