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<0> oh nevermind
<0> tables for emnu
<0> menu* even
<0> `listamatic @ enzo
<1> enzo, listamatic: http://css.maxdesign.com.au/listamatic/
<2> yes, already seen that
<0> well use it :)
<2> i've found in listamatic a menu horizontaly on one line
<2> my menu is working on FF, and also on IE (but there with a little javascript to emulate the li:hover)
<0> naturally
<2> so i should use div instead of table, and it will rocks ?
<2> in fact i know div is better, but i never find the way to use them ...
<3> You should not use divs instead of tables. You should use css instead of tables and use divs as and when appropriate.
<0> enzo: like for headers, use h1, h2, etc.
<0> for paragraphs of text, use p
<0> lists, use ul



<2> i want to position some string and logo and menu in the top of my page as you can see there: http://www.source-rh.com/~despatis/ex.html DRMacIver what should i use?
<0> etc. etc.
<0> logo = h1
<2> i understand
<0> menu = ul
<2> yes but i have a menu on the right side of a logo
<2> how can i do ?
<0> you can float one of them
<2> i can use h1 for the logo and i actually already use <ul> for menu
<0> or use absolute positioning, if it's convenient
<0> `float tutorial @ enzo
<1> enzo, float tutorial: http://css.maxdesign.com.au/floatutorial/ , http://phrogz.net/css/understandingfloats.html
<2> i understand how i can make start something from the left or the right of a container
<2> but how can i make start something from the left bottom of a container?
<0> position: relative; (or absolute or fixed) on parent, position: absolute; bottom: 0; left: 0; on child
<4> can anyone suggest a fix for getting li's to display block when inside a container, like having an <a> as block would ----> we have a css menu, and it looked good and displayed block when we set <a>'s in the menu cl*** to display block, but we wanted to wrap the <a>'s with <li>'s so that it was more semantically correct -- but now the 'block' only wraps the text, not to the edges of the container
<0> mmm
<0> if you float: left; the li's, they should be fairly well ignored
<4> mmmmm -- we got it -- apparently someone decided to include another style sheet when editing this and had some over riding setting :-\ sigh
<5> IE is ignoring my div heights =/
<0> johnm1019: mmmm, webmastering by committee :p
<5> photoshop artists making homepage mockups are the devil!
<0> heheh
<6> I have a problem with a single page on my site - http://www.timw.com/systems/p***word-generator/... in IE6, the content is moved down, but on no other page... i cant seem to work out what's causing it. any help please?
<4> reisio, hahah you have no idea :(
<5> I'm trying to get a column to stretch all the way down. Do you guys have a good page bookmarked on RTFS?
<0> `fullheight
<1> fullheight: http://phrogz.net/CSS/valign_in_body/block.html , www.alistapart.com/articles/fauxcolumns/
<0> ignore the alistapart one, it's retarded
<5> thanks reisio!
<5> "It makes IE5Mac cry." :(
<0> ah, well what doesn't :p
<0> silly to support that one
<5> reisio: specs... :/
<5> but as long as it doesn't look completely crap on it
<7> hi
<0> 'lo flosch
<5> reisio: height: 100% isn't working, nor is min-height: 100%
<0> link?
<5> have to upload, gimme a min
<5> or rather... it's confidental so I really shouldn't =/
<5> I can post snippets though
<0> okay
<0> well
<0> one way is ...
<0> let's say you have a 'div' wrapper
<0> you'd do: html, body, div { height: 100%; } div { display: table; }
<0> more wrappers you have, the more complex it gets
<5> I have: body, div, div { height: 100%; } *several divs*
<5> display: table, should I use that or was it an example?
<0> if it's not too weird, you can do: html, body, div1, div2, div3, ..., lastcontainerdiv { height: 100%; } lastcontainerdiv { display: table; }
<0> that was a usable example
<5> put the display: table changed the column so a each child div gets as small as it can (letting some background from the parent shine through). But it didn't extend the column
<0> k, your code is probably too messy just to drop that in :p
<5> nooes
<2> how can i align something horizontaly (or verticaly) in a container ?
<0> `center @ enzo
<1> enzo, center: http://dorward.me.uk/www/centre/
<0> `deadcentre @ enzo
<1> enzo, deadcentre: http://www.wpdfd.com/editorial/thebox/deadcentre4.html
<8> hey



<8> i got a small problem
<8> anyone know why my CSS code breaks on opra?
<0> yes
<0> either Opera is just breaking it, as it likes to do, or your code is goofy
<9> or reisio just cant help you
<9> as usual
<8> lol'
<0> Socio: hrmm?
<0> `secret
<1> secret: No URL = no help. We are not telepaths, and can't determine the problem (let alone the solution) without playing with the troublesome page. So, give URL, or leave the channel and call 1-900-PSYCHIC. Oh, and good luck. You'll need it.
<2> i've done some trick to change the layout with div, all now work under FF and IE, could you have a look to see this: http://www.source-rh.com/~despatis/ex_test.html
<2> (the first big block), the second uses table, gonna delete it
<2> reisio: maybe you could have a look to the <div and so one, to see if it seems good coding
<0> sure
<5> reisio: I'm playing with the CSS of this site: http://alistapart.com/d/holygrail/example_1.html but can't get the left column to stretch down to the footer
<0> Seriema: html, body, #container, #left { height: 100%; } #left { display: table; }
<0> textbook
<0> wait, not textbook :p
<5> ...
<5> tried it, nuttin :P
<4> I'm having issues getting textboxes of maxlength 1 to work properly in firefox, has anyone found a fix for this?
<0> just html, body, #container, #left { height: 100%; } is enough for the initial look
<5> the webdeveloper toolbar for FF is handy sometimes heh
<0> but the way that layout is, it's not going to work with the display: table;
<0> johnm1019: it's allowing more than one char of input?
<5> well #left { height: 100%; } isn't working
<5> not in FF 1.0 at least
<0> 1.0?
<0> upgrade you silly head
<5> specs dude, specs
<5> so full height won't work in FF1.0? or IE5.5?
<0> specs?
<0> what does that mean?
<0> ;support display: table;
<10> reisio: table { IE 6: N | IE 7: N | Firefox 1.5: Y | Opera 8.5: Y } http://www.webdevout.net/browser_support_css.php#support-css2propsbasic-display
<0> oh yeah
<5> requisites? must do's?
<0> should work fine down to 5
<5> boss told me :P
<0> oh
<0> heh, k
<0> you can use min-height & height
<5> yeah, otherwise I'd go fully CSS 2.1 and just put a big "screw you" when browsers that doesn't support all my wanted features droppes by
<5> reisio: i've been trying that and no help
<2> reisio: have you seen my code ?
<0> probably...
<5> .. "and doesn't work", not "no help" heh
<4> reisio, no, thats what its supposed to do -- it essentially wont let you edit the value of the field -- its very odd -- try just crafting a simple page and see what happens
<11> hi
<11> i got some problems porting my existing design to tableless xhtml/css ... the proble is: i got a horizontal menu at the top of the page consisting of images beeing besides each other with no space between them
<11> how do i realize that?
<11> i already got a div thats able to write text in the correct 'line'
<0> `listamatic @ Nebukadneza
<1> Nebukadneza, listamatic: http://css.maxdesign.com.au/listamatic/
<2> grr, i've testes many things, i can't make the footer (at the bottom) be aligned in center: http://www.source-rh.com/~despatis/ex_test.html
<11> reisio: i'm reading :P
<12> hello! is it possible with css and html to put a border around a text input that consists of images?
<4> Gogo|tty, for what, rounded corners or something?
<12> well it should be a dotted line around the input, but i can not use 'dotted' as border style, it is an image with a pixel
<12> johnm1019: so it should be a 3x3 pixel image repeating around the input field
<12> as a border
<12> i have not found any tutorial on it, maybe because the search terms are very popular ('input text css border image')
<12> i hope this is possible with css, i don't really want to put spans and divs around it
<4> its not very elegant, but you could make a div the width and height of the box -- make the backround the image and then z-index the input so it sits on top of all but the outer perimeter of background
<4> text-align center it
<13> Anyone has example of 'registration' forms with appearing checkmark or x mark upon entering right/wrong content inside the form field?
<4> Aleksey, you'll need javascript for that
<13> I know.. I want an example if possible
<4> well you could set the onchange of a text field to be a javascript function which element.getElementByID and then checks contents
<13> I know how this works, I just want to see a nice example of it.
<2> Gogo|tty: maybe this page will help you : http://www.456bereastreet.com/archive/200506/customising_custom_corners_and_borders/
<2> just an image and pure css (no js) to make beautiful tab
<12> enzo: hm, it should look like this:
<12> http://marlen.akbild.ac.at:8080/plone02/dev/suche_prev.png/image_view_fullscreen


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