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<0> then ntop%
<0> err ntop&
<1> well no
<1> you could do ctrl+z and then type bg
<0> i see
<1> or "ntop [params] &"
<0> and what does ctrl+z do?
<1> sends a suspend message I think
<1> (I'm not sure what the three letter code is for that one :P)
<0> ah ok
<0> i did ctrl+z then bg to run it as a background process
<2> so, have a question
<1> somegeek, we might have an answer
<2> i make a horizontal list with <li>
<2> can i align it horizontal with div block width ?



<1> um I'm not sure what you mean
<2> ok, i try expplain
<3> http://www.appletalk.com.au/articles/12-inchB/001.jpg
<3> oh yes
<3> you will be mine.
<3> yes, you will be mine.
<3> It'll just take a while, lol.
<2> i can past a pice of code
<3> use pastebin
<4> hey, this is sort of off topic, but ... what popular sites can you think of that use Tags ?
<2> decore: is this pic for me ?
<4> I have newsvine, technorati, del.icio.us, and flickr.
<3> booper: no
<5> how do i stop a float from breaking a border? I have tried using a surrounding div it still breaks out http://erxz.com/pb/2431
<6> cello_rasp: http://www.complexspiral.com/publications/containing-floats/
<5> sweet :)
<7> is emacs the editor of choice for web developers or should a more specialized package be used?
<8> Is there a page with Mozilla's css syntax?
<8> i.e. -moz-border-botom
<9> is there a way to get a div to be the full height of its container? thing is, the container doesn't have a set height. 100% works as it should in ff/o9 but ie's a retard
<9> i've also tried top: 0; bottom: 0; -- no dice
<8> tremby: did you try reducing the line height?
<9> crzygrndpa: line-height's set to 1%, but it's being too small rather than too big.
<10> how can i set the window size of a target="_blank" window?
<9> Elekchron: with javascript
<9> #javascript
<9> or google
<11> ok
<11> I give up trying to guess wtf is going on
<11> Any crack css expert want to give me a quick analysis?
<12> I'll have a look anyway...!
<11> lol
<11> ok
<11> www.highpoly3d.com
<11> see how different it is in firefox compared to IE.
<11> for once it seems to work in IE
<12> oh my life
<12> !v www.highpoly3d.com
<13> HTML: Not valid - Errors: 27, http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http://www.highpoly3d.com/
<13> CSS: Valid - Warnings: 10, http://jigsaw.w3.org/css-validator/validator?uri=http://www.highpoly3d.com/
<12> That's your first problem.... sort out those errors and you'll find it looks good in ff not ie ;)
<11> not really
<12> but then people will be able to help you better...
<11> the 27 errors is only because I am using strict and have a table
<12> You're allowed tables in strict o.O
<12> Then change it to transitional?
<12> <!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/loose.dtd">;
<12> oh I see...
<12> those errors are all from embed
<12> two of them you can fix ;)
<11> how so?
<11> btw
<11> i had it transitional
<11> but everyoen told me i need to make it strict for the future
<12> What was their reason?
<11> transitional wont be supported in theory
<12> aaahh
<11> hmm
<11> looking at that css stuff



<11> it bitches if I dont specify background colors?
<11> interesting
<12> They are only warnings, if you set the background colour but not the text colour it generates a warning (and vice versa
<12> )
<11> well..
<11> it still looks bad
<11> !v highpoly3d.com
<13> HTML: Not valid - Errors: 27, http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http://highpoly3d.com/
<13> CSS: Valid - Warnings: 9, http://jigsaw.w3.org/css-validator/validator?uri=http://highpoly3d.com/
<11> oh wow, fixed 1 whole warning
<14> Don't worry too much about CSS warnings. They're more like tips than warnings.
<11> k
<11> anyway, im about to p*** out.
<11> going off for a bit, bbl
<15> Anyone up?
<16> ;>
<17> Platyna: I can't access the information database right now.
<15> http://nanosouffle.net/test -- I want the LIs to be just as large as the text, not the whole size of the window...
<15> Any ideas?
<18> i'm looking at this guys css and am trying to figure out what this does: font: 10pt/16pt arial;
<18> is that even valid
<16> >
<16> ;>
<18> ?
<16> Is that Minibot a bot?
<16> ;)
<15> Neprak: No.
<18> Capso: thanks
<15> neprak: Unless they mean 0.625pt.
<18> heh
<6> neprak: Font size / line height ... but pt units are a really bad idea, and relative units for line height play much better when the user changes their font size.
<15> Oh, really?
<6> Capso: Really
<18> Dorward: interesting, thanks
<15> Indeed. :D
<15> http://nanosouffle.net/test -- I want the LIs to be just as large as the text, not the whole size of the window... any ideas?
<18> is px or em preferred for font-size?
<18> in the body
<6> neprak: em ... although for body text the user's default is the best bet.
<15> Dorward and/or b0at: Perhaps you can help me there?
<9> http://www.pocketbookofproofreading.co.uk/about.php -- any idea why even though padding is set to 100px on all sides, ie decides there shouldn't be any on the right?
<6> Capso: display: table; will cause shrink wrapping in browsers that support it ... which doesn't in IE unfortunately.
<15> Meh.
<15> Dorward: I need it to work in IE>
<15> s/>/.
<19> bye
<20> Has anyone seen nice looking portlets recently? I'm looking for some inspiration.
<15> Dorward: Any other ideas?
<6> Capso: no
<15> You didn't even consider display: inline; ?
<15> Anyways, it's not the best solution to my problem. :/
<15> b0at: Any ideas?
<21> Float, position, inline, inline-block, table-cell; it really depends on what, where, and why
<15> b0at: Did you take a look at the URL?
<21> yes
<15> It's a small part of a links menu, actually...
<15> Hover menu... the only problem I had was that the li was too huge... I just need it to be the size of text.
<15> b0at: I need them to be in a list... meaning one above the other, and the LIs to be the size of the actual text.
<15> b0at: You've seen the UL LI layout I use there... what do you believe is the best solution?
<21> I don't fully understand the problem or where it's going... but even then, it isn't going to be trivial with IE to consider.
<21> Use a span inside the li with a background. Does that work? Why not?
<15> b0at: That works... but then hovering becomes a problem.
<15> b0at: You see the nested ULs within the LIs?
<21> Yes
<15> b0at: When you hover over the text in the LI, the stuff in the nested UL is supposed to appear.
<21> adjacent selector
<15> (Crappy keyboard... takes time to type. :/ )
<15> b0at: I used to do li>ul:hover type stuff... but that doesn't work in IE. :/
<21> It does with (parts of) the "IE7" script.
<21> CSS 2 selectors do, that is.
<15> How about IE 6 or IE 5?
<21> `ie7
<13> ie7: http://dean.edwards.name/IE7/overview/ (It's not IE version 7. READ.)
<15> Oh. hah.


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