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<0> and also, i dont see any ID repeated
<1> don't know how you'd do it in PHP... I never use that crap
<1> you have id="comment" twice
<0> no i dont
<0> hmm
<1> <li><textarea name="comment" id="comment"></textarea></li>
<1> tell that to the validator
<0> hmmm
<0> ahh
<0> any idea how i can fix my margin problem?
<1> would it be such a chore to fix those 3 errors, first?
<0> i fixed the id thing
<0> as for php, i dont know
<1> I don't expect you to fix PHP... it's beyond help :P
<1> and don't worry about the ampersand escaping
<0> and the no script thing
<0> its just extremetracker
<0> so its nothing big
<1> ... so fix it
<0> i didnt write all that crap
<0> so i dont know how to fix it
<1> ok, which gap?
<0> ok all the way bottom of the page
<0> in FF, theres a margin i dont want
<0> after the footer, where it says All rights reserved
<1> that's on the parent... a wrapper somewhere well up the tree
<0> hmm
<0> i have margin 0 auto on everything
<0> let me see again
<2> if no other divs have a z-index, if i specify one for only one, will that take the top?
<0> hmm im not sure whats causing it
<1> body or html
<1> it seems
<0> i have margin 0auto on body
<0> and i also hvae * {margin: 0; padding:0;}
<3> um so how can i have relative positioning
<3> but start an element below anotheer elment
<3> i know how to float left/right
<0> so umm, any idea on how i can fix that?
<1> not without looking further at it, and I'm afraid work calls....
<4> are there known problems with text-align:middle;?
<4> all of the elements inside my text-align:middle; element are not aligning in the slightest to the middle
<5> There is no such thing.
<5> `css text-align
<6> css text-align: http://w3.org/TR/CSS21/text.html#propdef-text-align
<7> hehe
<4> >_>?
<4> yes there freekin is...
<4> This property describes how inline content of a block is aligned.
<4> apparently they want center; though, not middle
<7> center==middle?
<5> eval: "center" ne "middle" ? 1:0
<4> lol, doesn't usually mean that
<4> but center is more appropriate for this anyway
<4> hold
<4> ok, it aligned the text, but not the elements afaict
<5> `center
<6> center: http://dorward.me.uk/www/centre/
<8> night all
<4> problem more or less solved i believe with the <center> tag lols
<5> Wouldn't want to actually read anything.
<1> hesperaux: except the <center> tag is deprecated
<5> The element is, too.
<5> he says as the smile creeps across his face
<1> :)
<1> thanks
<4> deprecated !== unworking
<1> hesperaux: no, but it is poor practice
<4> i'm sure
<4> but i can't even use fscking <style></style>
<4> or a .css
<1> b0at: I think that may be the first time today I've used "tag" when I meant "element" :)
<4> i have to use inline styles for everything
<1> why?
<4> so i stopped caring about semantics a while ago
<4> cuz the host is gay...
<1> b0at: see, I object when people use "gay" as a derogatory term
<4> i'm cheating already... you're supposed to use their little design crap
<2> is there a way to hide divs?
<4> my client bought the package, not me
<1> prium: display: none;
<2> thank you sir
<4> FunkyBob, i'm sorry. but you still now what i mean, obviously, so...thought communicated
<1> hesperaux: yes, but it also carries with it subtext of "this person is an idiot."
<4> FunkyBob, don't care what you think i am, mate
<4> cuz that's not what i am. i mean, since we know each other so well already. i can tell you're a perceptive bloke
<5> You see, you won't like any reaction
<4> oi vey, i am gonna get banned from this channel too
<4> that would ****
<4> so i'm sorry, and i'll stfu
<5> Not for that you won't.
<1> thing is... b0at gave you a link to the correct way... which is, really, quite simple
<1> so, at least take note of it for next time
<4> FunkyBob, i'm reading his link right now
<1> cool
<4> i'm in another channel and when i was there i thought of <center> and tried it, then i talked here
<4> then i saw his link
<4> b0at, and in response to that lol, yes i would if it was ##php. they ban you if you're a noob. i got banned on these words: "<mynick>: go RTFM"
<7> hesperaux: <center> is not unsupported per se by browsers, but it has been deprecated for some time now and in close proximity to be extinct
<4> in reality, he just didn't like me. i'm a nice guy, but i just stopped caring about being nice on irc - cuz it's irc. =/ freenode doesn't agree with that behavior though lol
<5> That place is odd, and should not be held up as representative of IRC in general.
<5> fwiw
<4> CommandPrompt, rgr that
<4> b0at, i'm glad you think so, and i hope you're right about me having false generalizations
<1> besides... it's full of PHP users... :P
<4> b0at, it's the second or third time i've been banned from that channel, meh
<5> Some people would honestly call that the dregs of the network, in fact.
<4> FunkyBob, i used to use php like crazy. then i learned CSS and realized that CSS can do a lot of things that PHP helps with
<1> heh
<5> I wouldn't know, I try to stay away.
<1> hesperaux: erk
<4> now i just include with php, more or less
<4> FunkyBob, don't ask how it does - i know they have totally different purposes. but i use crap for the wrong thing most of the time lol
<1> hesperaux: I wonder how much of your PHP you could ditch by using the CML in LigHTTPD...
<4> FunkyBob, don't know what you mean, but i might consider it for my own site if it's DIY-able. I host my own site and stuff.
<1> hesperaux: LigHTTPD (a web server) has a Cache Management Language (actually Lua)
<1> it allows you to do simple page combining
<1> as well as caching logic
<4> hmm, cool
<4> but i do still have use for php
<4> i'm intending to write an automatic gallery creator
<4> but it's proving to be a b**ch
<1> well, if you can bear to learn Pythong, I'd recommend you take a look at Django
<4> >_< i **** with php in terms of syntax. i want to use imagemagick but i can't seem to get it to execute anything.
<4> FunkyBob, if i was gonna learn something, i would want it to be something that is common on most webservers - supported i mean.
<9> anyone have suggestions or examples of how I can make this in such a way that the text part is actual TEXT ? http://papernapkin.org/pastebin/app/view/464
<4> just cuz i could then use it for jobs
<4> and as much as i deny being a webdesigner, it seems to be something i'm offered on very often. *sigh*
<4> btw, the margin-left/right: auto; works fine
<4> i just have one question now. I need to get the elements to listen still to the margin properties yet not follow the document flow
<4> `css position
<6> css position: http://w3.org/TR/CSS21/visuren.html#propdef-position
<4> fixed isn't the ticket
<1> no.. no it isn't :)
<4> and what i want seems to be a paradox to css
<1> could you be a little clearer on what you want?
<4> i'll try:
<4> i have an element devoted to being a background color layer, and then another that houses my content - we'll call it body
<4> body has two spans...the banner image and the links, and then one div that will have all my text for the page
<5> I can call you Betty
<5> And Betty, when you call me you can call me Al
<7> only if you'd be my bodyguard
<1> you can be my long lost friend!
<4> on top of everything, i have two strips that make up the edges of the site boundaries
<4> short gradients if you will that are just bordering the page, cuz the whole page is supposed to be centered
<1> hesperaux: ok... so you center your wrapper div, and apply the background to it...
<4> >_>
<4> what do you mean by wrapper div. which one are you referring to. you might say i have two of them
<5> Say the outermost one
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