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<0> what happens when you put yourself in charge of something without knowing wtf you're doing, I s'pose
<1> With regards to the em font size measurement. If I define a font-size of 10px in html { ... } ... then using em after that will give me a size relative to 10px right ?
<2> sort of, yes
<3> Does the z-index work in all browsers?
<2> ;support z-index
<2> :(
<0> minibot got split
<0> http://webdevout.net/browser_support/css/z-index/
<0> derek_: basically, yes
<0> Minibot: :)
<0> ;support z-index
<4> reisio: http://www.w3.org/TR/html401/struct/links.html#edef-A
<4> reisio: z-index { IE 6: 62.5% | IE 7: 62.5% | Firefox 1.5: 87.5% | Opera 8.5: 87.5% } http://www.webdevout.net/browser_support_css.php#support-css2propsbasic-zindex
<3> k
<3> and safari?
<3> I hope there's a safari emulator to test css on non-mac OS.
<0> derek_: supports it I'm sure
<0> derek_: there isn't
<3> reisio: k
<0> welcome to the happy land of proprietary software
<0> `browser shots
<5> browser shots: Free: browsershots.org , danvine.com/icapture/ , danvine.com/iecapture/ ; Pay: browsercam.com (see fundables.org)
<6> Hi. In CSS, how would I make ordered lists which would work like so: 1.0 first item 1,1 first subitem of first item 1.2 second subitem of first item 2.0 second item , etc.
<0> `css list-style-type
<5> css list-style-type: http://w3.org/TR/CSS21/generate.html#propdef-list-style-type
<6> Thanks. *reads*
<3> reisofs
<0> ?
<7> what's the diff. between css2.1 and 1
<8> Got two ULs with two LIs using the same cl***, all within one DIV... the problem: the LI in the first UL and the LI in the second UL try to match their block lengths... any "fixes" to this?
<0> albacker: should be a diff on w3.org somewhere
<0> albacker: added a few things, axed a few things that weren't ever implemented
<0> albacker: 2.1 is more representative of the current state of affairs than 2
<8> So, if you have "Blah Blah" in the second LI of the second UL and "Blah" in the first LI of the first UL, and you do a background-color of blue on LI, it'll show that the first LI is blue until the end of the second... which isn't what I want... any ideas?
<8> Is this not clear?
<8> ...?
<0> I'm reading, chill
<9> you dont want the styling to be applied to nested lists
<8> Sorry to hurry you... just late at night.
<8> Munter: Me?
<0> yes you
<2> Capso: you want both lists to be the same width?
<8> Hm... I don't think it is the styling...
<2> Seriema!
<10> FunkyBob!
<2> Seriema: how's it going?
<8> Since the stylig doesn't seem to be doing this.
<10> the page is looking good :D
<8> FunkyBob: No... they are currently the same width... I DON'T want them to be.
<10> but I've got a problem with Netscape :( it doesn't want to make my input type="text" in a height that lets you actually see what you're typing!
<8> s/stylig/styling
<2> Seriema: erk
<2> Capso: URL?
<2> Seriema: what have you set its height to?
<10> FunkyBob: it ignores the height command completely :/
<10> as does all browsers I've tried on :(
<11> theres a functional behavior to make :hover :active :focus... works properly on IE?
<2> scai: they work only on anchor tags in IE... but there is a hack, afaik
<2> `hoverhack
<2> hmm
<2> `hover hack
<11> FunkyBob: I know that.. but can u show me that hack plz?
<9> scai: I am pretty sure :focus doesnt work in IE
<8> Is it against standards to do <li><li> ?
<9> Capso: no
<8> Don't you have to do <li><ul><li> ?
<2> scai: I'm trying to remember the key for it in RTFS
<2> `ie hoverhack
<5> ie hoverhack: www.xs4all.nl/~peterned/csshover.html (working example: www.xs4all.nl/~peterned/examples/cssmenu.html )
<2> try that :)
<11> tkz...
<11> I need only to add that behavior on css then :hover will work in IE on other tags than <a>?
<2> don't know... read it
<11> ok..
<10> FunkyBob: you haven't got a nice netscape hack for me do you? hehe
<8> What is a simplified form of saying: li:hover ul, li:hover li:hover ul ?
<12> Hello. http://rafb.net/paste/results/L0XP5l63.html Can anyone say why position of "test1" text isn't calculated relatively to parent div but relatively to all document? I need to define coordinates relative to that div, so what should I do?
<8> As in, parent>child relationship?
<13> crem: Because absolute positioning is relative to the edges of the containing block, which is the nearest ancestor that isn't positioned statically. Since that outside div is positioned statically, it doesn't have any influence.
<11> FunkyBob: ty.. is a very nice hack
<12> Dorward, Hmmm.. So what should I do? Write "position: relative; top:0px; left:0px" to that div?
<14> *sigh* I'm getting tired of hacking my div-based 3 column + header and footer design, does anybody have stuggestions for good tutorials? I basically wish to let all the three columns decide the height of the <div id="columns-container"><div id="left" /><div id="content" /><div id="right"/></div> and place the footer and header above and on top. Does anybody have any suggestions for good tutorials or articles or even reference sites or templates for thi
<0> ocr--: grab a template from http://pmob.co.uk/ maybe
<9> ocr--: What is the problem? just make #columns-container contain the flow
<15> Hey
<14> Munter: my col-container only holds position: relative;
<15> How can I have two DIV's next to each other, I've tried the float: left on both DIV's but .... the second div ( on the right ) still goes underneath the other DIV
<9> ocr--: aha, so you are using positioning for columns? dont. use flaots
<9> *floats
<15> but if I specify a Width for the First DIV, then it works - but I want the first DIV ( On the lefT ) to expand out to the second div ( on the right )
<16> hi
<12> Dorward, it works. Thanks.
<2> AlexC_: float one div, give it a width, and margin-left the second div that width
<15> FunkyBob: I don't want to give it a width - because i'd like it so that they can expand
<2> AlexC_: so give it a % width
<15> FunkyBob: nah it wont work - because I want it so that if the DIV on the right has more content ( width wise ) then it will expand and be the biggest DIV, same with the left div
<15> basicly I need the behaviour of <table> but in DIV's
<14> Munter: the problem is i'm working with a very web-unfriendly design, which I apparantly have to uphold, so I have very little freedom in expressing the positions and such; I even have to include 1500px long sidebars on both left and right side
<2> AlexC_: display: table-cell; ?
<2> ;support table-cell
<4> FunkyBob: table-cell { IE 6: N | IE 7: N | Firefox 1.5: Y | Opera 8.5: Y } http://www.webdevout.net/browser_support_css.php#support-css2propsbasic-display
<9> ocr--: So what does this have to do with using positioning instead of floats?
<15> i'll try it now,
<2> AlexC_: it won't work in IE
<14> Munter: the sections must be on exact pixels and the design must be consistent, I guess I could use an outer div that controls this and float cols inside, but I guess thats what I need a tutorial for
<15> FunkyBob: ahhhhhhh good
<9> ocr--: you dont need a tutorial. just float one column left, float one right, and apply margins to the cotnent. done
<10> I can't seem to call the IE filter PNG thingie from CSS :/
<10> I've tried several tuts
<9> Seriema: url?
<14> Munter: should the margins apply to both sides, wouldn't that stirr the layout for different resolutions, etc?
<9> ocr--: Why would it?
<17> hi all
<0> 'lo
<17> Check out this site http://www.surprises.tg/basic/tabmenu.html with IE. I'm have problem rendering correctly the hover effect
<10> Munter: it's not up, but I've tried this "filter:progid:DXImageTransform.Microsoft.AlphaImageLoader(src='file:...',sizingMethod='crop')"
<0> ;support vertical-align
<4> reisio: vertical-align { IE 6: 45.833% | IE 7: 45.833% | Firefox 1.5: 58.333% | Opera 8.5: Y } http://www.webdevout.net/browser_support_css.php#support-css2propsbasic-verticalalign
<2> !v http://www.surprises.tg/basic/tabmenu.html
<5> HTML: Not valid - Error: 1, http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http://www.surprises.tg/basic/tabmenu.html/
<5> CSS: Valid - http://jigsaw.w3.org/css-validator/validator?uri=http://www.surprises.tg/basic/tabmenu.html/
<9> Seriema: src='file..' ?
<9> the src is supposed to be an url
<10> the ... was the url
<2> nvictor: well, it's _possible_ the issue is that IE doesn't support XHTML...
<10> i.e. I didn't want to write it out here
<9> Seriema: So what with the
<9> 'file:' thing?
<17> reisio: is the vertical align a suggestion for me?
<10> Munter: I also tried ...AlphaImageLoader(src='bilder/buttons/download_small_idle.png', sizingMethod='scale');
<0> nvictor: nope
<9> Seriema: And even if your src is correct, we cannot help you with a snippet out of context. We nee to see it
<17> ah ok
<0> no idea what your issue is
<2> nvictor: just curious - why did you choose to use XHTML?
<10> Munter: ok let me upload it then
<17> FunkyBob: because I'm creating a skin for an application; which use XHTML
<2> fairy nuff
<2> what's the app, btw?
<17> vanilla
<17> FunkyBob: http://www.surprises.tg/basic/tabmenu.html
<17> look, this is the final verison
<17> not working well on IE
<18> hi.. i'm trying to repeat an image, but i'm trying to repeat it so that the next row is off by like.. 20 pixles..
<18> here's the site www.local-culture.com
<18> notice now it's just normally repeating, any ideas as to how to do this?
<2> nvictor: look up "sliding doors tabs"
<17> http://getvanilla.com/
<17> FunkyBob, well, I'm trying to avoid sliding doors
<17> they are not quite accessible
<17> FunkyBob: are you under firefox?
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