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<0> heycam: dpkg -i package1.deb package2.deb
<1> goron: i have enough experience in IT to know that my opinion of the average luser is justified
<2> starfishy: and what are your rates?
<3> thingfish: but what if the second package has lots of other dependencies it wants to get from an APT source? i don't want to have to follow them manually.
<4> if anyone is bored though .. they can help me figure out why a beta SSR email web client(not in debian) can't use IMAP auth against an exchange server .. yay
<1> no, they'd have to pay me less because a lot of lusers would waste time and money shutting down
<2> starfishy: I am not doubting that.
<1> :)
<5> starfishy: what ever rates you can get is great but not if you profer false security like bike locks single user p***words
<6> sigh
<1> goron: ill tell you that in a private meeting if you are interested in hiring me
<4> shut down the computers!
<6> we got ppl with real questions here and I can't help!
<4> why?
<1> konfuzed: id prefer if you would not misrepresent me
<6> abrotman: I am not so good as you guys
<4> Azar: if you put people on ignore .. the noise goes away
<4> oh
<6> :)
<7> heycam: after you run dpkg -i, run "apt-get -f install"
<1> i say that a single user p***word makes sense and in most environments it does
<8> anyone know why i need to ping a repository server b4 APT can access it?
<3> oh, my mistake: it seems to have righted itself just by doing a few more tries of apt-get install and dpkg -i...
<9> Azar: ya cuts downon the signal to noise ratio nicely
<4> karl: b4?
<4> !b4
<10> try "before", moron. B4 I17 N34 G58 O69 .... BINGO!
<1> there are exceptions and if you really want an environment without a single user p***word you are welcome to modify your machines accordingly
<3> clever apt-get :)
<6> karl try apt setup and pick a better source for yourself ?
<2> starfishy: I don't think I will ever hire you, since you can't solve all problems when you can't be here(like in a different country).
<5> starfishy: I would prefer if you did not misrepresent what comprises sensible security
<8> if i run aptget update, it cant reach the repo, if i ping the repo first then apt can access and update install etc
<2> starfishy: I was just interested in rates. I heard 550$/hour once for some very specialized db admin
<1> konfuzed: i was not misrepresenting anythin, i merely don't share your opinion
<5> starfishy: ok given I know I can remove the single user mode p***word demand but
<6> karl is apt-get not aptget
<1> konfuzed, could you please rephrase that, that sentence doesnt make sense
<7> konfuzed: what is the problem you are trying to solve?
<1> goron: i wont post my rates on a public forum, i hope you understand
<8> azar: i know, lazy fingers
<5> this moved to pros and cons os securyt or applicable security or real security or what is really being secured against anyway
<4> stew: i think they're just arguing
<6> stew, konfuzed is tormented by the perfect security settings
<5> Azar: perfect is so subjective
<2> starfishy: yeah, you use social engineering to convince people of how reasonable your rates are. Everyone does that.
<1> no, i use my skills to justify my rates
<6> konfuzed: perfect is not a wrong wish, is just workable
<4> those poor ****ers :)
<1> social engineering always eventually bites you
<5> Azar: im konfuzed by your sentence
<2> starfishy: IT is very big, what can you do in IT?
<11> hello
<6> :) blame it on the wine, konfuzed
<11> where do I configure a wireless pcmcia card under debian kernel 2.6 ?
<11> (now that pcmcia-cs is deprecated)
<7> Mage_: you are compiling your own kernel? why?
<12> this just in: looking for the pinout of a Matrox G400 TV cable
<11> yes I am compiling my own kernel
<1> abrotman: must be fun to denigrate someone just because they dont share your superior opinion
<4> starfishy: hey .. you're the one who said it was superior
<11> but where do I specify the wireless KEY, channel, etc ?
<4> :)
<1> i dont call you stupid just because you botched the math big time
<5> starfishy: I do realize that (somewhere) i can config single user mode to not request a p***word at boot or login I suppose that it actually byp***es login altogether - that said, that was not my point, my point was single mode p***word is only delusional security
<7> Mage_: man wireless ; man interfaces
<7> konfuzed: if you have an actual debian related question, just ask it, your long winded diatribe on security doens't seem to be getting anywhere
<1> and id prefer you not calling me stupid just because I happen not to share a lot of your opinionated opinions
<4> starfishy: i said i missed something .. obviously i stuck it out there for peer approval :)
<5> ok
<11> No manual entry for wireless
<11> and there is nothing in the interfaces manpages about wireless config
<7> Mage_: install wireless-tools
<5> now that i forgot the damn p***word how do I shut it down with out pulling the power
<1> konfuzed: a single user p***word alone is no security at all
<4> you already said it was superior .. you can't take it back!
<1> its one lego in a big building of security legos
<2> abrotman: you are really funny
<4> goron: it's not intentional .. it's the umbrella hat
<1> where did I say superior?
<7> Mage_: what version doesn "dpkg -l ifupdwon" report?
<13> Hi, I accedenatly removed the mysql logs files; a few hours later I restarted mysql and it failed (no logs i ***ume); what log files are there again mysql.log, mysql.err ?
<5> starfishy: a single user mode p***word only serves to diminish security because it protects against nothing
<1> oh
<7> Mage_: er ifupdown rather
<1> that was sarcasm
<11> 0.6.7
<2> Let me restate that hypothesis, IRC is funny.
<14> I am running snmpd on my router, I have configure mrtg to monitor the stats. What I need is another tool which would monitor and inteface and output the amount of traffic p***es since a specified time
<11> (I'm not on my laptop at the moment)
<14> anyone knows such utility ?:)
<1> no, it protects against a casual attack
<11> but it's the same config
<1> just like a bicycle lock prevents a random kid from stealing the bike
<7> Mage_: then your interfaces(5) does in fact talk about wireless, (and refers to the wireless manpage from wireless-tools)
<1> if someone wants the bike or get by the security lock, they can
<15> Any of you guys use ldap for pam ?
<2> starfishy: do you also know how the math of security?
<11> ok thanks
<1> but it makes accessing the system a little bit harder
<4> k31th: many people do
<1> at practically zero expense
<2> starfishy: *know
<16> goron: math of security ?
<5> starfishy: there are no casual attack possibilities taking place ina server room
<2> cisse: yes, crypto protocols, etc.
<5> starfishy: only for the valid admin
<4> and you guys thought i was funny
<1> you type your p***word how many times a day, konfuzed?
<15> abrotman: bit worried about doing it on this box as its live
<2> cisse: why they are secure or not, etc.
<7> this conversation is never going to go anywhere
<4> k31th: well .. sure .. i can see that being a bit of a concern :)
<1> konfuzed: since when are all systems in a locked server room?
<16> goron: math in what way ?
<9> stew: you dont like circles?
<5> obviously I dont type this root p***word often enough because I login as a regular user
<1> and as servers only go down a few times a year if that the p***word for single user is virtually zero effort there
<5> like one is supposed to
<2> cisse: how do you mean what way? Cryptographic protocols are based on numbers.
<1> where did i say 'root p***word'?
<1> i said 'your p***word'
<16> sure but cryptography is a very small part of security
<5> my root p***word vs the regular user p***word
<2> cisse: sure, there are also social aspects.
<1> konfuzed, you need to start reading what i write instead of using your own liberal interpretations
<15> abrotman: yes, not to mention its not a debian box its some scumy CentSO thing. (painfull)
<1> you type _a_p***word_ several times a day
<1> you type the root p***word for single user maybe once a month
<5> i type dozens of p***words dozens of times a day
<4> k31th: well .. you might want to ask that channelt hen
<1> unless you are not worth a penny as sysadmin
<1> my point exactly
<15> abrotman: ,humm.... maybe
<1> how often did you type the root p***word to access single user mode within the last month?
<5> i only need to go to single user mode to reset a lost root p***word, in that I have rarely had to use single user mode for file system repair
<17> is there some way to automatically accept the ssh key on first connect (yes, i know security implications...)?
<6> :D
<4> keherman: man ssh yielded nothing ?
<17> abrotman, not that i could find
<4> starfishy: why? .. i'm not waving my **** around
<5> keherman: tred carefully , that may be the wrong kettle of fish here at the moment
<6> hahahaha
<16> keherman: i'm pretty sure you can't it's a 'security feature'
<1> on the contrary, you are just so conceited that you dont even notice it any more
<4> starfishy: or i'm confident i don't have to ?
<18> keherman man ssh_config
<17> cisee, yes i understand i guess
<19> The Nvidia drivers is under non-free, which else chipsets is recommended?
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