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<0> lol
<1> shazbott
<2> eddiecheng: just a security notice: remember this option allows possible system pseudo-users to allow login, if UID is high enough and the p***word is set
<3> wb don
<4> Back to my original question, anyone got any remote install experience?
<0> what is pseudo-users
<2> eddiecheng: read /etc/p***wd, the number below 1000
<1> ha! I LOVE APTITUDE NOW!!! GONE FOREVER
<5> owh: yes, quite a few of us... just ask your question
<2> eddiecheng: to avoid this you need virtual users in ftp configuration with own p***wd/groups with DefaultRoot... that's the next level :-)
<1> ok now i need to fix yet more problems .... lol
<4> dondelelcaro: I did. I'm getting a pre-installation error "subprocess pre-installation script returned error exit status 128" when installing ssh in a chroot environment created by debootstrap.
<4> dondelelcaro: On closer observation, that's not a question :-)
<4> dondelelcaro: Here's my question: "How do I install a copy of ssh?", something I've done for years without any problems, though never remotely.
<6> So I have etch installed (yay!) and now I need to upgrade my kernel to 2.6 (I'm using 2.4). What's the _safest_ way to do it?
<5> owh: hrm.. the preinst shouldn't be failing like that
<4> dondelelcaro: You're telling me :-)
<5> owh: what OS is this running on? can you chroot into the chroot yet?
<4> dondelelcaro: It's running RedHat and the error is within the chrooted environment.
<5> owh: so you've chrooted to the installation directory.
<4> dondelelcaro: Yup
<4> dondelelcaro: Lemmie give you some backround.
<7> hi
<7> is there a command in console which monitors activy of the system/
<7> ?
<8> !2.4->2.6
<9> i heard 2.4->2.6 is easy - just "apt-cache search kernel-image 2.6" (linux-image in etch and sid, use your favorite apt front-end) and install the relevant package for your CPU(s).
<5> owh: are you installing sarge?
<3> Sharjeel : try top
<7> ie which files are loaded when a program is loaded etc
<8> Sharjeel: which activity, exactly?
<3> or htop
<4> dondelelcaro: I started with a debootstrap of woody, then got it all mostly working, did an apt-get update, apt-get upgrade, installed locale, got everything happy, attempted to install ssh. Failed. I recalled that I'd given it permission to use security.debian, so I started again, this time only installing woody, same problem, different version.
<4> dondelelcaro: Ultimately, yes.
<6> Gnea, and will this method ***ure me of having 2.6 running the next time i reboot my machine? This is a headless box, so I can't screw up :(
<5> owh: ah, ok... you're going to have to edit the preinst and add a set -x to the top of it
<4> dondelelcaro: But the version of debootstrap that I have doesn't seem to like sarge, only woody.
<8> KodeK: is it using lilo or grub?
<5> owh: yes, older debootstrap versions are unfortunatly distribution specific
<8> KodeK: is it a production server?
<6> Gnea, I have no idea. It's been a while since I saw the boot screen.
<5> owh: that'll at least tell you where the preinst is failing
<6> Gnea, it's a home server.
<4> dondelelcaro: This will sound silly, but where, seeing that I cannot seem to locate any scripts at any time during the process.
<8> KodeK: oh ok, are you at home now or elsewhere?
<4> dondelelcaro: Or do you mean, before I run apt-get install ssh?
<7> i wanted to see what what files are loaded etc, basicly a logg of the system so i can check it to see what exactly happened...
<6> Gnea, I'm at home, but I only have remote access to it.
<5> owh: they're in /var/lig/dpkg/info/ssh.preinst; however, in this case, you may want to try just running it manually since the package's copy will replace the copy that you've modified
<10> Hey guys
<10> What does load average really mean in "uptime"
<10> For instance, I have a 3.8
<10> Load average
<10> With a Dual Xeon
<4> dondelelcaro: That's where I thought they'd be, but I cannot locate them. There are other error messages about mail failing with missing file in /tmp
<5> owh: hrm... none of these partitions are mounted noexec, right?
<8> KodeK: ok - safest bet would be to find-a-way to get it hooked up in the event that it doesn't boot right. find out what bootloader it's using (check for /etc/lilo.conf and /boot/grub/*) and when it installs, check the configuration files for those and make sure that 2.6 is at the default top of the list.
<4> dondelelcaro: Could it be that I've turned swap off, made it into ext2, then started the install, *without* rebooting first?
<5> owh: that shouldn't matter
<11> I'm having trouble with tar >.> trying to tar.gz the entire contents of the current direcrory + its subfolders.. i'm trying tar -cfz tarfile.tar.gz -C . where am i going wrong?
<4> dondelelcaro: That's what I thought, and no to the mount question.
<6> Gnea, thanks. I also remember one time, I tried doing this same thing and it was missing a file or something.
<6> Gnea, it was a file in the root directory. Forgot its name.
<3> Sharjeel : have you tried dmesg ?
<10> Anyone?
<6> Gnea, I just remember having problems with it.
<8> KodeK: shrug
<4> dondelelcaro: I didn't think it was going to be this painful :-(
<4> dondelelcaro: And I haven't even gotten to the good stuff yet :-)
<5> owh: ok, wget the ssh .deb from a mirror, dpkg-deb -x ssh_fooversion.deb tmp; dpkg-deb -e ssh_fooversion.deb tmp/DEBIAN; then edit tmp/DEBIAN/preinst; add a set -x to the top, and see what is failing.
<5> owh: just guessing, are you using selinux?
<6> Gnea, I think it was /vmlinuz, which I see now is a symlink to a 2.4 file.
<12> #l1-b
<4> dondelelcaro: Nope, debian all the way.
<5> owh: no, I mean on the host redhat system?
<4> dondelelcaro: Hmm, dunno, how do I find out.
<8> KodeK: ok, just make sure whatever bootloader is pointing to the right files
<13> I hate it when I ask things here that are easy to figure out on my own :(
<14> hi, I have just installed kde3.3 , but it doesnt seem to have found or detected my soundcard
<14> is there a command to configure that ?
<13> idonthaveonesodo: 3.3 is latest in sarge? ew
<14> i think so
<3> idonthaveonesodo : try alsaconf
<13> idonthaveonesodo: you know the modules for your soundcard?
<13> idonthaveonesodo: multiple soundcards? (onboard and card?)
<14> alsaconf didnt work
<14> lunitik , i dont know the modules,
<14> and its just soundcard
<14> 2 soundcard i mean
<14> damn,
<2> idonthaveonesodo: do you have support for your card in kernel enabled?
<14> 1 soundcard i mean
<1> how can you not know what soundcard you have unless it is integrated into the motherboard?
<13> idonthaveonesodo: ahh... same issue I just solved... hah
<13> idonthaveonesodo: cept you have to know what the modules are to solve like me
<3> idonthaveonesodo : use lspci
<14> ohh i didnt knew that was what you were asking for
<14> i now its a realtek
<14> ac97 series ?
<13> idonthaveonesodo: realtek is snd-intel8x0
<14> ok, so what i need to do to configure it ?
<7> just tried it thnx
<7> but is there any thing that monitors it live?
<13> idonthaveonesodo: modprobe snd-intel8x0 ... although its likely already loaded... just not being used
<3> Sharjeel : try maybe tail -f /var/log/syslog or tail -f /var/log/messages
<13> idonthaveonesodo: you don't have a new kernel that uses udev though... which makes things more complicated :(
<13> idonthaveonesodo: lspci | grep audio <-- two listed? whats the other one?
<11> how do i tar.gz the current directory+subdirs ?
<5> Kerr: tar zcf ../foo.tar.gz .; or similar
<2> open oder create?
<14> no i just have one soundcard
<11> dondelelcaro: i can't write to the directory above?
<5> Kerr: you're going to have to be able to write it somewhere.
<15> Kerr: /tmp then
<5> Kerr: you could do tar --exclude foo.tar.gz zcf foo.tar.gz .;
<2> where you want, if you have write access and enough space
<7> thnx goerge
<7> :D
<14> debian:/# modprobe snd-intel8x0
<14> modprobe: Can't locate module snd-intel8x0
<3> you're welcome
<3> glad I could help
<2> the currently packing tar(.gz) file itself will be auto-ignored
<16> how set timezone after installed?
<16> or reset?
<6> What exactly is an SMP machine? There are two 686 kernels, one's smp.
<2> Seb: tz<tab><tab> in shell
<16> KodeK: a PC with 2 or more CPUs
<4> dondelelcaro: How do I start the install once I've unpacked it like that?
<16> KodeK: is you use the smp kernel on a 1 cpu pc it won't hurt you
<16> KodeK:s/is/if
<17> whats the status of installing debian on the dual core apple machines?
<6> seb-, it's an old p4 which I'm not planning to upgrade :D
<14> where can i look to get my sound working ??
<17> idonthaveonesodo: /dev/dsp
<2> how was it... P4-HT only needs non-SMP kernel?
<5> owh: actually, all you want to do is see where the preinst is failing
<14> deadcat: thankyou, but im not that expert, i meant something like a manual or guide
<4> dondelelcaro: It's failing at the moment if I run it because it's not being "installed" or "upgraded"
<6> epsilon, mine's a northwood that doesn't even support HT, so yeah :)
<5> owh: if you add a set -x to it under the #! line, then run ./tmp/DEBIAN/preinst install; you can see what is going on
<6> By the way, what's the latest kernel in etch?
<4> Ah
<2> KodeK: don't be sure, HT cam with Northwood. I have 2,6GHz Northwood with HT running in a box
<6> epsilon, no, I'm just saying that mine doesn't support it :D
<2> ok :)
<3> KodeK : I believe it's 2.6.15
<18> is kdelibs-bin just lagging a bit? i used to use debfoster, learning aptitude but aptitude wants to remove it.. i know there's been lots of transitioning but i dont see any about kde.. should i block this action?
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