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<0> And they all have `bot` in their names actually :)
<1> i see 204 total here, he counts as one, you as one, that leaves 202 minus the bots
<2> Zoffix: http://www.albion.com/netiquette/rule9.html
<2> i don't see a poll held
<2> can't speak for others
<1> second thought, he counts .3 and you 1.7
<3> Zoffix stop taking advantage of flaccid
<2> Zoffix: http://www.albion.com/netiquette/rule1.html
<2> Zoffix: http://www.albion.com/netiquette/rule10.html
<3> flaccid: I think he'd have you ignore unto him as well
<3> so no rule broken there
<2> this one is pretty important as well: http://www.albion.com/netiquette/rule2.html
<2> who is the judge??
<0> ouch
<0> I just lagged and got all those "Zoffix" at one time
<2> cool
<2> some semantic emphasis
<3> here's yours flaccid: http://www.albion.com/netiquette/rule4.html
<0> flaccid: well, actually, what happened now is a pretty good example. I just lagged and technically were "ignoring" you. I might've never came back. I may have network issues. I may be busy. Do you want me to continue? I don't know JS. I don't know anything about that thing you asked me about. What do you want me to say? "I dunno what that is" ? So, 204 users would get it? which translates to around 1000 packets (at the least) that the freenode sever has
<0> to send just to keep YOUR *** happy
<0> Ah! tpope, that's a perfect one :)
<2> Zoffix: ok so that is what it takes to get a response from you?
<2> tpope: and what did i break?
<3> wasting zoffix's time
<2> that was not in the url you pasted
<0> flaccid: I am a busy person. I don't feel like wasting my freetime (which is about 2 hours a WEEK) just to talk to you about something that is: 1) Offtopic. 2) I don't have knowledge in. 3) Not interested in hearing about.
<3> there are 200 people here and you're pestering him with highlights
<2> hahah
<0> Hope that answers you.
<2> i see you here active more than 2 hours per work
<2> in fact its more like at least 20hours per week
<2> so that argument is bogus
<3> my god man
<0> flaccid: If I am here does NOT mean that I am not working
<3> you fail the internet
<0> indeed
<2> i work a lot too. difference is i don't use it as an excuse
<2> i said active. not here.
<4> I hate internet tough guys.
<2> as you in chat for more than 2 hours a week
<3> flaccid, I haven't been here wrong but I've never seen you help anyone
<0> I can be active and work as well, considering I use my computer while working.
<2> tpope: whats your point?
<3> and I may be mixing him up with the 8 other z-people but he's helping all the time
<0> flaccid: that you come here only to be annoying. And already got banned TWICE.
<3> why do you have this perverse sense of entitlement
<2> Zoffix: right so that means that your freetime is irrelevant if you can do it when you are working.
<4> "It is my duty to call all of the NOT cool things, as held up to my standards, gay, retarded, and lol ****ing waste of my time."
<3> you should be grovelling
<0> flaccid: no
<2> so that kind of kills the first argument you posed entirely
<3> if Zoffix says "go **** yourself" you say "how hard"
<0> haha
<3> those with the knowledge make the rules
<2> tpope: you might be like that, but i'm not you
<3> I don't nag him so I'm not too worried
<2> i prefer democracy, tpope. afterall that is part of what freenode is about......
<3> where does it say that?
<0> flaccid: when I am working I can spend some time helping people. But definitely not on talking with you about some JS WYSIWFU
<3> am I just arguing with a troll?
<3> nobody could be this dense
<2> Zoffix: i don't see what your freetime has to do with netiquette. lack for free time is no exuse for lack of netiquette.
<1> tpope: dont insult trolls
<3> yes it is
<3> see rule 11
<0> Aye :) First time he got banned because he was arguing with something like " C'MON show me where the specs say that your forms should be accessible with CSS disabled" :D
<3> I remember that
<2> Zoffix: and no evidence was provided. so i won!
<3> that's terrible netiquette
<3> you stormed out in a fit
<2> thats the good part ...
<3> people had links and you never read them
<2> but hey if you can provide evidence now... then i'm all ears.
<0> flaccid: you won some quite time.
<0> ]css @ flaccid
<5> flaccid, CSS Specs: http://w3.org/Style/CSS/
<0> flaccid: go read some
<0> ]stupid web @ flaccid
<5> flaccid, Mistakes A LOT of people make. Don't be one of them: http://www.456bereastreet.com/lab/web_development_mistakes/
<0> flaccid: and please stop /msg me if you don't want this 20 minute +q to turn into 1 week +b
<6> mmm ul.cl*** list-style-type: disc; shouldn't works?
<0> I think so. Does the page validate?
<6> no entity problems
<0> link
<6> http://www.laquarra.it/it/cartina.php
<0> @
<5> (www.laquarra....) HTML: E: ( http://tinyurl.com/2yvyuf ) CSS: Network Error ( http://tinyurl.com/2u7p2e ) DOCTYPE: XHTML 1.0 Strict + url (MIME: text/html, text/html; charset=UTF-8)
<6> reference to entity "key" for which no system identifier could be generated. .google.com/maps?file=api&v=2&key=ABQ this is the google maps api
<6> but dunno about the css rule
<3> I was kind of hoping he'd do that actually
<6> the rule is at bottom of the css...specifity issues? mmm
<3> he's msging me too
<0> LOL
<3> he tried to paste the lorem ipsum text
<0> He is spamming "Lorem Ipsum" text to me :D haha, how original
<3> but accidently pasted a description of the lorem ipsum text
<6> how many paragraphs?
<1> me too
<3> how do you mess up lorum ipsum?
<6> :)
<0> supergreg: he is spamming your /msg too?
<1> yep
<6> mah
<3> just /ignore
<3> you know he's working up a sweat with all this switching and pasting
<1> but as I told him: thanks for flaming right away, instead of trying to act factual and grown up, makes the decision of /ignore that much easier. goodbye.
<1> netiquette-darwinised
<0> Well, I just did /msg nalioth Hi, I just banned a troll from #css and now he is flooding with /msg me and two more users. Take some action if you want. I did /ignore already. He is: [flaccid] (n=flaccid@ppp105-11.static.internode.on.net) : flaccid
<3> he has ops in ##opera
<0> Who?
<3> flaccid
<0> heh
<3> who would allow that?
<6> mah gnite
<0> Well, there are only 12 users :) not a big surprise :)
<3> I see, it's a channel of 12
<1> Zoffix: they probably have a ****fox designer course there
<0> :'( me cries
<1> hehe
<1> actually the guy behind Opera seems very concerned about standards
<0> Woohoo :) My paste mover works now :D
<0> Well, yeah, I've heard some guy from W3C is one of Opera devs or something
<7> any oink memebers in here?
<1> I read his master thesis, it was about css, long time ago, but he wrote that thesis while attending the Uni I'm currently at
<0> cool :)
<1> and proceeded to join Opera and really get them going
<8> hi Zoff
<0> hi
<8> how's things
<0> Alright
<8> just came back from skermish
<0> What's that?
<8> paintball
<8> we call it skermish in AU
<8> u played before/
<0> No, never :/ I want to though.
<8> are you from the US Zoff?
<0> .ca
<8> ahh
<8> it's big over there i hear
<8> we get it on TV, like you guys playing touranments
<0> ]]http rfc header 302
<5> http://www.w3.org/Protocols/rfc2616/rfc2616-sec10.html ( http://tinyurl.com/3au3ke )
<0> oops... wrong chan :]
<8> tinyurl is a great idea
<0> yeah
<0> hm... either my bot is getting different headers or FF doesn't follow the specs or I am missing something: from RFC "If the 302 status code is received in response to a request other than GET or HEAD, the user agent MUST NOT automatically redirect the request unless it can be confirmed by the user, since this might change the conditions under which the request was issued."
<0> Ahhh, section 10.3.3 on http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc2616.html explains why :} stupid browsers
<0> I remember when I was ~15 I downloaded all of the RFCs and I wanted to read them all :) Then I didn't have Internet for about a year, and I think I got to RFC 80 or so :) The first one are really cool :) How the Internet came around and everything :D
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