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<0> cptahab: however to upgrade that far there are some interesting challenges, such as the change in version of SWT libs
<1> abrotman: Did what format it?
<0> cptahab: have you performed an upgrade within the program?
<2> I thought /proc had some information about this sort of thing, the place where a usb pendrive would get ***igned its device name.
<3> Dewi: I merely tried, but I ***umed it would fail
<3> Dewi: As your first comment indicated
<4> owh: debootstrap ?
<1> abrotman: Why would it do that?
<0> cptahab: in my experience, it succeeds, but it fails to actually launch
<3> Dewi: That's how I found restartScript in /usr/share/azureus
<4> owh: you asked it to ?
<5> i am now convinced that xorg in etch is simply broken with respect to matrox cards ... can anyone shed any further light on the subject?
<1> abrotman: Nope. I asked it to install debian into a nicely mounted swap partition.
<0> cptahab: I don't even have that directory.
<3> Dewi: AFAI can remember, it did download the new version, but to my home directory. updating the .jars in /usr/share/azurues failed due to a lack of permissions
<5> well, presumably not *all* matrox cards, but at least the g400/g450/g550 family



<0> cptahab: my approach involved including '~/bin' in my PATH
<2> How can I mount my usb pen drive?
<4> caracal: checked the bts?
<0> cptahab: and then adding a script like this in ~/bin called 'azureus'
<4> owh: so update-grub can't find anything ?
<0> cptahab: see query
<5> abrotman: bts?
<4> !bts
<6> bts is the Bug Tracking System for Debian packages, http://bugs.debian.org/ or to go directly to the bug page for a particular package/bug, try http://bugs.debian.org/packagename or http://bugs.debian.org/bugnumber apt-get install reportbug, and check out querybts too. Unstable users are required to check the BTS, useful for sid: apt-get install apt-listbugs, or apt-get install apt-listchanges, or http://fabre.debian.net/
<1> abrotman: Is that available under RedHat?
<5> oh, that
<4> owh: should be in the debian install .. whereever you put that
<7> guys,any idea why debian has not released mysql's 5.0.22 ? the current version has a security issue in it.
<4> lakez: in which version of debian ?
<7> Security fix: A malicious client, using specially crafted invalid login or COM_TABLE_DUMP packets was able to read uninitialized memory, which potentially, though unlikely in MySQL, could have led to an information disclosure. (CVE-2006-1516, CVE-2006-1517) Thanks to Stefano Di Paola <stefano.dipaola@wisec.it> for finding and reporting this bug.
<7> Security fix: A malicious client, using specially crafted invalid COM_TABLE_DUMP packets was able to trigger an exploitable buffer overflow on the server. (CVE-2006-1518) Thanks to Stefano Di Paola <stefano.dipaola@wisec.it> for finding and reporting this bug.
<5> well, sorta, but let me look more closely
<3> Dewi: thanks
<7> abrotman, how do I see ? i think it's etch
<7> i'm new to debian...
<4> lakez: you're using mysql5 from etch .. on a production server?
<7> not production, local
<4> lakez: /msg dpkg testing security
<1> abrotman: Hold on. I'm running RedHat, I deactivated swap, ran debootstrap across it, chrooted into it, installed a minimal debian with lilo - didn't run any lilo commands, then exited the chroot, and I'm now at the point of getting my machine to reboot using my kernel and root drive.
<4> lakez: etch hasn't been released .. you'll get security updates if you're lucky :)
<4> owh: so ... debian has no lilo .. and you don't know how to configure grub ?
<8> lakez: Debian doesn't "release" upstream software. MySQL 5.0.22 is in Debian
<1> abrotman: Well, the debian root volume has lilo, but I cannot really run that to update the boot block without breaking stuff can I?
<1> abrotman: Yes, I don't know how to use grub also :-)
<4> owh: i can tell you how to run grub .. but i'm not sure it will work .. and it's remote
<7> what's the version before etch?
<7> i'll just downgrade
<9> /set logfile freenode.log
<4> you can't downgrade
<4> ojai: please don't
<8> lakez: sarge
<7> ok, if you're on sarge and they release etch, will it upgrade?
<4> depends
<4> !wwer
<10> So, a few days ago I was trying to compile cinilerra but get telling my I needed bzip2 development headers, so I used Alien to install those. Well last night was trying to upgrade KDE from 3.3.2 or whatever the stable release is to 3.5.2 last night using Konstruct. I kept getting errors and such so I finally gave up and added backports to my repository and ran an upgrade. I kept running into errors because of bzip2-dev, so I did a dpkg -
<10> -purge to remove it. Well, kde is broken and I can't launch programs. right now I'm doing a dist-upgrade to testing since I know I will be wanting to upgrade other crap.
<6> Etch will release WIR; SIYH. There are no current estimates. Ask me about <etch pool>, <wir>, <siyh>. Join in and help out, or see the release team's latest timeline at http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2006/05/msg00015.html
<11> I'd like to thank everyone who helped me go from sarge 2.4 to etch 2.6, and got my new nic to work in the process :D
<7> cheal, my apt-cache show mysql-server shows..5.0.20
<11> It's running great now :D
<4> Ashex: didn't LoRez already try to help you with this ?
<10> Yeah, but I didn't have any success
<4> lakez: apt-get update
<10> I'm doing a dist-upgrade to testing
<12> !dpkg SIYH
<6> well, siyh is Sooner If You Help, or see "wir" and "rsn"
<4> though mine is 5.0.22 .. but it's just mysql .. who cares
<10> My question is, if I do this dist-upgrade and get kde upgraded properlym will I have the applications menu back?
<4> Ashex: ok .. so paste the error somewhere
<1> abrotman: Given that I know lilo better, am I smarter to use lilo to make a boot block - given that the old one is already gone, or can I find a way to confirm that first?
<5> okay, everybody who has had this bug has either (a) been using mga_hal (direct from Matrox) and stopped, (b) not been using mga_hal and started, or (c) downgraded xorg from 6.9.0 to 6.8.2 ... i'm thinking of trying (c), since i don't use mga_hal and don't especially want to
<4> owh: i switched from lilo a while ago
<10> abrotman, http://pastebin.com/749639
<7> abrotman, can you look at http://pastebin.com/750372 ... that info is either wrong or i'm doing something wrong : Put "deb http://security.debian.org etch/updates main contrib non-free" in your /etc/apt/sources.list file. Regularly update your APT index and upgrade (e.g. # aptitude update && aptitude dist-upgrade) to keep up-to-date on security updates in Etch
<5> i wonder if i can do that by just saying aptitude install xserver-xorg=6.8.2 ... something tells me that won't actually "just work"



<4> !tell Ashex about overwrite
<1> abrotman: That is, use grub to figure out how it will boot when I restart the thing.
<4> hehe
<13> why does umount -f not unmount something?!
<4> lakcaj: eh .. your sources?
<13> and why does lsof not work when a nfs mount is down
<1> myren: Something is using it, use lsof | grep {mount point|
<4> myren: because it's down
<13> yeah, see, losf isnt working
<13> i have a nfs link i basically always leave open, even when i dont have a net connect
<13> and now i have an external hard drive plugged in
<13> since lsof doesnt work, i cant see whats using my hard drive
<1> abrotman: Can I get grub to tell me how it's going to boot?
<4> owh: you mean besides looking in the conf file ?
<13> what a terrible god awful design
<14> abrotman: I suspect that was for lakez
<1> abrotman: Well, yeah, seeing that the conf file likely points to things that are no longer there, and I don't actually know where it lives either.
<4> lakcaj: oh .. probably ...
<4> lakez: your sources!
<4> owh: and you're not sure what will be where ?
<1> abrotman: The conf file(s) :-)
<1> abrotman: For grub.
<4> /boot/grub/menu.lst
<5> bah, of course there's no version 6.8.2 of xorg, since my sources.list doesn't point to one
<1> abrotman: Well that doesn't exist.
<13> GGrreeat, restart X, kill all my programs, make sure no one is holding my nfs mount. Demount nfs and LSOF finally graces me by working
<13> and tells me not a ****ing soul is using /mnt/music
<13> which i still cannot umount
<4> owh: this is going to end badly eh ? :)
<1> abrotman: That's what I'm afraid of :-(
<15> poor debian, ubuntu has more ;(
<4> myren: how about /mnt/ ?
<4> ****ing stupid trolls
<13> no takers in lsof
<4> though .. he's a stupid troll too
<4> owh: so you're already out of the chroot ?
<13> thankfully debian has less. less idiots like him.
<1> abrotman: Yup
<4> i don't understand what he means .. because .. he's just damn stupid
<16> question: what is the most basic way to setup most all of debian's basic system settings besides /etc and dpkg-reconfigure ?
<13> bollox, i'm sorry ext3, but you are about to be very rudely disconnected.
<4> nooooooooooooooooooooooo
<13> *cought* bitch *cough*
<4> oh wait .. the external device is ext3 ?
<13> yeah
<4> tried to sync it before umount ?
<16> oskie: fedora has system-xxxx-setup .. etc ...
<4> (though .. umount should do that)
<16> er ie:
<4> ProphetPX: what do you mena ?
<17> hi. does debian include non-free package SunJava?
<4> jhenn: yes and no
<16> i mean, does debian have some program that can set everything up in, like redhat or fedora has
<17> abrotman: thats against the dfsg
<17> abrotman: isn't it
<16> oskie: fedora has xxxxx-setup or setup-xxxx ... does debian have anything like that
<4> ProphetPX: you mean like kickstart for RH ?
<18> jhenn: no. but debian does, for now, distribute a sun java pacakge in non-free in unstable
<1> abrotman: Can I get grub to do a non-destructive "show me your money" command, so I can figure out if it's already fsked before I really break it with lilo?
<16> like a sys-wide setup tool
<13> is there any way to see the CWD of all my programs?
<4> jhenn: it got into unstable .. but i think it's coming back out
<17> stew: can i message you
<17> abrotman: its in base?
<4> jhenn: so .. /msg dpkg install java
<16> i need to re-setup my console ... it's flakey
<19> ProphetPX, nano ;)
<18> jhenn: and /msg dpkg java-package
<4> jhenn: it was in non-free
<16> lmao yeah yeha ... tell me another one


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